Pierce To LA?

"The presumed targets are Kevin Garnett (even more minutes than Kobe) and Jermaine O'Neal. Either would likely cost the Lakers their young center, Andrew Bynum, and neither would elevate the Lakers to the top tier in the West. What about Paul Pierce? Would Danny Ainge do a deal in which he could get Lamar Odom, Bynum, and a re-signed Luke Walton and send Pierce and Telfair to the Lakers?"

Its a good read I think this trade would not benefit the Lakers because the Lakers would still not have a post presence but Pierce would be a great addition to the team, but he is injury prone and isnt Paul Pierce from LA.

Link: http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/ar...evement/?page=4

 

That team would be much better then they are now with Pierce. But wheres the Post presence going to come from? Are they gonna ask Phil Jackson to suit up? They'd be a much better team but I don't know about Contenders. Go for KG...

 

Kobe and KG = 100% contenders

LOL Pierce is NOT worth Odom, bynum and walton (re signed)... With those 3 in a package i think any team would be crazy not to even consider it and we could get:

JO AND Danny Granger
or
Pau AND Mike Miller (but he needs the ball to be good though so he wont help) or Warrick
or
Kidd AND Jefferson

But i dont think (and i dont want) the lakers will trade all 3 of them

Pierce and Telfair would be one of the worst packages we could get

 

Meh, but after I read the name "Telfair" I hope the trade never exists

 

<div class="quote_poster">YourNewChef Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Meh, but after I read the name "Telfair" I hope the trade never exists</div>

I agree..

 

um, unless we get their 1st round pick as well, there is no way we would trade Odom AND Bynum AND Walton for Pierce and Telfair ... that's not even funny..

 

Since when did Andrew Bynum become so valuable? Believe me, he and Odom aren't pulling in Gasol and Miller any time soon.

If the Lakers want to pull in a big-name superstar, they'll have to give up Kobe in the process.

Pierce and Telfair for Bynum and Odom? The Lakers should be so lucky...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Since when did Andrew Bynum become so valuable? Believe me, he and Odom aren't pulling in Gasol and Miller any time soon.

If the Lakers want to pull in a big-name superstar, they'll have to give up Kobe in the process.

Pierce and Telfair for Bynum and Odom? The Lakers should be so lucky...</div>

you've got to be kidding me, that or you haven't been paying attention to the Lakers. Bynum is very valuable at the moment because of his perceived upside. Mind you Jason Kidd was offered for Bynum and fillers ...

now if you use that as a bench mark for Bynum's value, you seriously think we'd be "lucky" to land Pierce if we throw in Odom as well? That's absolutely ridiculous .. Odom + Kidd (Bynum) + Walton > Piece + Telfair every day of the week

 

<div class="quote_poster">notMuchgame Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">you've got to be kidding me, that or you haven't been paying attention to the Lakers. Bynum is very valuable at the moment because of his perceived upside. Mind you Jason Kidd was offered for Bynum and fillers ...

now if you use that as a bench mark for Bynum's value, you seriously think we'd be "lucky" to land Pierce if we throw in Odom as well? That's absolutely ridiculous .. Odom + Kidd (Bynum) + Walton > Piece + Telfair every day of the week</div>

Kidd was offered for Bynum and fillers because at the time the Nets were on the downswing, looking like their season was over. With Carter opting out of his deal, Krstic being pretty severely injured, and Kidd being 34 years old, that trade would make perfect sense from a rebuilding point of view.

Pierce isn't 34 though; the Celtics already have a core of young prospects that have just as much potential if not more than Bynum.

 

I forget, but was Telfair waived from the Celtics?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Kidd was offered for Bynum and fillers because at the time the Nets were on the downswing, looking like their season was over. </div>

Regardless of the reason they offered Kidd, it wasn't the Nets that turned it down, it was the Lakers. So that sets the benchmark for Bynum's value.. ie Jason Kidd isn't enough for Bynum.


<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">Pierce isn't 34 though; the Celtics already have a core of young prospects that have just as much potential if not more than Bynum.</div>

do they have a center prospect? more potiential than a 7 footer? that's quite different than a wing guard. and please dont tell me PF Al Jefferson is their center prospect because by almost all counts, he played out of position last year .....

now lets say the Celtics get the #2 pick as their lottery position suggests ... now who do you think they're going to pick? Now consider what position he would fill? Now what position do they have an abundance of? Lets count - Sczerbiak, Pierce, Allen, Green, Gomes, and oh yeah, that kid they'd take with the #2 pick.

This article was written by a Boston guy that suggests a trade that fits with Boston, but he didn't even bother to think how it doesn't fit the Lakers in any way at all. Telfair? why would the Lakers want telfair ??? Pierce comes home to LA, but we already have a scorer on the wing, that's not exactly what kept us from being a better team.


btw, why do u hate Bynum so much. I remember you kept suggesting Bynum was no more than 6'9'' , and that his height was fabricated by the Lakers ... obviously there must be some dislike for the guy on your part

 

<div class="quote_poster">notMuchgame Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Regardless of the reason they offered Kidd, it wasn't the Nets that turned it down, it was the Lakers. So that sets the benchmark for Bynum's value.. ie Jason Kidd isn't enough for Bynum.</div>

Yeah, but as great as Kidd is now and as great as his legacy is, his trade value isn't that high at all right now. For example, I'm sure Milwaukee wouldn't give up Bogut for him at this point. I'm as big of a Kidd fan as anyone on these boards, but how many more years do you think he has in him tops? Five at the very most? Two or three most likely? That's not worth giving up a 19-year old prospect for.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">do they have a center prospect? that's quite different than a wing guard. and please dont tell me PF Al Jefferson is their center prospect because by almost all counts, he played out of position last year ..... </div>

Well, I actually do think Jefferson is okay anchoring the Celtics in the middle. He's 6'10, 260 lbs., played center in high school, played a little center when he first entered the league, and then logged the majority of his minutes there this season. With all that time spent as a center, I don't see why you shouldn't consider him one.

