Offseason moves?

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  1. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    <div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^^huh?...the only reason I'd say Blake > Bibby is for financial reasons....</div>

    I think Blake is a better point guard than Bibby. Blake is better than MOST NBA point guards. If you take the meaning of a point guard like.... distributing the ball first and scoring 2nd; team involvement first. But then again, 3rd scorer.... Bibby would be better. I think we have enough scorers, just a TRUE TRUE TRUE point guard will fix our problems. Maybe add another scorer - low post presence. I love the idea of Antonio McDyess coming here. I mean, Blake is a great shooter himself, I dont know the stats.. he might have a better FG% than Bibby for all i know.
     
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    Pakman JBB ITS ON ME!!!

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    <div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^^huh?...the only reason I'd say Blake > Bibby is for financial reasons....</div>

    I think Blake is a better point guard than Bibby. Blake is better than MOST NBA point guards. If you take the meaning of a point guard like.... distributing the ball first and scoring 2nd; team involvement first. But then again, 3rd scorer.... Bibby would be better. I think we have enough scorers, just a TRUE TRUE TRUE point guard will fix our problems. Maybe add another scorer - low post presence. I love the idea of Antonio McDyess coming here. I mean, Blake is a great shooter himself, I dont know the stats.. he might have a better FG% than Bibby for all i know.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">We need a creator. I'd hope that we can talk Bonzi to come back under new coaching. Then maybe make some much needed trades. I'm not sure if we'll get a contributor in the draft, but a athletic PF/C would be nice. Even though Head had a terrible playoffs, I'd love to have him back. He's going to be a bigtime player in this league! Our biggest challenge is going to find a coach that can spread the offense out. I feel like Yao & Tmac had to carry too much of the burden under JVG. I watch other teams and everybody on the court scores[​IMG] Let's pray that we can have either a offensive minded coach like Adelman, or a diverse coach like Larry Brown. This offseason will be a big one!</div>

    Theres no way Bonzi is staying. The whole reason he's acting the way he is, is because he thinks hes not getting the money he deserves. More likely hes going to try to find more money elsewhere.
     
  4. igotask8board

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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Gerald Wallace is a BEAST! The good part about it is I think everybody in the league would want to come here after seeing how close we are to greatness.


    The ONLY person I'd arrange a deal for involving Tmac is KG. Anybody else is either off limits or not as good. If we can snag up Rashard that also be GREAT. He's a PERFECT fit beside Tmac & Yao. But again, Battier is too a valuable. Maybe we can work around trading him


    Yep..I'm used to it by now lol. Webber's better than Howard and Hayes, with more playoff experience.


    Francis? NEVER. How about Sam Cassell?</div>

    I always think about this trade when I dream of him coming to Houston. KG + Mike James for:

    Rafer
    Battier
    Howard (2 years)
    <font color=""gray"">Sura (expiring contract + cheap buyout)</font>
    <font color=""gray"">Bonzi (opts out anyways)</font>
    Future first

    Possibly Head, they need a 3 pt shooter desperately, but I really do want to hang on to him...KG is KG though, so I would do it in a heartbeat. Salary wise, it would work. 3/4 players for 2.

    Yao/Deke/T-Sak
    KG/Hayes/Novak
    T-Mac/(MLE-Matt Carrol)/Novak
    Snyder/(1st rounder-Rudy Fernandez)/(LLE-Francis)
    Mike Jameschise/V-Span/Lucas

    Carlisle to coach.
    OK I'll stop dreaming now, this is getting way too iffy. I don't think anyone would want 3 max contracts on this team, but T-Mac seems like he wants a lesser role on this team.

    Cassell would be nice. Who would you trade for him?
    <div class="quote_poster">Pakman Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think Blake is a better point guard than Bibby. Blake is better than MOST NBA point guards. If you take the meaning of a point guard like.... distributing the ball first and scoring 2nd; team involvement first. But then again, 3rd scorer.... Bibby would be better. I think we have enough scorers, just a TRUE TRUE TRUE point guard will fix our problems. Maybe add another scorer - low post presence. I love the idea of Antonio McDyess coming here. I mean, Blake is a great shooter himself, I dont know the stats.. he might have a better FG% than Bibby for all i know.</div>

    Blake>Bibby? Come on your joking. Alston is a better PG than Blake. Blake's TS% is more likely lower than Rafer's. Don't be fooled by the playoffs. Sometimes he gets hot and racks up steals, he doesn't turn the ball over much for a PG, but that's all he's good for. He bricks a lot of open jumpers.

    Edit: This offseason should be interesting to say the least.
     
  5. bbwSwish

    bbwSwish Harder. Better. Faster. Stronger.

