<div class="quote_poster">Locke Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't recall ever bringing up Damon's off the court problems. His size was my biggest concern. As for the goody-goody thing, obviously I'm not going to pass up on Artest if we gave up say, Juwan Howard. However, if we have a choice of a "goody goody" and a headcase who are pretty much even talent wise, I'll go with the "goody goody" everytime. So pretty much what you're saying is that you'd rather take on a guy with off-court problems rather than someone who doesn't have as much trouble?</div> I'm not saying niether..........I'm saying I'm taking the player who can give us a better chance to win, based on his talent level. Right now we can't afford to be safe. We have take somebody who can take us to that next level, even if he's had problems with former organizations.
Well look at Bonzi. He quit on us. We were all high on him. If we had him in the Jazz series. We would be playing SA right now, but he quit on us soo I'd rather not take chances.
<div class="quote_poster">TmacGarnett Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well look at Bonzi. He quit on us. We were all high on him. If we had him in the Jazz series. We would be playing SA right now, but he quit on us soo I'd rather not take chances.</div> He felt like he wasn't gonna get a real chance to play under JVG, in which he was right. Even if he had stayed with the team JVG wasn't gonna play him due to his decision on the 8-man rotation.
<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He felt like he wasn't gonna get a real chance to play under JVG, in which he was right. Even if he had stayed with the team JVG wasn't gonna play him due to his decision on the 8-man rotation.</div> What 8 man rotation? We were on a 7 man rotation. Dikembe doesnt really count. There was a huge reason why JVG gave Bonzi a chance at the end of the year, and that was because he really didn't want Snyder in the rotation. Anyways, Bonzi did quit on us. He knew he wasn't playing well himself, and took himself out of the game against Sacramento after 5 minutes of play. If Bonzi stayed and had played well those last 8 games, I guarantee you that he would have gotten minutes.
<div class="quote_poster">foo82 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What 8 man rotation? We were on a 7 man rotation. Dikembe doesnt really count. There was a huge reason why JVG gave Bonzi a chance at the end of the year, and that was because he really didn't want Snyder in the rotation. Anyways, Bonzi did quit on us. He knew he wasn't playing well himself, and took himself out of the game against Sacramento after 5 minutes of play. If Bonzi stayed and had played well those last 8 games, I guarantee you that he would have gotten minutes.</div> 8 damn games? That's all he got to get himself ready for the playoffs The guy was literally held off the team for MONTHS after workin his way back and gettin healthy. Even Rocket fans were wondering "where the hell is Bonzi Wells". Till this day nobody knows the real reason why JVG felt we didn't need Bonzi. Even YOU felt we didn't need Bonzi (how ironic). Urs and Durvasa's argument was that we were set in our rotation and Bonzi would've messed up the chemistry. But in the longrun, he should've been activated when healthy and not just thrown our there a few games before the playoffs. I'd be mad too
<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">8 damn games? That's all he got to get himself ready for the playoffs The guy was literally held off the team for MONTHS after workin his way back and gettin healthy. Even Rocket fans were wondering "where the hell is Bonzi Wells". Till this day nobody knows the real reason why JVG felt we didn't need Bonzi. Even YOU felt we didn't need Bonzi (how ironic). Urs and Durvasa's argument was that we were set in our rotation and Bonzi would've messed up the chemistry. But in the longrun, he should've been activated when healthy and not just thrown our there a few games before the playoffs. I'd be mad too</div> I don't know why is it so hard for you to understand. My position is quite clear. I stated above that if Bonzi played WELL those last 8 games, that means we could have used him in the playoffs. MY POSITION IS SET BASED ON PERFORMANCE. NOT SOME PREDETERMINED NOTION (quite unlike you). You seem to do quite the opposite. He could have gotten in game shape quite easily...if he had even bothered trying off the court. Everyone else seem to be fine coming off of an injury and contributing. If you can't see why JVG felt we didn't need Bonzi, after he gave Bonzi a chance...then you are blind. Anybody can see that Bonzi was playing HORRIBLY in the games that he did.
With Adelman officially announced as head coach, how about pursuing Chris Webber in the offseason. Two reasons: 1) He knows the system and excelled at it. He'd be the perfect backup when Yao needs a rest and can run the offense from the high post. 2) He gets to reunite with Juwan Howard, which will help create a unique, positive, chemistry in the locker room for this team. Hell, might aswell get Jalen Rose in the mix with the Rockets. The Michigan Fab 3 reunited. The three of them would be highly motivated playing together again and making a run at a Championship.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">With Adelman officially announced as head coach, how about pursuing Chris Webber in the offseason. Two reasons: 1) He knows the system and excelled at it. He'd be the perfect backup when Yao needs a rest and can run the offense from the high post. 2) He gets to reunite with Juwan Howard, which will help create a unique, positive, chemistry in the locker room for this team. Hell, might aswell get Jalen Rose in the mix with the Rockets. The Michigan Fab 3 reunited. The three of them would be highly motivated playing together again and making a run at a Championship.</div> There is a problem with that though. Yao is going to get a lot of minutes, so Webber isn't gonna get much time as backup. You don't want Webber and Yao on the court at the same time. That would probably be the slowest front court of all nba teams.
<div class="quote_poster">foo82 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">There is a problem with that though. Yao is going to get a lot of minutes, so Webber isn't gonna get much time as backup. You don't want Webber and Yao on the court at the same time. That would probably be the slowest front court of all nba teams.</div> Adelman got away with Divac and Webber in the same frontcourt, I don't see why he couldn't do the same with Yao and Webber.
