<div class="quote_poster">The Legend Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That trade would not help LA at all. If they are trying to rebuild they should go for Chicago. Personally, i would hate Kobe to to the Spurs. I hate the Spurs.</div> I'm not a Spurs fan at all, but I'd love to see a matchup of Kobe and Duncan. That's absolutely lethal.
<div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Gordon and Nocioni with fillers would be a nice perspective and a more realistic trade situation. I just don't know about Paxson because he's nuts on giving up any of his "core four." I don't know if he'd be willing to give up Gordon and Nocioni for anyone, but for Bryant he'd have a lot of heat from the fans and media here and likely globally if he passed on that. Time will tell, but I'd be open to it, though I really don't want to lose Nocioni. You will never see Deng and Gordon packaged together.</div> They will and they should. This is Kobe you guys are talking about. The Lakers won't accept anything less of Deng. It works out for both teams. Bulls can compete for championship in a weak conference, and the Lakers have plenty of options to rebuild for the future. BTW, I like to keep Nocioni than Deng if I was the Bulls. Nocioni is a championshp guy, he does the dirty work. The little work like boxing out, give a hard foul, playing tough defense, spot up and make three. Deng is more talanted than Nocioni, no question ask, but he is not a championship player IMO. The same apply to Gorden. He is more talented than Hinrich, but Hinrich is a championship player.
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Everything I've read has said that Kirk and Deng are the only players that Paxon will not give up for anyone. That leaves a plethora of talent for the Lakers to pick from. You obviously ask for Gordon (approx. 4 mil), Nocioni S&T (approx 9 mill), the number 9 and another filler. Even if they don't include the #9, it's still a lot of young talent for the Lakers. They could use the 9 pick to draft a solid big and the 19 pick to draft for a PG Farmar Gordon Nocioni Odom Bynum Chicago would put out Hinrich Kobe Deng Thomas Wallace</div> That's good for both teams, I agree. However, I still put out the information that Paxson is not likely to give up more then one of his "core four." He's explained about that too many times to the local media about that situation when talks were in the works for dozens of other players in trade scenarios. Also, note that the Bulls' number one priority right now is to sign a big man before anything else. I don't know if a trade like this will go through for those two reasons.
You guys should check this trade out. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Deal No. 1: Phoenix trades Shawn Marion, Leandro Barbosa, Marcus Banks and the rights to Atlanta's 2008 first-rounder to the Lakers for Kobe and Radmanovic. Now we're talking! Some of my favorite things about this trade include ? (A) The Lakers ending up with a nucleus of Marion, Odom, Barbosa and Bynum, along with Farmar, Walton, Turiaf and the No. 19 pick, as well as the inevitable Kwame Brown trade to a moronic team that convinces itself that Kwame's career could be salvaged. That's a pretty good foundation. ( Phoenix trotting out a starting lineup of Nash, Kobe, Raja Bell, Amare Stoudemire and Boris Diaw. Good golly. Sweet Jesus. © Radmanovic realizing his manifest destiny of playing in Phoenix. It was meant to be from the moment Mike D'Antoni and Nash teamed up three years ago. (D) Kobe and Raja as teammates. High comedy. The most improbable pairing since Rodman and Pippen 12 years ago. (E) The most selfish player in the league (Kobe) playing with the most unselfish player in the league (Nash). What a fascinating sociological experiment. If Nash can turn Kobe into a team player, I'm voting him for our 2008 president even though he's Canadian. Two potential problems: First, it's unlikely that the Lakers would be dumb enough to trade Kobe within their own division, although with Kupchak involved, anything's possible. And second, assuming that Nash has a say in front-office decisions at this point, would he really want to green-light a scenario that has him managing two enormous egos in Stoudemire and Kobe? Well, lemme throw this at you: What if the Suns then swapped Stoudemire to Minnesota for KG, as I proposed in a May 14 column? That would give them the following crunch-time lineup: Nash, Kobe, Bell, Diaw and KG. Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 World Champions! Just send them the trophy right now. So that's my vote: Black Mamba, you're going to Phoenix to play with KG and Nash. And if it happens, I can guarantee that the 2008 playoffs will be more entertaining than the 2007 playoffs. </div> Nash/Kobe/Bell/Diaw/Amare or better yet Nash/Kobe Bell/Biaw/KG?