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    I don't think you can argue who is better, Blake or Bibby. It all depends on the type of point guard you want, a scorer or distributor. Steve Blake does an excellent job at getting his teammates involved. He is a good passer and he flourished in Denver because he had scoring options all around him. Mike Bibby is a scorer who can shoot from anywhere on the court. With that said, Bibby will cost you guys a lot more than Blake will. I feel Steve Blake fits into this offense better than Bibby does. Since McGrady and Yao already carry the scoring load, Blake would be the distributor and role player that could help put you guys over the top. With Bibby, there would be too many scorers and only one ball. That's just my opinion though.
     
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    Pakman JBB ITS ON ME!!!

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    <div class="quote_poster">Swish Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> I feel Steve Blake fits into this offense better than Bibby does. Since McGrady and Yao already carry the scoring load, Blake would be the distributor and role player that could help put you guys over the top. With Bibby, there would be too many scorers and only one ball. That's just my opinion though.</div>

    Thats what I was thinking too.
     
  7. ROCK4LIFE

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    <div class="quote_poster">Swish Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think you can argue who is better, Blake or Bibby. It all depends on the type of point guard you want, a scorer or distributor. Steve Blake does an excellent job at getting his teammates involved. He is a good passer and he flourished in Denver because he had scoring options all around him. Mike Bibby is a scorer who can shoot from anywhere on the court. With that said, Bibby will cost you guys a lot more than Blake will. I feel Steve Blake fits into this offense better than Bibby does. Since McGrady and Yao already carry the scoring load, Blake would be the distributor and role player that could help put you guys over the top. With Bibby, there would be too many scorers and only one ball. That's just my opinion though.</div>
    Steve Blake is a solid point. But in terms of what we need, we gotta take Bibby hands down. If you take ALL those open jumpers Skip missed in the playoffs and give them to Mike Bibby, we'd of won that series in 6 games. Bibby's ability to create will open up the offense 10x more. He's got the type of fearless attitude this team needs. If we gotta spend big bucks to get Bibby I say DO IT. We can't afford another "project" with "potential", we gotta get some established players with confidence, experience & leadership. Bibby hands down
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">igotask8board Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I always think about this trade when I dream of him coming to Houston. KG + Mike James for:

    Rafer
    Battier
    Howard (2 years)
    <font color=""gray"">Sura (expiring contract + cheap buyout)</font>
    <font color=""gray"">Bonzi (opts out anyways)</font>
    Future first

    Possibly Head, they need a 3 pt shooter desperately, but I really do want to hang on to him...KG is KG though, so I would do it in a heartbeat. Salary wise, it would work. 3/4 players for 2.</div>
    EEEEEEEH....If we trade Battier, we'll have to get another player similiar (along with KG). He's like the glue to this team and trading him might be too risky. Besides Minnesota would be CRAZY to trade KG and not get another superstar in return. Can anybody tell me how much salary we'll have to spend this offseason?

    <div class="quote_poster">igotask8board Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yao/Deke/T-Sak
    KG/Hayes/Novak
    T-Mac/(MLE-Matt Carrol)/Novak
    Snyder/(1st rounder-Rudy Fernandez)/(LLE-Francis)
    Mike Jameschise/V-Span/Lucas

    Carlisle to coach.
    OK I'll stop dreaming now, this is getting way too iffy. I don't think anyone would want 3 max contracts on this team, but T-Mac seems like he wants a lesser role on this team.</div>
    I like Mike James, but I still don't think he's capable of running a team. He's best suited coming off the bench for energy. Possible players I'd think could help us are:

    Mark Blount
    Mike Bibby
    Kelvin Cato (Yes I said it. He's the perfect replacement if Deke retires)
    Zack Randolph
    Cuttino Mobley
    Corey Maggette
    Mark Jackson (not the commentator[​IMG] )
    Shareef Abdul Rahim
    Grant Hill

    This is just a short list. I don't know these players availabitity, but I think we do some manuevering and maybe snatch one of these guys up.

    <div class="quote_poster">igotask8board Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Cassell would be nice. Who would you trade for him? </div>
    I think Sammy should finish his career in Houston. It's only right for the fans, city & organization. Plus he's good for about 20-25minutes a game, and especially good when playoff time comes around. He's also a good fit.

