Why not get Gasol?

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  1. kobe23

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    How does a lineup of

    PG signed with the MLE (Blake maybe)/Farmar
    Kobe/Sasha
    Luke/Evans
    Lamar/Turiaf/Cook
    Gasol/Mihm

    sound?

    well its possible!

    If we trade Gasol (12M) for Kwame (8.3) + Bynum (2M) + picks
    then we could sign a pg or any decent player with the MLE

    Kobe/Odom/Gasol > Kobe/KG

    What are some things that could prevent this trade from happening?
     
  2. AKIRA

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    <div class="quote_poster">kobe23 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">How does a lineup of

    PG signed with the MLE (Blake maybe)/Farmar
    Kobe/Sasha
    Luke/Evans
    Lamar/Turiaf/Cook
    Gasol/Mihm

    sound?

    well its possible!

    If we trade Gasol (12M) for Kwame (8.3) + Bynum (2M) + picks
    then we could sign a pg or any decent player with the MLE

    Kobe/Odom/Gasol > Kobe/KG

    What are some things that could prevent this trade from happening?</div>

    the fact that the grizz might not, and probably dont want to, trade gasol. theres one thing that gets in the way. another is if they are going to trade gasol then why would they take our deal when they could get something much better? idk.
     
  3. kobe23

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    <div class="quote_poster">AKIRA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">the fact that the grizz might not, and probably dont want to, trade gasol. theres one thing that gets in the way. another is if they are going to trade gasol then why would they take our deal when they could get something much better? idk.</div>

    It said that if they were able to get Durant or Oden they would most likely trade Gasol
    IMO so that:

    If Oden - Oden could develop into a dominant player by owning the paint

    If Durant - Durant and Bynum could develop into a kobe shaq/tmac yao type of duo
     
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    Gasol is still very young. Out of all the "superstars" that could be traded this offseason, Gasol will be the hardest one to obtain. He has not come out and said he wants out of Memphis, like Jermaine O'Neal, nor has there been any big rumor that he wants out of Memphis, ala Kevin Garnett and Minnesota. Plus, Gasol is a great player, and he's still very very young. Why not have a Greg Oden and Pau Gasol duo? Why not have a Pau Gasol and Kevin Durant duo? Gasol, unlike Bynum, is already a proven star in this league
     
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    thats an absolutely stupid idea. why would they trade Gasol if they get Durant or Oden?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">He has not come out and said he wants out of Memphis, like Jermaine O'Neal</div>

    Their was a rumor actually in the middle of the season that Gasol wanted to be traded.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yahoo.com - There is more bad news for the Grizzlies. Spanish star Pau Gasol would rather play for a championship contender.

    Gasol told the "El Tirachanas" program on Spanish television's COPE that he wanted "to be with a team competing for a ring," something that he added would be "very difficult" to do with the Grizzlies.</div>

    http://justbball.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63500

    BTW, Jermaine never said he wanted to be traded.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">ala Kevin Garnett and Minnesota.</div>

    Your acting as if that has some credibility. Everytime someone says KG wants out or is going to get traded, it's pure speculation/BS.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Bobcats Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Their was a rumor actually in the middle of the season that Gasol wanted to be traded.</div>

    My bad. Either way, Gasol will still be the hardest player to aquire.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">BTW, Jermaine never said he wanted to be traded.</div>

    No, but there are a lot of rumors. Stephen Jackson has said that Jermaine O'Neal wants to get traded to either the Knicks, or the Lakers.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Your acting as if that has some credibility. Everytime someone says KG wants out or is going to get traded, it's pure speculation/BS.</div>

    Garnett has said himself, "Thank god for opt outs." Although nothing can be said for certain, he's definetly not happy in Minnesota.

    I'm not saying by any means that we will aquire O'Neal, Garnett, or Gasol, but out of the three, Gasol will be the hardest to aquire IMO
     
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    but gasol isnt even on the market! you guys are talking as if we can get for free! the grizz never said anything about trading him, gasol never said he wanted out, it was all BS rumours. why would they give away a player so good, so talented. can you imagine a gasol/oden combo? they would kill it, and with rudy gay on the perimeter, there is no chance any team could defend this squad once they develop. even if they get durant theyre not trading gasol, gasol is probably the closest player to KG's style and skill (not that he is as good as him) why would they pass that up for odom and bynum, or kwame and bynum? they dont need another SF, they dont need crap players like kwame and bynum. lets be realistic for god sake.
     
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    If LA is willing to give up Andrew Bynum, then Memphis would agree to a deal IMO. They would build around Oden/Durant/Wright and Bybum.
     
