What now?

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  1. N4S

    N4S BBW Member

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    Honestly.

    This team should really dangle Pierce/Wally in the draft.

    They got too much young talent and need to start over clean and let these cats grow together without these two hogging the shots.

    Only guys really on this team that i think have a future is Green, Rondo, and Jefferson.

    Celts fans may think differ.


    Cant complain though seeing this happen to a rival.
     
  2. Master Shake

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    I say get Yi Jialian. He's a great player. 5th isn't so bad, it's not what the celts fans wanted though
     
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    IMO both the Grizzlies and the Celtics deserve what they got. They both were better teams then what their records indicated, and they purposely just tried to lose games. They tried to take advantage of the system and they lost.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">N4S Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Only guys really on this team that i think have a future is Green, Rondo, and Jefferson.</div>

    Can't forget Tony Allen. He is insane when healthy.
     
  5. N4S

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    You figure these 4 will definitely be gone:

    Oden
    Durant
    Wright
    Horford

    Tony Allen will be in jail b4 his career gets going.
     
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    Sucks for the Celtics, but I don't feel bad for them at all. It was pretty clear they were trying to throw games away to secure a top pick. They got what they deserved I guess
     
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    Heres an idea.

    Pick Conley.

    Use him to get someone on Portland.
     
  8. scorbutic

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    <div class="quote_poster">N4S Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Heres an idea.

    Pick Conley.

    Use him to get someone on Portland.</div>

    Atlanta should pick Conley at #3, they have passed on too many PGs in the last 2 drafts, they had better pick Conley this year even if he is a reach at #3, they thought the same about Chris Paul and look how that turned out. I think Oden, Durant, Conley, and Brandan Wright will be the top 4 picks, leaving Brewer, Horford, Julian Wright, Green, Yi, and Noah as possible picks, depending on who the Cs trade and get in return, I'd look at Brewer; I really like him at 5.
     
  9. Voodoo Child

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    <div class="quote_poster">scorbutic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Atlanta should pick Conley at #3, they have passed on too many PGs in the last 2 drafts, they had better pick Conley this year even if he is a reach at #3, they thought the same about Chris Paul and look how that turned out. I think Oden, Durant, Conley, and Brandan Wright will be the top 4 picks, leaving Brewer, Horford, Julian Wright, Green, Yi, and Noah as possible picks, depending on who the Cs trade and get in return, I'd look at Brewer; I really like him at 5.</div>

    I agree that the Hawks should take Conley, Jr., but Billy Knight never seems to care about team needs. He's a real big fan of taking the best talent available, in this case being Wright, despite the fact that the Hawks have a stockpile of forwards already.

    Why would the Celtics take Brewer though? Are you assuming they'll be dealing Pierce? Even if they do, they still have Gerald Green.

    If Horford's available, the Celtics have to take him. However, I think Wright goes to the Hawks and Horford gets snatched up by the Grizzlies, which would leave the Celtics with two options: trade the pick or draft Yi Jianlian.
     
  10. Dark Hero

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    I'm glad that the Celtics didn't get first pick or second. They were losing games just to get the first or second pick.They got what they deserved...
     
  11. The_Future

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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I agree that the Hawks should take Conley, Jr., but Billy Knight never seems to care about team needs. He's a real big fan of taking the best talent available, in this case being Wright, despite the fact that the Hawks have a stockpile of forwards already.

    Why would the Celtics take Brewer though? Are you assuming they'll be dealing Pierce? Even if they do, they still have Gerald Green.

    If Horford's available, the Celtics have to take him. However, I think Wright goes to the Hawks and Horford gets snatched up by the Grizzlies, which would leave the Celtics with two options: trade the pick or draft Yi Jianlian.</div>

    Well seeing as though the Hawks have the 3rd and 11th pick, they might just go with Brandon Wright and then at #11 draft Acie Law? Hawks will probably have a good draft.

