<div class="quote_poster">hustler Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Watch the Suns win this thing I will laugh at every one of you doubting their chances.</div> As a spurs fan i fear that we could potentially lose this game, it has been proven time after time that teams play better when one of their star players is not on the court. It motivates the teamates to play better. this is just feul for the suns to play better. GO SPURS GO!!
<div class="quote_poster">TimmyDMVP Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">As a spurs fan i fear that we could potentially lose this game, it has been proven time after time that teams play better when one of their star players is not on the court. It motivates the teamates to play better. this is just feul for the suns to play better. GO SPURS GO!!</div> Too bad the Suns have no one to guard Duncan anymore other than Thomas. Unless he plays 48 minutes, I guess the Suns have put Pat Burke or Sean Marks on him
<div class="quote_poster">hustler Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Watch the Suns win this thing I will laugh at every one of you doubting their chances.</div> Exactly what I was thinking. This will give Phoenix a better chance to run and gun, but they will miss Amare's presence in the paint. I said the Suns would win it in 6, but this may push it back to 7. The NBA screwed up with the suspensions, they should have just left this series alone, but they care more about their image than they do about the game. I still think the Suns will more than likely win it in 6.
<div class="quote_poster">XSV Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Its too bad that Stern has almost single-handedly destroyed the integrity and reputation of this league. I don't even know whether I'm going to watch the rest of this playoffs.</div> LOL, did it take this to show you how he has destroyed the integrity and reputation of this league??? I told myself I would not watch the NBA this entire year, yet I have watched bits and pieces. BUT, never again will I watch and cheer with the same passion as I did before. I used to schedule my days around playoff games and important regular season games, but now, if I'm available, I'll watch a bit of it, if not, I didn't care enough to watch. The NBA has definitely lost this fan.
If Horry's intention was to purposely do something stupid to sacrifice himself in exchange for the Suns' better players, then he's a genius but I doubt it. How can they suspend Amare and Diaw for coming off the bench? It's a fuckin instinct to do that when that's happening. **** the NBA ****. They probably all caucasians behind the office.
<div class="quote_poster">bigl99 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If Horry's intention was to purposely do something stupid to sacrifice himself in exchange for the Suns' better players, then he's a genius but I doubt it. How can they suspend Amare and Diaw for coming off the bench? It's a fuckin instinct to do that when that's happening. **** the NBA ****. They probably all caucasians behind the office.</div> First of your a moron... lol. What does color of the skin have to do with anything? They broke the rules you should not expect special treatment no matter who you are. I think it is time for them to change that rule though, but anyways I thought it was a fair move suspend Horry 2 games, and Boris & Amare one.
<div class="quote_poster">amador08 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What does color of the skin have to do with anything? They broke the rules you should not expect special treatment no matter who you are. I think it is time for them to change that rule though, but anyways I thought it was a fair move suspend Horry 2 games, and Boris & Amare one. </div> I agree they should know not to leave the bench becuz then it would escalate into something more.
Let's keep this civil fellas, or it'll be shut down. Follow the guidelines. No baiting, cussing, personal attacks, etc...
It is a really stupid rule, but at the end of the day it is a rule...and the league had to execute upon it. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">anybody that the league clearly supports the Spurs and their thug play style.</div> I don't like the Spurs, but that was a VERY idiotic statement.
The big gift given to Robert Horry and his Spurs got me motivated today to do something I almost did during the Melo-J.R. Smith massive suspensions, namely, to investigate whether David Stern and Stu Jackson's theories about altercations and unsportsmanlike acts hold any water or not. They think that heavy suspensions will reduce unsportsmanlike acts and eliminate or almost eliminate altercations. The leave the bench rule has been in effect for more than 10 years, and suspensions in general have become longer and longer. But neither has had any effect on the number of incidents with fines and suspensions. To make this more clear, I should say that fines and suspensions are based on altercations, incidents that could have easily developed into altercations, and on unsportsmanlike acts unrelated to altercations. David Stern and Stu Jackson think, or at least want people to believe, that their approach has reduced altercations and unsportsmanlike actions, but the evidence proves that their approach has no effect whatsoever. Going around the internet, I have seen some writers, trying to back up Stern and Jackson, claim that altercations are down from previous years, without providing any proof. I have found evidence that the bad stuff has not come down at all over the recent years. The number of incidents has been more or less the same over the recent years. <u>Number of Incidents Leading to Fines and/or Suspensions</u> 1995 52 1996 56 1997 53 1998 N 1999 56 2000 67 2001 86 2002 80 2003 61 2004 84 2005 63 2006 66 1998 is not available due to incomplete data Counts accurate to +/- 1 Source for Compilation of NBA Fines & Suspensions
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6815442...P>1=10035 ^^^good article here.... a few years ago Shaq and some other lakers left the bench during the Fox and Christie brawl and none were suspended (those that left the bench), because the NBA ruled that they weren't trying to "worsten the situation"....there was no "proof" or hardcore evidence showing that Amare or Diaw were going to worsten the situation..... chances are we'll have a boring ass conference finals with Utah and S.A. (no offense to Jazz or Spurs fans) and the league will have record lows in the ratings, because they're so damn concerned with their "image"....I know I won't be watching...and I'm a diehard basketball fan....
