My offseason suggestions

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  1. TmacGarnett

    TmacGarnett JBB JustBBall Member

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    Hey guys I would like to see your opinion on my (realistic)offseason plans

    Coaching Issue:
    I love JVG and I love what he has done for this organization. If I had no other great option at Coach...I would open him back into rocket arms. The fact of the matter is there are three great coaches out there that are up for grabs.
    Rick Adleman, Larry Brown, Stan Van Gundy. All the Rockets fans want Rick Adelman because he provides that offense that we are lacking. I personally think we should go after Stan Van gundy because what he did for the Heat was good on both ends of the floor. I think Adelman should be a fine addition though
    My Pick for Coach: Rick Adelman great attitude and great coach. Defense will fall a little but with Chuck hayes and Shane battier, we should still be one of the top teams defensively.

    Resign Players:
    1) Resign Chuck Hayes...The debate has been on and off all year, but you cannot deny the impact he has had for this team. Everything I have read indicates that he wants to be back and more than likely will.
    2) Resign Deke...Yes, He is old and he isn't wat he used to be but if you look at the free agent market, the good centers available are Mikki Moore(will be resigned), Primo Brezec (Is he really a step up from Deke?), and Darko(will be resigned). There are others like kurt Thomas but we want to get younger if anything.

    Buyouts:
    We need to let Sura go

    Trade/Draft:

    Trade Rafer Alston + Juwan Howard To Milwakee for Bobby Simmons + 1st round draft pick.
    Bobby Simmons is an injury riddled guy who hasn't really done anything in milwakee. I would be willing to take a chance on him and they have a really high draft pick. Milwakee is also in need of a point gaurd because their top 2 PGs are going to be free agents.

    With their high draft pick, I would draft Brandon Wright or Yi JianLin.

    if this trade doesn't go through, I would try rigourosly to trade up into the lottery for the following players(Brandon Wright, Yi Jian lin, Mike Conley Jr., Jaokim noah, Julian Wright) Anyone of them would be a good addition.

    IF we can't trade up and are stuck with the 26th pick... I would trade it or draft (Arron Afflalo,Marcus Williams, or Marco bellinini)

    Signing Free Agents
    This Phase of offseason depends on what we have done previously. Sorry if this gets a little complicated, but I will hit every single issue that can be hit.
    IF WE CANNOT TRADE UP AND END UP DRAFTING ONE OF THE THREE SG/SFs
    Sign Antonio McDyess...He would instantly be our starting power forward and would provide good offense. Why would he leave Detroit? If Detroit doesn't move on or win a championship, I think he will opt out. Sign him with the Full MLE.

    Our Final lineup with him and other conditions stated:
    C: Yao/ Deke
    PF: Antonio Mcdyess/Chuck Hayes/ Juwan Howard
    SF: Shane battier/(#26 draft pick)/ Steve Novak
    SG: Tracy Mcgrady/Luther head/ Kirk Snyder
    PG: Rafer Alston/Vspan/ JL3

    IF A TRADE TO MOVE UP IN THE DRAFT IS SUCCESSFUL
    Sign Steve Blake or Chucky Atkins for Full MLE. Both are suitable point gaurds. Neither is extremely good, but both can be good role players. The thing I like about them the most is that Vspan is probably equally as talented and will get minutes.
    OUR lineup with this and previous conditions:
    C: Yao/ Deke
    PF: (Lottery PF draft pick)/ Chuck Hayes
    SF: Shane battier/Bobby Simmons/Steve Novak
    SG: Tracy Mcgrady/Luther head/ Kirk Snyder
    PG: Steve Blake or Chucky Atkins/Vspan/ JL3


    Tell me what you guys think
     
  2. moeinhouston

    moeinhouston JBB JustBBall Member

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    well thats all the options, but to be more specific

    I think an above the rim guard has to come from the draft whether the Rockets move up or trade for another pick. Even another late 1st rounder would be OK.

    TMac, Yao, Shane...... nobody else untouchable. Skip maybe because he is our biggest PG.

    Snyder+Luther combo could attract some attention for a good player or pick.
    Maybe sign and trade for MO.Pete from the Raps.

    The MLE Has to get an athletic big. Somebody that can finish at the rim.

    A.McDyess is the guy if he can't get more somewhere else.

    Melvin Ely is a finisher, and takes up space, not much more but could come cheap after getting uneven min. and not playing for S.A. in the playoffs.

    Mikey Moore would be a nice fill in
    and Marc Jackson to a lessor extent would be an upgrade.

    thats 4 guys all possibly available and all should get the Rockets bid of the MLE. Other Teams will be after them but getting big minutes between 3 elite players has to be attractive.
     
  3. TmacGarnett

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    Hmmm I disagree with a couple of those:

    1) Do we really need an above the rim player when we have kirk Snyder? Even if we trade him for the pick instead of Skip...it is easier to sign a gaurd like that because there are not that many in this draft. This draft is loaded with AMAZING PFs. We can fill a starting PF need for 4-5 years to come by drafting either Jaokim Noah, Brandon Wright, Yi Jian Lin, or Julian Wright.

