Got this from LG... According to AM570, Ron Artest has been seen in the SoCal area looking to by a house. A couple of days ago...maybe a week, there was an article in the Sacramento newspaper stating that the Kings would consider Artest for Kwame to clear up cap space, or artest for Luke (S&T) and a filler (Cook?). Shape, I know you listen to the radio a lot. Have you heard this? Artest is a head case...but he could be worth the risk. It'd be even better if we could acquire Jermaine and Tinsley for Bynum, Odom, Vlad. Tinsley/Farmar Kobe/??? Artest/Evans Jermaine/Turiaf Maagloire (MLE)/Mihm Seems to unreal...it seems like too much of an improvement over an offseason.
why the heck would we want tinsley ... he'd be terrible (moreso than now) in the triangle. If we could get Artest for Kwame, I think i would just hold off on trading for Oneal. Doing that just opens up more holes on our team .. if we were able to get Artest, and then sign an above average PG, i think that would be a huge improvement to the team as is ... plus that's 3 new starters as is ..(bynum would move into the lineup) <font color=""Red"">above average PG</font> / Farmar / Sasha Kobe / Evans <font color=""Red"">Artest </font>/ Walton / Vlad Odom / Turiaf / Cook <font color=""Red"">Bynum </font>/ Mihm
I think getting Artest will be a really good idea since you never know if Luke Walton may come back and you need back up since he has his ankle problems. I think that Phil could keep him under control and i think that the Kings will take anybody for him at this time.
I don't think it'd be an option of us wanting Tinsley. I think Indiana would want to package Tinsley with a deal involving JO to unload his contract. I wouldn't consider Bynum a new starter either, as he played in all 82 games for us and started 53 of them this previous season. If the option is there to get an all-star caliber PF/C, I don't know why you'd turn that down. It's not like we'd be stacking our team with just offensive threats. Artest, Jermaine, and Kobe are all good defenders.
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think it'd be an option of us wanting Tinsley. I think Indiana would want to package Tinsley with a deal involving JO to unload his contract. I wouldn't consider Bynum a new starter either, as he played in all 82 games for us and started 53 of them this previous season. If the option is there to get an all-star caliber PF/C, I don't know why you'd turn that down. It's not like we'd be stacking our team with just offensive threats. Artest, Jermaine, and Kobe are all good defenders.</div> How is Bynum not a new starter? He was Kwame's backup last year. He started that many games because Kwame was injured. Starting games and being a starter are two different things.. Plus Im assuming he will be better than he was last year Tinsley-Kobe-Artest-Oneal-Magloire would be a terrible lineup with lousy depth. First off, that's exactly 1 starter with experience in the triangle, and 4 starters who have never put on purple and gold. Secondly, we are really good at 2-3-4, but then we have HUGE holes at 1 and 5. There's no balance there. Tinsley in the triangle, can you imagine that? When he's not jacking up ill advised shots, he's on the sideline hurt. And as bad as Smush was at defense, Tinsley is just as bad, dare i say perhaps even worse ... Magloire, the oldest 28 year old in the NBA, platoon with Mihm? We better have the best 3rd string Center in the NBA ready ... We will have no shooters to help the double teams and zones, and our starting lineup will have the lowest shooting % team in the NBA, and that's without a 3 ball chucker ... (lets face it, JO is good, but his % aren't good for a PF, and Artest FG% is terrible, and Tinsley % is worse, and Maglories are nothing to brag about for a center The Lakers need to upgrade and upgrade aggressively. But 4 new Lakers in the starting lineup is quite extreme
Ya I woudn't get greedy and think about all those players. Honestly I think getting Ron Artest (Pjax can control Rodman, he can control Artest) signing Luke Walton, somehow signing a decent point gaurd and trading for a solid bigman and the lakers will be set. How we're going to get the money to sign a FA point gaurd like Steve Blake or Billups I have no idea. And who we're going to trade for a good big man is questionable as well...Any ideas?
I haven't heard this information on the radio, but I don't know what it proves. A lot of NBA players purchase property in the LA area. I don't think teams are allowed to discuss trades yet, so this is pure speculation. I also don't think you can compare Rodman with Artest. The difference is Rodman's antics hurt Rodman, Artest's antics hurt others. Being arrested for domestic violence is really low, and being brought up on charges for not taking care of your dog is another sign of not caring. The only justification I have for pursuing Artest is his cheap contract. Every time Artest has been dealt he's been on good behavior for at least one season. Year two is when Artest embarrasses himself and wears out his welcome. By year two of his current deal he'd be a free agent, so if things didn't work out the Lakers wouldn't be stuck with him. The question becomes, who do you give up for Artest, knowing the potential risks? Kwame Brown is a name linked to him, but is it a good idea for the Lakers to send out their best interior defender to land Artest? I like to think the Lakers could get something more stable for Kwame and his $9M expiring contract. If the Lakers decide to go after Artest, they should also require some type of insurance back, whether it be another player or a draft pick. Artest should probably be option Z for the Lakers, he shouldn't be a priority for players on their list to pursue. If A thru Y doesn't work out, then yeah, go ahead and explore Artest, but until they've exercised those other 25 options, I would resist any attempts at dealing a starter Artest. Now if Sacramento wants to take Radman, Cook, or Sasha for Artest you do that immediately.
I agree with NMG about Jamaal Tinsley. He is a terrible option at PG for the Lakers and has an ugly contract. Tinsley pounds the rock for 15 seconds, before deciding on what offensive set to run, or dribbles into two defenders and throws up a pray.
I was just thinking if we could get Artest... if we cant KG or Jo ... why not try this line up.. any decent Pg or Farmar / Farmar.. Kobe / Sasha / Evan Artest / Vlad/ Cook Walton / Turiaf Odom / Bynum / mihm Just thinking out loud... what you guys thing
I love Kwame Brown. Everytime he did something right, I applaused for him but I'm giving up on this dude man...He doesn't play with any fire. Well, he might plays with fire in him for one game, then the next 5 back to the old butter finger Kwame. Take a chance on Artest if all we giving up is Kwame.
This has nothing to do with anything here, but I was just on ESPN and I saw the video on the draft prospect Yi Jianlian, and being a fellow chinese kid I want to say: That I want him (on our team...). On the Kwame and Artest deal. I'm kinda so-so on it, granted Artest is a great player and defender, I worry about our frontline. Considering when the big men got into foul trouble this year, we had a hard time defending the paint, and even if they were ok, foul-wise, they STILL had problems. So giving up our best post defender is kinda worrying me. Whatever happens, happens.