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The number of incidents has been more or less the same over the recent years. </div> which is why this rule is stupid....during baseball altercations players leave the dugouts all the time and nothing happens to them as long as they don't worsten the situation.......
<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">which is why this rule is stupid....during baseball altercations players leave the dugouts all the time and nothing happens to them as long as they don't worsten the situation.......</div> Huge differance between baseball and basketball is that the fans are no where near the altercation, when the brawls break out. Meanwhile, if one happens in the NBA the league would be liable to some major lawsuits should the fans get injured. Although, i don't agree with the suspensions of Amare and Diaw, I do understand why the league would have some type of rule in place to prevent players from leaving the bench area during an altercation.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Its too bad that Stern has almost single-handedly destroyed the integrity and reputation of this league. I don't even know whether I'm going to watch the rest of this playoffs. </div> I'm with you on this one.....
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Huge differance between baseball and basketball is that the fans are no where near the altercation, when the brawls break out. Meanwhile, if one happens in the NBA the league would be liable to some major lawsuits should the fans get injured. Although, i don't agree with the suspensions of Amare and Diaw, I do understand why the league would have some type of rule in place to prevent players from leaving the bench area during an altercation. </div> but the point is that as long as no one does anything to worsten the situation then they shouldn't be suspended....trust me if someone wants to really kick someones ass then they're going to do it whether or not they have to leave the bench or not (as proven by tremaine)...this rule hasn't done anything to improve the fighting situation....this is professional sports and fights will always happen, if you can't accept that as a fan and you view someone as a "thug" for an altercation then you have some problems....
<div class="quote_poster">Brian Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Also, Robert Horry got suspended 2 games for the hit on Steve Nash. Raja Bell was suspended 1 game last season for clothelining Kobe Bryant. I fail to see how Horry's hit was any worse than Bell's clotheline last season, especially since it seemed like Nash exageratted the fall quite a bit</div> Inconsistancies in the NBA rulings? You don't say!?! I agree that it's all bullshit. Either suspend everyone that was involved (Duncan, Horry, Bowen Diaw, Amare), or suspend Horry for only 1 game.
<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> a few years ago Shaq and some other lakers left the bench during the Fox and Christie brawl and none were suspended (those that left the bench), because the NBA ruled that they weren't trying to "worsten the situation"....there was no "proof" or hardcore evidence showing that Amare or Diaw were going to worsten the situation..... chances are we'll have a boring ass conference finals with Utah and S.A. (no offense to Jazz or Spurs fans) and the league will have record lows in the ratings, because they're so damn concerned with their "image"....I know I won't be watching...and I'm a diehard basketball fan....</div> Your apparently not a diehard fan if you don't want to watch a Utah-Spurs series. They play real basketball and execute with precision. These teams are here for a reason, they had to beat people and out execute them. Just because they're actually playing organized ball doesn't mean they're boring. If you don't like them, then why do you watch basketball?
^^^one of the reasons I won't watch is because of the repeated stupidity of our league....and yes I'm a diehard basketball fan, but Utah and S.A. isn't the most "exciting" series as an everyday basketball fan...sorry, it's just the way I feel....
<div class="quote_poster">Blur Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Huge differance between baseball and basketball is that the fans are no where near the altercation, when the brawls break out. Meanwhile, if one happens in the NBA the league would be liable to some major lawsuits should the fans get injured. Although, i don't agree with the suspensions of Amare and Diaw, I do understand why the league would have some type of rule in place to prevent players from leaving the bench area during an altercation.</div> How many times have fights in the NBA involved fans though? Other than the Artest fight, I can't remember the last time. Off hand in baseball, I can remember 2 times when fans got into with players just in the last 5 years or so.
