Lebron's Unnatural Basketball Act like Kobe's...

Kobe got suspended 1 game for doing this against Ginobili/Jaric:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6FOsBjD3ik

Does Lebron get suspended for doing this to big C-Webb at last night's game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGnnN5BMXwE


What's the difference?

If Kobe got suspended, I think Lebron should too. But no one's even talking about it. It's a double-standard.

Will David Stern/Stu Jackson just look the other way since it's not "Kobe"?

 

Lebron's "Unnatural Basketball Act" - Suspension like Kobe?

Anyone saw the CLE vs DET game last night in the 3rd quarter where Lebron knocked big 'ol C-Webb down while flailing his arms exactly like Kobe did to warrant a suspension?

Kobe got suspended 1 game for doing this against Ginobili/Jaric:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6FOsBjD3ik

Does Lebron get suspended for doing this to big C-Webb at last night's game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGnnN5BMXwE

Why or why not? Double-standard?

 

I remember seeing that play and screaming at the tv that a foul was not called. I don't suspect this to be a big uproar, and definitely wasn't any lighter then Kobes hit. I say give fouls and maybe flagrants but Kobe should not of been suspended and neither should LeBron.

 

I posted this yesterday, then deleted it because I didn't really want to start another debate (it will only piss me off). There's nothing much to it, Lebron James obviously won't get suspended, Stu Jackson won't even bother watching the tape.

 

They can't afford to suspend their golden boy, what a load of bull.

 

Its all about the attention, IMO. If the media picks up on something (and they always do when it comes to Kobe), the League feels compelled to react. If they don't then they're happy to ignore it, which creates a huge double standard for some players. I also think this is why Amare/Diaw were suspended, but Duncan wasn't.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Its all about the attention, IMO. If the media picks up on something (and they always do when it comes to Kobe), the League feels compelled to react. If they don't then they're happy to ignore it, which creates a huge double standard for some players. I also think this is why Amare/Diaw were suspended, but Duncan wasn't.</div>

Didn't the league look at Duncan's tape? Amare sprinted off the Bench whereas Duncan entered onto the court in a less heated situation that was not ruled as an altercation.

However, LeBron's unnatural act was exactly the same as Kobe's.

 

<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Didn't the league look at Duncan's tape? Amare sprinted off the Bench whereas Duncan entered onto the court in a less heated situation that was not ruled as an altercation.

However, LeBron's unnatural act was exactly the same as Kobe's.</div>
The League reviewed it, but I don't think they took the complaint seriously because they didn't have to. If the Suns hadn't sent in the videotape, no one would have even noticed it. I thought Duncan's actions were a bit worse than what Diaw did. Neither deserved a suspension IMO.

Anyways, I agree this is almost exactly the same thing that Kobe was suspended for.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The League reviewed it, but I don't think they took the complaint seriously because they didn't have to. If the Suns hadn't sent in the videotape, no one would have even noticed it. I thought Duncan's actions were a bit worse than what Diaw did. Neither deserved a suspension IMO.

Anyways, I agree this is almost exactly the same thing that Kobe was suspended for.</div>

Ah but you see, even if Duncan did something that was "worse" than Diaw, the on-court event was not an altercation (at least not Nash-Horry caliber).

 

<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Ah but you see, even if Duncan did something that was "worse" than Diaw, the on-court event was not an altercation (at least not Nash-Horry caliber).</div>
The little tangle between Elson and Jones wasn't much of an altercation, but Duncan stepped onto the court, IMO, with the intention of helping Elson if there were one. Like I said, it wasn't worthy of a suspension, but then neither was Diaw's split-second reaction (which he then corrected). If the media had gotten all over the Duncan incident I think we might have seen a different reaction from the League.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know how even Kobe haters can say Kobe fans are reaching when there is a double standard. The NBA's golden boy deserves to be suspended, but there has been no stir about it.</div>

Someone's going to come up with an excuse saying that Lebron isn't suspended because it's a playoff game. If Kobe did that in the playoffs, he wouldn't be suspended either. Blah blah blah, the NBA is fair, blah blah blah

 

<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The little tangle between Elson and Jones wasn't much of an altercation, but Duncan stepped onto the court, IMO, with the intention of helping Elson if there were one. Like I said, it wasn't worthy of a suspension, but then neither was Diaw's split-second reaction (which he then corrected). If the media had gotten all over the Duncan incident I think we might have seen a different reaction from the League.</div>

Well yes, I can see how Diaw could be excused, didn't mean to imply that you didn't have a point there. Still, in a more heated exchange I can understand why the League took him out.

 

I probably wouldn't say it's entirely fair, nor would I just start saying blah at the conclusion of my thought, but I think the NBA is looking the other way precisely because it's playoff time.

Ultimately, the complaint is all well and good, but I'm still very apathetic on the topic, since Kobe (like most every superstar guard/forward in the NBA) gets his boatload of phantom calls in his favor every year. I'm sure if he were given a choice between getting those games back, or continuing to get the superstar whistle, he'd smartly choose the latter.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Montaman Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I probably wouldn't say it's entirely fair, nor would I just start saying blah at the conclusion of my thought, but I think the NBA is looking the other way precisely because it's playoff time.

Ultimately, the complaint is all well and good, but I'm still very apathetic on the topic, since Kobe (like most every superstar guard/forward in the NBA) gets his boatload of phantom calls in his favor every year. I'm sure if he were given a choice between getting those games back, or continuing to get the superstar whistle, he'd smartly choose the latter.</div>

Yes, but LeBron gets superstar calls and he has had a few "unnatural acts" already himself and has not been suspended for it.

I would agree that the playoffs should be slightly more physical though.

 

I love how people continue saying Kobe gets tons of “phantom calls” every game, when the main reason why he does not attack the basket is because refs don’t always call the fouls. I know he’ll get his fouls at times, but the amount doesn’t compare to guys like Wade or Lebron.

 

So now that Lebron did the same exact thing as Kobe Bryant, does that make him dirty? Because I remember when Kobe hit Manu, intentional or not, he was labeled as a dirty player and a disgrace to the NBA. But I guess it's okay if Lebron did it right? It was just all a misunderstanding. It was 100% unintentional. Don't blame Lebron, blame Webber for being in his way

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BdRjp6CWCM

^ the Golden Boy throwing a ball at a female in the same game.

 

I don't know, man. Maybe our respective biases make us see these things differently. Obviously, you're a Lakers fan, and I'm not, so the truth probably lies somewhere in between.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Montaman Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know, man. Maybe our respective biases make us see these things differently. Obviously, you're a Lakers fan, and I'm not, so the truth probably lies somewhere in between.</div>

Well, I've watched basically every single Laker game this season...

I'm not exactly sure how much Laker games you get