Webber is suiting pretty well with Wallace. I like his back door passes and all. If Yao can work on his footwork and move around faster, than Webber would be useful. He'd dish to Yao and they both can be pretty effective in the paint. One thing I am worried about is Yao's quickness though.
<div class="quote_poster">foo82 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">There is a problem with that though. Yao is going to get a lot of minutes, so Webber isn't gonna get much time as backup. You don't want Webber and Yao on the court at the same time. That would probably be the slowest front court of all nba teams.</div> Are u serious? You'd rather Chuck Hayes than Webber Chris Webber would be the PERFECT fit for Yao. He's better than Chuck & Juwan with tons of experience in the postseason. His main attributes are his shot and passing. Plus he's not a bad rebounder. He may not be able to play 40mintues a night, but he can serve as the perfect player for 25-30minutes a game.
<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Are u serious? You'd rather Chuck Hayes than Webber Chris Webber would be the PERFECT fit for Yao. He's better than Chuck & Juwan with tons of experience in the postseason. His main attributes are his shot and passing. Plus he's not a bad rebounder. He may not be able to play 40mintues a night, but he can serve as the perfect player for 25-30minutes a game.</div> There you go putting words in other people's mouth. I would like you to go up and reread. Nowhere did I mention Chuck Hayes. I would much rather have an athletic PF with quickness and decent offensive capabilities. My quickness isn't necessarily referring to the offensive end, but rather the defensive end. You really want two slow guys down low? Faster teams are going to tear holes through our defense. As for Chuck Hayes offensively...who knows, he may thrive on Adelman's offensive scheme. He can't create his own shot, but he can definately finish at the basket. Those backdoor passes by Yao can be tremendously helpful to Hayes. Under JVG scheme Chuck primarily relied on offensive boards and quick passes from Tmac to score. There wasn't really any room under JVG for slashers and finishers, since Yao was always on the low post which makes it easier for defense to transition to a much inside. My pf suggestion would be to probably draft a young guy, and then drop Juwan from the Roster. We can use the extra space to then pick up a decent point guard. Maybe even pick up Marcus Williams as SG and move Tmac to the 3 and Battier to the pf position.
<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not saying niether..........I'm saying I'm taking the player who can give us a better chance to win, based on his talent level. Right now we can't afford to be safe. We have take somebody who can take us to that next level, even if he's had problems with former organizations.</div> What about Zach Randolph? He would be perfect with Adelman between our stars. Give Portland Battier and Juwan Howard for Randolph. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trad...&teams=22~22~10 Works salary wise. Yao/Deke/Tsak McDyess(MLE)/Hayes/Novak Randolph/Snyder T-Mac/Head/Wells Rafer/Span/Lucas Draft Swingman Marcus Williams or Thaddeus Young if Rudy Fernandez isn't taken by our pick.
Randolph won't survive at small forward. After all, he is 250 lbs. Defensively, without Battier we would suffer as well. He's an X-factor whom we can't afford to lose, pure and simple, unless it's an incredibly lopsided deal.
Well then, since Adelman's the new head coach, that pretty much solves our #1 concern which is the offensive system. Now on to priority #2, who do you think we can get, or should get, at number 26? Should we trade up? I personally think we should...
Why would Webber leave the Pistons? Everyone has been going on about how happy he is to be back home. Why would he leve after half a season?
<div class="quote_poster">dakeem1 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why would Webber leave the Pistons? Everyone has been going on about how happy he is to be back home. Why would he leve after half a season?</div> Do the Pistons want him back if they don't win the title? They still need to figure out how to keep Chauncey Billups, and at this point Webber is a rental for them. Rockets can offer him the opportunity to start on the team, play with his good friend Juwan Howard (and Jalen Rose potentially) and more money than the Pistons might be willing to spend. Webber also had a good relationship with your new coach.
Webber's not the answer for this team. If we could find another backup PG who can dwindle Skip's minutes to the 28-32 range, we'll be fine. I believe Wells will return and play inspired ball for his "favorite coach of alltime", so there's our third scorer. I also think Adelman will make better use of Novak and Lucas to go to an uptempo, shooting attack. I think it'd also be smart of us to pursue Anderson Varejao because Cleveland doesn't have a huge salary room to work with. I also think Head needs to go, so I would use him as tradebait. A guard with poor ballhandling and defensive skills is practically useless. To sum up: - Backup PG - Backup C (preferably a young, athletic guy who we can develop) - stable PF, and possibly platooning Hayes and Howard as backups depending on matchups.
Head is actually a pretty solid backup guard. His only real negative attribute is his size. The guy plays hustle defense, quick, athletic (have u seen some of his pre-Rockets youtube videos? The guy dunks on almost everybody!), and can shoot the 3-ball well. His ball handling may be suspect, but I think it's more because of how JVG utilized him. JVG's system didn't really require a PG to dictate the game tempo. It's seriously just TMac and Yao doing it all with all other players spotting up near the 3 point line. There were no real set plays, maybe a little pick & roll between 2 players, but ultimately it didn't matter at all whether they had a PG or not out there. We have yet to see Head actually handles the ballhandling job, he a proven defender and spot up shooter though.
possibilities for PF Are there any possibilities that Josh Mcroberts slips to where rockets draft pick is? If there is I think he will fit in just perfect with his abilities to leap and defend strong post men.