And even if you don't, how about Kendrick Perkins? He compliments Jefferson very well on the low block with his physical, power-based style of play. He's only 22-years old at the moment and is working with his trainers to lose weight, the only thing that's really holding him back from being a bigger impact player right now.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">now lets say the Celtics get the #2 pick as their lottery position suggests ... now who do you think they're going to pick? Now consider what position he would fill? Now what position do they have an abundance of? Lets count - Sczerbiak, Pierce, Allen, Green, Gomes, and oh yeah, that kid they'd take with the #2 pick.

This article was written by a Boston guy that suggests a trade that fits with Boston, but he didn't even bother to think how it doesn't fit the Lakers in any way at all. Telfair? why would the Lakers want telfair ??? Pierce comes home to LA, but we already have a scorer on the wing, that's not exactly what kept us from being a better team.</div>

The Celtics have an abundance of young talent all around. That's my point. Why do they need to invest in yet another blue chip prospect when they already have Jefferson, Perkins, Allen, Green, Gomes, and soon-to-be Oden/Durant?

Pierce would be a hell of an addition for the Lakers simply from the standpoint that he'll take pressure off of Kobe Bryant. The Lakers haven't had two legitimate scoring threats since Shaq was traded, and Pierce will afford them just that. Kobe's shown that he's just as good of a distributer and playmaker as he is a scorer, but he hasn't always had the type of teammates he could count on to finish when he defers to them; Pierce can do that.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">btw, why do u hate Bynum so much. I remember you kept suggesting Bynum was no more than 6'9'' , and that his height was fabricated by the Lakers ... obviously there must be some dislike for the guy on your part</div>

If you show me that quote, I'll try to defend it as best as I can, but I'm not sure what the context was. Was it from the predraft camp measurements?

And I don't have a grudge against Bynum, but I do think his worth is way overrated. There are plenty of young big men prospects with the same or greater talent level that don't get involved in the same trade rumors in the media simply because they're from smaller market towns (*cough* Bogut *cough*).

Why would anyone in their right mind trade Pau Gasol for someone who, five or six years down the road from now when his contract has since run up, has the potential to develop into a player somewhere near the talent level of Gasol? Why go down such a circular path to get a player who you essentially already have?

None of these off-the-wall trade rumors ever have credibility. They're always some oft ignored journalist's attempt to generate some sort of buzz around his column by bringing up a topic he knows that a lot of people will be interested in. At the end of the day though, KG is still in Minnesota after all these years, Pierce is still in Boston, Kidd is still in New Jersey, etc.

 

NO WAY! Pierce is only great in the 4th quarter and we wouldn't need him then because guess what? That's when Kobe does best also! Even besides that, I wouldn't think of sending Odom, Walton, and Bynum for that package and I am a huge Paul Pierce fan and would love to see him back in LA. I say we still go for KG or JO. Oh and am I missing something here because I thought Telfair was released?

 

well if pierce can stay healthy then yea it might work

 

<div class="quote_poster">Bacon Smeller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">well if pierce can stay healthy then yea it might work</div>

Pierce isn't the piece we need, we need size or a good PG to help Kobe.

 

did you guys know that KG grew up as a huge laker fan, that his cousin is shammond williams, his good friend is maurice evens and he owns a house in LA. I hope this is enough to get him and we dont have to trade anyone and the wolves just give him to us (wouldnt that be cool if KG just said trade me to LA no matter the cost and all we had to do was trade kwame and radman to make up salary, man i wish that would happen).

 

<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Since when did Andrew Bynum become so valuable? Believe me, he and Odom aren't pulling in Gasol and Miller any time soon.

If the Lakers want to pull in a big-name superstar, they'll have to give up Kobe in the process.

Pierce and Telfair for Bynum and Odom? The Lakers should be so lucky...</div>

Of course the Grizz would accept it... its better to get someone than lose mike miller for nothing (i believe he is interested in moving)

 

Lets be honest Fans. PP is a superior player than odem. So if you trade Odem for PP there has got to be some money involved. or Bynum

Kobe plus PP would be spectacular IMO. Everyone talks about post play Like only bigmen can dominate the post. Let me tell you this if you guys had PP plus KObe you would dominate the post. Both Kobe and Paul have great post Games and they are both True Ballers.

Like Kobe said you guys Have to do something NOW. Why waste Kobe in his Prime ( arguably one of the top 3 SG's to ever bounce a ball) for some big question mark. Bynum may be end up being a good player but he will never come close to being the player that Kobe is.

Personally I would love to see those guys play together. Its rare you get to of the leagues beat ballers on 1 team in their prime.

 

<div class="quote_poster">AKIRA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">did you guys know that KG grew up as a huge laker fan, that his cousin is shammond williams, his good friend is maurice evens and he owns a house in LA. I hope this is enough to get him and we dont have to trade anyone and the wolves just give him to us (wouldnt that be cool if KG just said trade me to LA no matter the cost and all we had to do was trade kwame and radman to make up salary, man i wish that would happen).</div>

KG probably wants nothing more than to be in a Laker uni. The problem is, I believe, KG is afraid to be seen as a traitor to the Wolves or got too greedy. Althought most sports writers and commentators encourage KG to leave, althought I think Garnett is still afraid to be criticized.