    2) We cant trade Kirk Snyder AND Luther Head for a deal because that kills our depth at the SG position especially when we cant draft a athletic SG(btw the only one in this draft is Corey Brewer and to a lesser extent Thaddeus Young)

    3) Mo Pete will resign with the surging raptors and Mikki Moore will resign with New Jersey most likely. He is inconsistent at times and the only way I see us getting him is in a sign and deal for VC where we have to give up Shane plus other good players.

    4) Dont overvalue the MLE. Remember that any team over the salary cap has it and teams under can spend more.
     
  4. Montaman

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    I may catch heat for this, but I think the Rockets need to trade Yao now while his stock is high. He's simply too big, too slow, and too overworked for his body. I have a bad feeling that the injuries he'shad this year and last are going to explode this coming year. Right now you could probably pick up an All-Star and a couple of very good supporting players for Yao.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Montaman Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I may catch heat for this, but I think the Rockets need to trade Yao now while his stock is high. He's simply too big, too slow, and too overworked for his body. I have a bad feeling that the injuries he'shad this year and last are going to explode this coming year. Right now you could probably pick up an All-Star and a couple of very good supporting players for Yao.</div>

    I don't think his stock is high. Hes probably one of the cheapest "superstars" on the market.
     
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    Don't call me nuts but if we get a coach that can better control players off the courts and physcologically i think Eddie Griffin would be a good option. If we some how controled him phycologically he would give us what we need a pf rebounding blocking and shooting and put backs and stuff. Can larry brown or rick adlemen do that i don't know Brown? maybe cuz of rasheed and had no problems with big ben when he was in detroit.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">tinyballer Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Don't call me nuts</div>

    You're NUTS!!! Eddie Griffin??? Are you serious?? That guy needs to be locked up not playing NBA basketball.
     
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    Well, i guess i am nuts but to create assets in our situation you gotta take a risk. If we got a coach that can control him then that success rate goes up greatly. If we don't release his butt.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">tinyballer Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Don't call me nuts but if we get a coach that can better control players off the courts and physcologically i think Eddie Griffin would be a good option. If we some how controled him phycologically he would give us what we need a pf rebounding blocking and shooting and put backs and stuff. Can larry brown or rick adlemen do that i don't know Brown? maybe cuz of rasheed and had no problems with big ben when he was in detroit.</div>

    Fool me once, shame on you!
    Fool me twice, shame on me!
     
  11. TmacGarnett

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    Eddie Griffin is not a risk...He thinks he is immune to everything. He isn't even that good. I would prefer Stromile back over eddie griffin.
     
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    Stromile just can't produce even if he had a good defensive coach. Eddie on the other hand has a great jump shot, rebounding ability and shotblocking and defensive ability everything we need to pf in a salary that we can get for the minimum. I want eddie back yes but my point was actually this off season we need to make several high risk high reward deals because we need more assets.
     
  13. moeinhouston

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    Stro and Griff should never be on anybody's NBA team. Jerry Wests dumbest move in life was taking Stro back, no matter who it was for. Didn't he leave.

    New Jersey has plenty of Contract issues and Mikey Moore is making the Min.
    That would have to make it easier to at least attract the guy.

    The supply of Bigs in the draft IS THE Reason why I think, With the Late 1st rounder, Rockets have to get am above the rim guard who can handle the ball.

    The elite Bigs will be gone by the time the rockets pick and some better ball handlers will fall.

    A.Afflalo would be great if available, not great above the rim
    Gabe Pruitt out of USC who I am high on fits in perfect
    There is a couple other big guards that could be there.
     
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    Yeah Gabe Pruitt would be amazing for us but his stock may rise with lack of PG's in the draft.
     
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    Both Aaron Brooks and Sean Singletary are expected to drop. Both are very small guards, but for pure skills Brooks is a very nice player.
     
  16. Trip

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    Well Mikki Moore is a good choice for a backup center, but if he asks for anywhere near the MLE, get out of here. This is a guy who has never even been a starter besides this season, and he's not so young either. That and he's pretty much a taller Chuck Hayes with a bit more offensive game.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Locke Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well Mikki Moore is a good choice for a backup center, but if he asks for anywhere near the MLE, get out of here. This is a guy who has never even been a starter besides this season, and he's not so young either. That and he's pretty much a taller Chuck Hayes with a bit more offensive game.</div>
    First off....Moore may get away with playing back up center in the East. But he'll get CLOBBERED in the west as Yao's back up. He's simply too little to play the center position effectivley in the Western Conference. I'd much rather have somebody with a tad bit more size.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">First off....Moore may get away with playing back up center in the East. But he'll get CLOBBERED in the west as Yao's back up. He's simply too little to play the center position effectivley in the Western Conference. I'd much rather have somebody with a tad bit more size.</div>
    He is like 6-10 or 6-11. Just a bit on the thin side. I do agree though that a beefier guy would be better, but if Rick Adelman comes in, Moore should fit best. He's fast, finishes well around the basket, and is a solid rebounder. Kind of like Keon Clark with the Kings under Adelman a few years back.
     
  19. TmacGarnett

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    I still think we should trade up and draft one of those PFs
     
  20. tinyballer

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    Are you infering we trade up to draft Yi or Noah?
     

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