    As for Boston, I would take a gamble on Yi, what do you have to lose really, you already lost out on Oden and Durant, Yi could be just as good as those two you never know.
     
  12. Shapecity

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    Boston should draft Spencer Hawes. He doesn't have the hype Oden has coming into this draft, but Hawes is a polished low post scorer with either hand, has range on his jumper, and has the frame to bulk up. He's also a legit 7-footer and would compliment Al Jefferson in the frontcourt.
     
  13. scorbutic

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well seeing as though the Hawks have the 3rd and 11th pick, they might just go with Brandon Wright and then at #11 draft Acie Law?</div>
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Boston should draft Spencer Hawes</div>
    I think Conley is by far than best PG in the draft, they could still get a center at #11 like Hawes, I don't see him in the top 10 on most boards yet. The Hawks need a true center, not another Shelden Williams or Zaza Pachulia attempting to play center.
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Billy Knight never seems to care about team needs</div>
    Very true, it's so tough predicting what they'll do, but I don't think any reasonable person would disagree with Conley at #3 and Hawes at #11, assuming they were both available. It would complete their roster:

    C: Spencer Hawes
    PF: Zaza Pachulia/Shelden Williams
    SF: Josh Smith /Marvin Williams/Josh Childress
    SG: Joe Johnson
    PG: Mike Conley

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Why would the Celtics take Brewer though? Are you assuming they'll be dealing Pierce? Even if they do, they still have Gerald Green</div>
    Like I said "depending on who the Cs trade and get in return", I don't know who they want to keep or who they want to get in return... but at 5 I'm looking at value and I like Brewer. They have Perkins and Jefferson in the front court, Pierce can play the 3, Green/Brewer at the 2, and West as the point, maybe Telfair (don't know what's going on with that). To me it seems they need a point guard, but if Conley is taken, like I think he will be, they will probably go value to add depth, I think that's Brewer. But until moves are made, who knows, maybe they trade some of their bigs for Bibby or Kidd and they draft Horford or Brandan Wright -- it's tough to know what the Ainge is thinking.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I say get Yi Jialian</div>
    I think his bust factor is too high to take in the top 5 unless a team is sure he will become a very good player. I have seen very little of him, he seems quick and can knock down some shots, but it wasn't against NBA players in an NBA game, so I don't know if he will be more like Dirk/Yao or more like Zhizhi/Tskitishvili.
     
  14. NTC

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    The Hawks need to take Conley at #3, over the last 2-3 drafts they've done nothing but draft forwards (Josh Smith, Josh Childress, Solomon Jones, Shelden Williams, Marvin Williams, Boris Diaw etc.), so they're pretty much stockpiled in that department, adding someone like Brandan Wright or Al Horford, who will be good players no doubt, just doesnt make much sense to me. Take a gamble on Conley at #3, and you have pick #11 to take a Centre.
     
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    Hawks should take Yi at 3, get Boston to take Conley at 5 and swing a deal for future picks or cash, assuming Ainge likes the Chinaman as much as is rumoured.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">scorbutic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">To me it seems they need a point guard, </div>

    They have a point guard courtesy of the Phoenix Suns, when they acquired Rajon Rondo.
     
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    I really wanted to see Durant in a boston jersey, I thought he could bring sucess back to this franchise, but i guess they can still get Yi. If they want a really effective and clean slate. Then they should dangle Pierce on draft day.
     
  18. Master Shake

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    I think if they dangle peirce, it is a good idea. They keep a guy like jefferson, and get a good young player through the draft like Conoly or Yi. with some more picks for pierce.
     
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    The backcourt is gonna be Rondo and West, which one is the PG?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">TheGreatK-Bob Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The backcourt is gonna be Rondo and West, which one is the PG?</div>

    Rondo is a better PG, IMO. West is considered a PG, undersized SG. But I think, they can package West and Peirce to get some picks and get a starter, bench player and possibley some picks.
     

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