<div class="quote_poster">lakersfan171 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Seems like the Bulls are getting ripped on the trade <font face=""Arial Black"">while the T-Wolves are getiing the best of the trade </font>and the SUNS are getting good players too while Bulls get Amare and 24 pick. I don't think this trade will happen seems to fiction..</div> The Suns are getting the best deal and the Wolves and Bulls are both getting raped I agree with Blur if the Wolves cant win without KG a mvp and a good scorer how are they going to win with a primary defensive player. If this trade does goes down this will be the suns lineup next year C KG 1 time MVP 22.4 ppg season and 12 rebounds PF Marion 17 ppg and 9 rebounds season and 16.9 and 10 rebounds in playoffs SF Deng 18.8 ppg season and 22.2 in the playoffs this year SG Bell 14.7 ppg and 10.2 ppg in playoffs PG Nash 2 time MVP 18.6 ppg and 11.6 assists in season and 18.9 ppg and 13.3 assists in playoffs 6 Diaw 9.7 ppg in season and 6.6 ppg in playoffs 7 Thomas 4.6 ppg in season and 7 ppg in playoffs
<div class="quote_poster">Downtown Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Okay, you had me until there. At that point, your argument lost ALL credibility. I would explain why, but I shouldn't have to.</div> no please explain why to me. Trading marion wont do much, amara is the future of this team so nash is the only other guy. if they cant do it do you expect them to come back with the same team again next year and try and fail once again? im telling you that squad will never win a championship....and I dont know how they can get someone for Marion who will help them out and Amare is their future. Nash is a great player obviously but if hes not getting it done then they need to trade him. this is the 3rd year they came up short. they should trade him for a good pg & sg combo or something like that.
You must be joking!!! Amare, Nash and Marion will be back to do it all again. Why would you trade any of these guys for KG? Not a really smart move. Barbosa is continually improving, no damn suspensions would have seen a different situation so they will come back and make the NBA finals next year. If anything, some more solid role players off the bench (ala Tim Thomas) and they are set.
<div class="quote_poster">fatballer_10 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You must be joking!!! Amare, Nash and Marion will be back to do it all again. Why would you trade any of these guys for KG? Not a really smart move. Barbosa is continually improving, no damn suspensions would have seen a different situation so they will come back and make the NBA finals next year. If anything, some more solid role players off the bench (ala Tim Thomas) and they are set.</div> if they dont make any major changes then IMO they are idiots....because they wont win next year either. even if the suspensions hadnt happened, there is no way they would have beaten the spurs, again IMO. they have to make 1 or 2 changes now, or else if they dont get a ring next year i am guessing they are gonna totally change the whole team around maybe besides Amare
Of course it won't happen. KG isn't a young higher schooler ready to take on the NBA, he's past his prime, good while he is, he done. If I where to trade Amare for a PF, and the Suns want one like KG, go for the next best thing, or better, go for Durant. Keep Amare, he will be so dominate, he is already good, keep him. Deng needs to stay with the bulls, with Gordon and Hinrich. They are gunna be the Next big 3 after Kidd, Carter Jefferson in the east. They will be amazing together. And The Wolves, get nothing, Wallace Barbose, not exactly the best trade. So I think this should never happen, and if it did, well Congrats on a finals appereance for the Suns.
<div class="quote_poster">Ford_11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Of course it won't happen. KG isn't a young higher schooler ready to take on the NBA, he's past his prime, good while he is, he done. If I where to trade Amare for a PF, and the Suns want one like KG, go for the next best thing, or better, go for Durant. Keep Amare, he will be so dominate, he is already good, keep him. Deng needs to stay with the bulls, with Gordon and Hinrich. They are gunna be the Next big 3 after Kidd, Carter Jefferson in the east. They will be amazing together. And The Wolves, get nothing, Wallace Barbose, not exactly the best trade. So I think this should never happen, and if it did, well Congrats on a finals appereance for the Suns.</div> i think detroit's 3 (hamilton billups and sheed) are much better then deng gordon and hinrich
<div class="quote_poster">elevate Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">i think detroit's 3 (hamilton billups and sheed) are much better then deng gordon and hinrich</div> Agreed, but not for long. That 3 in chicago will be better. But detriots 3 is better. Ill give you that. but overall, Detriots 3 will be better all time then Chi-towns, but all I was saying is that, Chicago should keep their guys.
Ouch for the Bulls. Amare's a great player and all, but the Bulls already have good chemistry and losing Deng would be a HUGE hit to their team. Wolves get a good deal and I can't see the Suns changing too much.