    <div class="quote_poster">igotask8board Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Blake>Bibby? Come on your joking. Alston is a better PG than Blake. Blake's TS% is more likely lower than Rafer's. Don't be fooled by the playoffs. Sometimes he gets hot and racks up steals, he doesn't turn the ball over much for a PG, but that's all he's good for. He bricks a lot of open jumpers.</div>
    LOL....I agree. It really isn't a comparison. Bibby can bring some much needed toughness to our team.
    <div class="quote_poster">igotask8board Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Edit: This offseason should be interesting to say the least.</div>
    We'll have to take some risk. Morey is gonna have his hands full. If we take the safe approach, we'll get the same mediocore results. The organization is gonna have to make some big decisions
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Swish Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Since McGrady and Yao already carry the scoring load, Blake would be the distributor and role player that could help put you guys over the top. With Bibby, there would be too many scorers and only one ball. That's just my opinion though.</div>

    Yao and Tmac carry the scoring load? Yes, they are the 2nd highest scoring duo in the NBA (behind AI and Anthony) but Rockets need all the offense they cant get. We cant depend on 2 guys all the time. We at least need a consistent shooter who can make teams pay when Yao is doubled. I seriously dont know why Tmac and Yao dont play the inside outside game.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">EEEEEEEH....If we trade Battier, we'll have to get another player similiar (along with KG). He's like the glue to this team and trading him might be too risky. Besides Minnesota would be CRAZY to trade KG and not get another superstar in return. Can anybody tell me how much salary we'll have to spend this offseason?


    I like Mike James, but I still don't think he's capable of running a team. He's best suited coming off the bench for energy. Possible players I'd think could help us are:

    Mark Blount
    Mike Bibby
    Kelvin Cato (Yes I said it. He's the perfect replacement if Deke retires)
    Zack Randolph
    Cuttino Mobley
    Corey Maggette
    Mark Jackson (not the commentator[​IMG] )
    Shareef Abdul Rahim
    Grant Hill

    This is just a short list. I don't know these players availabitity, but I think we do some manuevering and maybe snatch one of these guys up.


    I think Sammy should finish his career in Houston. It's only right for the fans, city & organization. Plus he's good for about 20-25minutes a game, and especially good when playoff time comes around. He's also a good fit.


    LOL....I agree. It really isn't a comparison. Bibby can bring some much needed toughness to our team.

    We'll have to take some risk. Morey is gonna have his hands full. If we take the safe approach, we'll get the same mediocore results. The organization is gonna have to make some big decisions</div>

    Battier is a glue guy, but we're not really a great defensive team. Our interior defense was too slow to recover, and was greatly exposed by Boozer and the other Utah cutters.

    KG is a one man wrecking crew on D. Only reason Minny would do it is if KG wanted out, and they wanted to rebuild. Rafer would back up Foye, and they would still save around 10-15 million in salaries. They don't want James, and they have shown interest in J-Ho. I'm going to leave this alone, because I know for damn sure it's never gonna happen.

    Don't quote me, but last I heard, we had at least the full MLE and maybe the LLE. Does anyone know for sure?

    Mark Blount
    Mike Bibby
    Kelvin Cato (Yes I said it. He's the perfect replacement if Deke retires)
    Zack Randolph
    Cuttino Mobley
    Corey Maggette
    Grant Hill


    I agree with all of those guys, especially Blount, Bibby, Hill, and Mobley. Cassell would be nice addition next season, but do you really think he will have enough juice for another season in 08-09?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">igotask8board Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Battier is a glue guy, but we're not really a great defensive team. Our interior defense was too slow to recover, and was greatly exposed by Boozer and the other Utah cutters.

    KG is a one man wrecking crew on D. Only reason Minny would do it is if KG wanted out, and they wanted to rebuild. Rafer would back up Foye, and they would still save around 10-15 million in salaries. They don't want James, and they have shown interest in J-Ho. I'm going to leave this alone, because I know for damn sure it's never gonna happen.

    Don't quote me, but last I heard, we had at least the full MLE and maybe the LLE. Does anyone know for sure?

    Mark Blount
    Mike Bibby
    Kelvin Cato (Yes I said it. He's the perfect replacement if Deke retires)
    Zack Randolph
    Cuttino Mobley
    Corey Maggette
    Grant Hill


    I agree with all of those guys, especially Blount, Bibby, Hill, and Mobley. Cassell would be nice addition next season, but do you really think he will have enough juice for another season in 08-09?</div>
    I think Cassell will have enough. His minutes will be managed during the regular season and I'm sure he'll be energized comin back to Houston. I also like Ricky Davis. He's one of those under the radar guys who can make a impact.
     
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    Antonio McDyess -would be the starter, Has An OPTION this year
    Mikki Moore- Rockets need a guy to Take TMac's pass and dunk over sombody
    Marc Jackson - same type but major upgrade over Juwan.

    These guys are good wings available
    Rashard Lewis
    Morris Peterson
    Desmond Mason

    If all those bigs come out in the draft some of the better ball handlers will drop.
     

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