Kobe interview on AM 570.....THIS IS REALLY BAD...

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  1. illmatic

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    It is possible to hate Luke, I'm not fond of him. I'm listening, I'll post my thoughts on it...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It is possible to hate Luke, I'm not fond of him. I'm listening, I'll post my thoughts on it...</div>

    lol, where did Luke come from all this? Anyways, keep listening Mamba, towards the middle to end it's REALLY bad. Kobe is pissed off, and he has FINALLY stop being P.C. all the damn time and is finally being himself. Although it's at the expense of his future with the Lakers and with Lakers organization as a whole, I'm glad he is doing this.

    Before today, I would say Kobe would never be traded. After hearing this interview, I'm not so sure anymore.

    When they ask him do you think all of this damage can be repaired and he says "I don't know, I don't know" That WORRIES me.
     
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    That's great! I'm going to listen to the interview, but it's nice to see Kobe finally showing his frustrations. I'm so sick and tired of Kobe being Mr. Niceguy to the media, and always answering questions so politcally correct, and always with a smile on his face. It's time he finally showed emotion and his discontent
     
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    When the first clip started playing, they said it's impossible to hate Luke, lol.

    While this is still playing, let me mention something...I hate Jim Buss and I wouldn't be surprised if he was the "insider". He's making this organization what he wants. I wouldn't be surprised is Phil walked away. There is a power struggle between the two. Phil and Kobe want to win now, Jim wants to make his legacy through Bynum...who honestly, like I've recently stated, is a lot like Brendan Haywood--lengthy and slow. ill, I've got to give it to you...you were right on with Bynum. It's pathetic to waste our hope on him when he really doesn't have that much potential.

    Kobe was really hurt by Caron's trade. They asked him his thoughts after the trade was made...pathetic. Baron was too injury prone for Mitch, Boozer couldn't guard forwards....so Buss and co didn't want him.

    This "insider" is a moron. I'm glad Kobe has finally spoke up about what happened with Shaq. Kobe did not run him out of town, haters. Jerry Buss didn't want to bring Shaq back, no matter what. Kobe could've left, Buss was going to trade Shaq.

    This interview is ugly, but I like it. Kobe's speaking up. This organization has been a joke since 2003. In 2004, our 4 stars were PMSing pre-madonnas...an embarrassment. I'm glad he spoke up about the front management being a mess, it's the truth. Did he damage some relationships? Probably, but changes need to be made. Laker fans don't win for the future, they want to win now.

    Kobe doesn't know about his future with the Lakers. He's been working out since the end of the season starting at 4:30 AM. BTW, Kobe's a texting whore. He texted Phil, lol.

    At the end of the '04 season, Phil was told the Lakers had a long term plan to build a championship team. They told Kobe they were going to build a championship right away. Kobe found out about the long term plan and what Phil Jackson was told...TODAY.

    This organization is a joke right now. Jim Buss is shady. I've got a gut feeling that he wants Kobe Bryant to request a trade so they can continue building for the future. They don't want to win now because it isn't Jim Buss' era. Buss jr. wants to win when it's his time. Ridiculous.

    Kobe called out Laker management and dared them to come out with a story denying what he said about the long term plan vs. winning now. Kobe's put the truth out there. Amazing.

    This interview has really opened up the truth to a lot of Kobe haters and Laker fans. Before you post anything negative about Kobe, I'd listen to this.
     
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    Kobe comes off really well in this interview. The thing is though, what they told Phil in an exit interview should be taken with a MAJOR grain of salt. Any time you're going to fire someone, you're going to tell them they're fired in the least insulting way. They might even say "we'd love to keep you, but Kobe hates you" even if it's bulls**t just to make the firing go down a little easier. So Kobe might be putting too much stock on what was said during a firing interview.
    Or like he said, maybe the Lakers were planning on going cheap and told Kobe something else. But like anything else it's probably not black and white.
    I guess we'll find out soon.
    However, Laker fans should be scratching their heads over Kupchak turning down a deal Boozer cause he "can't guard 4s".... Artest I understand cause he's a headcase, but Boozer?
     
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    I'm telling you, Kupchak doesn't approve anything. Kupchak may like the deal, but he's still got to get it approved by Jim and Jerry.

    That's a positive with Kobe. He has really matured since he was a young punk. This is one of the most mature and calm callout interviews I've heard.

    Phun, not being a Laker fan, what are your impressions of Kobe and the shady Laker organization? Do you think Kobe is justified being pissed off and calling out the organization after a few years of answering questions the politically correct way?
     
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    I came away feeling betrayed as a Laker supporter. Anyone else feel the same?

    It sounded like Kobe was holding back tears and was genuinely frustrated and irate about the mess the front office has created. He feels he's been used and lied to, as a fan I feel the same.

    The franchise has lost its class and it's depressing to watch this play out.

    What's even more alarming is no one in the organization has reached out to Kobe and tried to settle the situation down. Isn't that the GM's job?

    Mitch Kupchak and Jim Buss are going to be known for running off two Laker Hall of Famers in a matter of 4 seasons.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I came away feeling betrayed as a Laker supporter. Anyone else feel the same?