I heard that this trade is pretty possible. But Loul Deng and Seflosha are not going ANYWHERE. Gordon, Ben Wallace, and Nocioni would be leaving. And everyone is right about the T'Wolves getting raped, but supposedly in this deal the T'wolves are looking to take little. I don't know why... The Bulls are also interested in Emeka Okafor and Gerald Wallace. A deal that might have Ben Gordon, the 9th pick and possibly someone else going to the Bobcats (Micheal Jordan loves Ben Gordon, Paxson, does not love Ben Gordon.) I've heard that Paxson is not happy at all with Ben Wallace and is defiantly willing to part with him. I think Ben Gordon got his chance with the Bulls. While he is a electric scorer, he is not a player Paxson foresees winning a championship with. Bulls want him coming of the bench, a firestarter of sorts, Gordon does not want to come off the bench.
<div class="quote_poster">BBall Guru Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I heard that this trade is pretty possible. But Loul Deng and Seflosha are not going ANYWHERE. Gordon, Ben Wallace, and Nocioni would be leaving. And everyone is right about the T'Wolves getting raped, but supposedly in this deal the T'wolves are looking to take little. I don't know why... The Bulls are also interested in Emeka Okafor and Gerald Wallace. A deal that might have Ben Gordon, the 9th pick and possibly someone else going to the Bobcats (Micheal Jordan loves Ben Gordon, Paxson, does not love Ben Gordon.) I've heard that Paxson is not happy at all with Ben Wallace and is defiantly willing to part with him. I think Ben Gordon got his chance with the Bulls. While he is a electric scorer, he is not a player Paxson foresees winning a championship with. Bulls want him coming of the bench, a firestarter of sorts, Gordon does not want to come off the bench.</div> To trade Gordon, wouldn't be smart. He can win games for the Bulls. But I think if the Bulls trade Gordon, 9th pick and Wallace for Omeka and G.Wallace. The Bobcats get the better end. but that is IMO.
<div class="quote_poster">Ford_11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why trade a 24 year old PF for a 31 year old PF past his prime. It's not worth it. But if the Suns got KG, Deng, and Sefolosha, I would cry, because I think the bulls would lose out big time in that trade.</div> If the Suns really want to push to win now, and they get Deng in the deal as well, I'd do it. Amare is indeed only 24, but he's 24 with a microfracture surgery on his knee, and that surgery has been such a deathblow to some players that I honestly don't think you can ever rest easy on Stoudamire from here on out. Garnett at 31, additionally, given his relatively clean health record, his phenomenal conditioning, and the fact that he's just a damn skinny dude, his prime production could easily extend out for another four or five years. For the style the Suns want to play, also, I suspect Garnett would flouris moreso than Stoudamire. The trade idea does seem preposterous at first, but the more I considered the two PFs involved, and the fact that Deng at 23 already as superstar markings all over him... I think it's a good deal for Phoenix. Seems like the rumor has died out, though.
<div class="quote_poster">elevate Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">no please explain why to me. Trading marion wont do much, amara is the future of this team so nash is the only other guy. if they cant do it do you expect them to come back with the same team again next year and try and fail once again? im telling you that squad will never win a championship....and I dont know how they can get someone for Marion who will help them out and Amare is their future. Nash is a great player obviously but if hes not getting it done then they need to trade him. this is the 3rd year they came up short. they should trade him for a good pg & sg combo or something like that.</div> The thing is, Nash IS getting it done. It's most of the rest of the team that disappeared in the Spurs series. Marion and Stoudemire don't get as far without Nash to distribute. They need to trade Diaw who made it obvious he will underachieve alongside Amare, and maybe even consider a new coach that'll bring a defensive toughness the team is lacking. As far as personnel, they need to get deeper by adding quality players, not necessarily try to get better by trading superstar-for-superstar.
<div class="quote_poster">Ford_11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Agreed, but not for long. That 3 in chicago will be better. But detriots 3 is better. Ill give you that. but overall, Detriots 3 will be better all time then Chi-towns, but all I was saying is that, Chicago should keep their guys.</div> if those 3 guys stick together in chicago for a while, then they can def. be better then detroits 3 overall all time. they have alot of potential there.
<div class="quote_poster">elevate Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">if those 3 guys stick together in chicago for a while, then they can def. be better then detroits 3 overall all time. they have alot of potential there.</div> Yea, but I highly doubt Paxson will keep Gordon, he just isn't a fan of him. Which is so stupid. Gordon is one of the best up and coming SG who is playing with one of the best up and coming SF and a PG who is good, and will improve. Just like Billiups, Hamiltion and Prince, but IMO, better. I really hope those three stay together to become a force through out their career.
I really dont want KG anymore. And alot of people here in chicago are not excited about the hopes of getting another face the basket forward. we need a gut who can play with his back to the basket. IMO KG has been playing out of position his whole career. He has the skill set of a SF and just happens to be 7'