I don't think the Lakers would just hand the Suns a championship. It's probably unlikely he'll become a Sun. Do the Lakers want to send him East, or do they just want the best available package?
Let me tell you this the lakers would be fools to trade Kobe to a WC team. im sure he will be giong somewhre east.
My proposition was Gordon, Noch, #9 and our other draft picks. And let me tell you this Pax has a love affair with kobe. he belives he could build a winner around him. This deal works out for both teams. And for those who say the lakers want deng. Why would they want Deng when they have Lamar odem? Neither deng or Odem are bench players so IMO that wouldnt make sence.
When it's all said and done, I'm a firm believer Kobe Bryant will still be in a Laker's uniform this upcoming season, and years to come. Maybe it's just me, but I just can't imagine Kobe outside a Laker's uniform, it seems almost impossible <div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">My proposition was Gordon, Noch, #9 and our other draft picks. And let me tell you this Pax has a love affair with kobe. he belives he could build a winner around him. This deal works out for both teams. And for those who say the lakers want deng. Why would they want Deng when they have Lamar odem? Neither deng or Odem are bench players so IMO that wouldnt make sence.</div> This is probably the best trade scenerio I've seen thus far, and considering the Bulls are a contending team in the East, Kobe would have absolutely no problems playing in Chicago, not to mention he was really interested in signing with Chicago after the 2004 season
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No, Jordan left because Jerry Krause wanted to end their run and begin the rebuilding and not have Chicago suffer the same fate the Celtics endure when Bird and McHale retired. Jordan wanted a chance to bring everyone back for one last run, but when they told him no, he retired.</div> Krause and Jackson, well Krause and anyone didn't get along, but Phil Jackson was not coming back, MJ didn't want to play for another coach, Pippen wanted to be traded to prove himself not being in Jordan's shadow. The other key players would have returned if Jordan himself was ready to roll again. Jordan, one of the most beloved of alltime, made sure his team was always competing, making others around him great. Kobe tried to do it, but he wants to be traded to a better situation because he can't do it on hiw own; he's the one who wanted the chance to win without Shaq. I do like Kobe, and yeah it sucks to always be blamed for stuff, but that's what happens when you're a superstar and are in the light. Kobe Bryant come to Chicago, leave lala land or suck it up in spite of crappy managment carry your team, YOU are the Lakers. I hated the Shaq-Kobe Lakers. Webber n the Kings were awesome, I had to mention that Kings team cuz when I talk bout the Lakers, yuck I hated them with a passion...should be interesting what happens with Kobe...
<div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">My proposition was Gordon, Noch, #9 and our other draft picks. And let me tell you this Pax has a love affair with kobe. he belives he could build a winner around him. This deal works out for both teams. And for those who say the lakers want deng. Why would they want Deng when they have Lamar odem? Neither deng or Odem are bench players so IMO that wouldnt make sence.</div> Because Deng is better than Odom, Odom can play PF and Deng can play SF for them. MY GOSH I would love that trade though, I doubt LA would take it. I wouldn't mind giving up a bit more to snag Kobe. I think Tyrus could be involved, but you're right Gordon def has to be in it. East is just going to get weaker, they need more power to balance the Durant/Oden, kobe could help in a bulls uni, which he would look good in.
But Odem isnt that good at the PF position. You could do it in theory but it wouldnt be a good starting lineup. Odem can play PG but he wont because hes most productive at the 3.
<div class="quote_poster">holyace2k2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Because Deng is better than Odom, Odom can play PF and Deng can play SF for them. MY GOSH I would love that trade though, I doubt LA would take it. I wouldn't mind giving up a bit more to snag Kobe. I think Tyrus could be involved, but you're right Gordon def has to be in it. East is just going to get weaker, they need more power to balance the Durant/Oden, Kobe could help in a bulls uni, which he would look good in.</div> Why trade Gordon, he is gunna be so good. Deng, Hinrich, Gordon. The future top 3. They will be so dominate. Hinrich, I know will improve his game. Gordon and Deng will just keep getting better. To split them up for Kobe, I don't know. Kobe is right now much better then Gordon, but I would Keep Gordon, IMO. and that 9 pick can go toward a PF like Noah or Horford or Hawes. I say keep what the Bulls have, they are young and improving, and IMO Kobe will take away from Deng's game.