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    If I were a Laker fan, this would be a deal I'd be more interested in than a deal for KG. I think you could probably find a way to get Gasol much cheaper than Garnett, and Gasol is much more skilled than he gets credit for; he'd be a solid fit in the triangle. And Phil would maximize his defensive abilities a bit more, too. Kobe/Odom/Gasol is actually a scary trio, IMO.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Bobcats Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If LA is willing to give up Andrew Bynum, then Memphis would agree to a deal IMO. They would build around Oden/Durant/Wright and Bybum.</div>

    Why the hell does Memphis want Andrew Bynum when they have Pau Gasol?

    What's the lure of Andrew Bynum? That he has the potential to turn into a decent post player years down the road?

    Think about that. Gasol's a post player who's currently playing on a superstar level, is still young, and hasn't reached his prime. So wouldn't acquiring Bynum be a step backwards?

    The Lakers can get a good player in return for Bynum if that player is either an aging veteran or a free agent looking for a sign-and-trade, but otherwise, they're not brining in anyone special with Bynum as the bait.

    One word can describe this traded idea: farfetched.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Bobcats Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If LA is willing to give up Andrew Bynum, then Memphis would agree to a deal IMO. They would build around Oden/Durant/Wright and Bybum.</div>

    thats what im trying to say [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why the hell does Memphis want Andrew Bynum when they have Pau Gasol?

    What's the lure of Andrew Bynum? That he has the potential to turn into a decent post player years down the road?</div>The only thing I can think of, is that I heard that Memphis doesn't like spending a lot of money, and getting rid of Gasol's large contract (not all that unattractive b/c he is kind of young, a 7 footer, and is a good player).

    If they think they can save some money, and get Bynum to re-sign for cheaper than the 12 mill per year or whatever Gasol makes then maybe that is the only incentive.

    Otherwise, it seems that Gasol will outproduce Bynum for the next 5 years, and possibly more than that depending on how Bynum develops. Although who knows, maybe Gasol gets injured and Bynum develops fast (the guy is still quite young).
     
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    Emplay wrote a a piece on Gasol and the Lakers: http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_21937.shtml

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Gasol is a better triangle fit. His defense is underrated though not as strong as O'Neal's.

    For a sample of what Gasol can do, remember the Memphis win over the Lakers in LA?

    Who blocked Bryant's final shot? Who anchored a zone defense that completely confused the home team?

    If Gasol is "soft," how did the Grizzlies hold teams to a lower field goal percentage than any team in the league two seasons ago?</div>
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Skiptomylue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The only thing I can think of, is that I heard that Memphis doesn't like spending a lot of money, and getting rid of Gasol's large contract (not all that unattractive b/c he is kind of young, a 7 footer, and is a good player).

    If they think they can save some money, and get Bynum to re-sign for cheaper than the 12 mill per year or whatever Gasol makes then maybe that is the only incentive.

    Otherwise, it seems that Gasol will outproduce Bynum for the next 5 years, and possibly more than that depending on how Bynum develops. Although who knows, maybe Gasol gets injured and Bynum develops fast (the guy is still quite young).</div>

    I don't think that money is an issue at all for the Grizzlies. It's usually only an issue with players who are overpaid, which Gasol is clearly not. Besides, they have more cap room than most teams in the NBA. They're actually shopping for max-contract free agents this offseason, like Chauncey Billups. Wouldn't that be something? A starting lineup of Billups, Miller, Gay, Gasol, and Oden. That's a lot more realistic than Gasol for Bynum and spare parts.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Gasol is a better triangle fit. His defense is underrated though not as strong as O'Neal's.

    For a sample of what Gasol can do, remember the Memphis win over the Lakers in LA?

    Who blocked Bryant's final shot? Who anchored a zone defense that completely confused the home team?

    If Gasol is "soft," how did the Grizzlies hold teams to a lower field goal percentage than any team in the league two seasons ago?</div>

    Of course Gasol would be a great fit for the Lakers, but there's really still no incentive for the Grizzlies to do the deal, especially not with a team in their own conference.
     
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    It might work just dont give up Bynum. I think Bynum can be a good player for the Lakers
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Bacon Smeller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It might work just dont give up Bynum. I think Bynum can be a good player for the Lakers</div>

    So I take it you're advocating throwing Kobe Bryant into the deal instead?

    Or do you think the Lakers can get Gasol with just Kwame Brown as the bait?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Bacon Smeller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It might work just dont give up Bynum. I think Bynum can be a good player for the Lakers</div>

    You can't trade trash for treasure. A package centered around Andrew Bynum will have little to no chance of getting the deal done, take out Bynum, you might as well not waste your time, unless your willing to trade Kobe
     
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    OK, not to hate on Bynum, but right now, I wouldn't give up Gasol for him. Bynum is un-proven. He hasn't dominated yet or shown he's a top centre.

    Gasol has. The grizz would never make that deal, unless they where offered odom and some picks. Even then, its not great for the grizz. Keep Bynum, Keep Gasol. Wait till bynum is better. You all say hes gunna be great, well I wanna see it.
     

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