    It sounded like Kobe was holding back tears and was genuinely frustrated and irate about the mess the front office has created. He feels he's been used and lied to, as a fan I feel the same.

    The franchise has lost its class and it's depressing to watch this play out.

    What's even more alarming is no one in the organization has reached out to Kobe and tried to settle the situation down. Isn't that the GM's job?

    Mitch Kupchak and Jim Buss are going to be known for running off two Laker Hall of Famers in a matter of 4 seasons.</div>

    Imagine how Kobe feels when the management basically lied to him right in his face. It's just disgusting and disrespectful
     
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    I have no problems with what Kobe's doing, to be honest. His neutral stance has left him vulnerable to all sorts of exaggerated criticism and he's let people twist his words around in the media for a while now. Its good to see him step and let everyone know his state of mind and his opinions. Its put more accountability on the ownership, instead of letting them pretend like everything's fine.
     
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    Kobe has gone really deep in this interview... Just amazing on what this organization has done to him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Brian Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Imagine how Kobe feels when the management basically lied to him right in his face. It's just disgusting and disrespectful</div>

    It brought him to tears. He no longer trusts the Laker organization.
     
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    Co-sign shape. I feel betrayed to all ends. How are you not going to build a team around Kobe, the best player to touch a ball since Jordan? I wouldn't even blame Mitch for running Kobe off, it'd be Jim Buss. I feel for Kobe, and not just because I'm a Kobe fan. It could be Nash, and I'd still feel for him. This organization is a disgrace right now.
     
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    Prior to opening up, Kobe also mentioned he's been training at 4:30am every morning and has been working hard on his defensive techniques.

    What really got me angry were the comments about other players reaching out to Kobe wanting to play with him, only to have those ideas shot down.

    Baron Davis was willing to sign for less money, just to play with Kobe and the Lakers. [​IMG]

    The Warriors landed Baron for a bunch of no names.

    Boozer wanted to be a Laker. Artest wanted to be a Laker. Kobe was asked after the fact what he though about the Butler trade.

    Why are they trading and not-trading for players who actually want to play with Kobe and the franchise and instead going out and getting malcontents like Kwame Brown and Smush Parker?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm telling you, Kupchak doesn't approve anything. Kupchak may like the deal, but he's still got to get it approved by Jim and Jerry.

    That's a positive with Kobe. He has really matured since he was a young punk. This is one of the most mature and calm callout interviews I've heard.

    Phun, not being a Laker fan, what are your impressions of Kobe and the shady Laker organization? Do you think Kobe is justified being pissed off and calling out the organization after a few years of answering questions the politically correct way?</div>If Kupchak/Jim Buss have been planning on doing one thing and telling Kobe something else, then he should ask to be traded right away. That is not a good relationship if they are doing that.

    However, I think Kobe needs something more substantial than using what was said to Phil Jackson on the day he was being fired as proof that there has been a 3-year conspiracy to hide their real intentions from him... I think Davis has been injury prone and Artest I wouldn't want him on my team at all so maybe those were good faith decisions. If they had a legit chance to get Boozer, Lakers fans should be pissed about that one though. As far as what they said to Phil, that is just business - you spin the same story different ways to different people for different goals... but most people would probably react the same way as Kobe does and feel like he's surrounded by 2-faced people.
     
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    Because Jim Buss doesn't want to win now, Jim Buss wants to turn this franchise into his masterpiece. He wants this team to struggle so when he's owner, he can take them from 0 to 100 in a matter of years.

    It's disgusting to know that we've had 3 all stars at our door steps, but we don't even have the time of day to consider a trade. I'm disgusted to be a fan of the Laker organization.
     
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    Good interview by Kobe. This interview showed how much he didn't want Caron to be traded.

    As well how nba players actually hear similar rumours to what we hear. (Boozer, Artest, Baron Davis)

    Wow the interview actually talks about the "Logo Livid with Kobe" article, Kobe doesn't think West is livid with him.

    Really long interview, Kobe's really going indepth. I think the Laker's management telling Phil Jackson one thing and Kobe another, obviously was to let off Phil gently, because he is dating Jeanie Buss. While they wanted to get Kobe back so they tell him what he wants to hear.

    Kobe is pretty confident they are on a long term plan. If they are actually on a long term plan, then I don't know why they wasted 5 mill on old veteran players like Divac, and McKie.

    The whole Laker's management seems disorganized, it seems amazing that they had championship teams with this management.
     
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    VERY impressrive interview by Kobe. I'm glad he's shedding light on all this.
     
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    The more I listen, the more I want to shed some tear man...this whole bull*** crap in the front office is way out of proportion. This is fuk up. Let go trade Kobe! this franchise don't deserves any fans.
     
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    As of right now, this franchise has slapped every single fans face by keeping their plans of mediocrity in the dark. If they would've came out with a subtle statement a while back about not knowing what the future holds or w.e, it would be a little more understandable. Shape said it best, I feel betrayed.
     

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