<div class="quote_poster">Ford_11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why trade Gordon, he is gunna be so good. Deng, Hinrich, Gordon. The future top 3. They will be so dominate. Hinrich, I know will improve his game. Gordon and Deng will just keep getting better. To split them up for Kobe, I don't know. Kobe is right now much better then Gordon, but I would Keep Gordon, IMO. and that 9 pick can go toward a PF like Noah or Horford or Hawes. I say keep what the Bulls have, they are young and improving, and IMO Kobe will take away from Deng's game.</div> Kobe and Deng would be perfect complimets. As for Gordon, he is by far the most inconsitent player in the NBA, one night he drops 40, next night he has 4. Keeping Hinrich, i would understand. Nochnoi is a spot up shooter, they are easy to come by. If i was Chicago I would not have any 2nd thought about trading for Kobe with Gordon, Nochnoi, #9, and a filler. The attendance for Chicago would just sky rocket, the ratings would go up and you build a contender in the east.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Nochnoi is a spot up shooter</div> I'm not sure if you know much about this player, do you? The man is considered to be one of the most adaptable players in the league. Before he came to the NBA he wasn't much of a three point shooter. It wasn't a part of his original game at all what-so-ever. When asked by the staff to add that to his game he worked hard and now has one of the better three pont shots in the league. These Playoffs are a good exception considering the injury he has in which sometimes inhibited him from walking at all. Andr?s Nocioni is one of the best in the league if not the best at taking charges. He's a player that gets in your head because he will usually beat you to the punch or if you manage to beat him, he'll be on your back to prevent any points scored. That's why the staff in Chicago is high on him and why so many teams would love to have him on their roster. Most trade proposals from other teams usually involved Deng or Nocioni unlike the Memphis scenario which involved Deng and Gordon. Another thing we all love about Andr?s is that he never gets tired and tries to not allow injuries, no matter the severity, prevent him from playing. Only this season have we seen the injuries build up to such a severity that it altered his overall playing ability. He hasn't been himself and now that the Bulls are at a higher stage many people take notice only of his play during this post season, which is very sad. When healthy he's extremely quick and agile. A part of his game I miss as an International follower. Click the link in my signature that reads, "Kevin Garnett got owned by Chapu." A nice small example of his abilities to beat a man and finish strong. That's one of many reasons I want him back in a Bulls uni next season. He'll be back healthy hopefully and continue improving even more. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The attendance for Chicago would just sky rocket, the ratings would go up and you build a contender in the east.</div> Also, I find this funny considering that the Chicago Bulls have the best attendance record this season selling out every home game. Also ranked second the previous two season and in the top five every season since 1999 even when our record was trash. Before that year I need not explain, do I? NBA Attendence records by ESPN
<div class="quote_poster">lakersfan171 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe for Nowitzki will be good. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Di...-?urn=nba,34820</div> That'd be an interesting deal to review.
<div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">the lakers would be fools to trade within the west. but hey we are talking about Kup.</div> Imagine being Kupchak and having his resume. Here's the GM who traded two of the Los Angeles Lakers basketball icons in less than a 10 year span. He's also the GM responsible for trading Caron Butler for Kwame Brown. His draft lowlights include Sasha Vujacic, Brian Cook, and Von Wafer. He was satisfied with And1 reject Smush Parker as the starting point guard for two seasons. Prior to Smush Parker, he had NBADL standout Tierre Brown, and trigger happy Chucky Atkins holding down the starting point guard job for the Purple & Gold. When no one else would give these players a chance Mitch would. Mitch Kupchak's charity work was also reflected in his use of the team's MLE. He aided broken down veteran players on their last legs by handing them out millions of dollars to help pay for their medical bills, sideline tickets to every Laker game, and even included free meals and travel each season. Mitch is a true Saint.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Imagine being Kupchak and having his resume. Here's the GM who traded two of the Los Angeles Lakers basketball icons in less than a 10 year span. He's also the GM responsible for trading Caron Butler for Kwame Brown. His draft lowlights include Sasha Vujacic, Brian Cook, and Von Wafer. He was satisfied with And1 reject Smush Parker as the starting point guard for two seasons. Prior to Smush Parker, he had NBADL standout Tierre Brown, and trigger happy Chucky Atkins holding down the starting point guard job for the Purple & Gold. When no one else would give these players a chance Mitch would. Mitch Kupchak's charity work was also reflected in his use of the team's MLE. He aided broken down veteran players on their last legs by handing them out millions of dollars to help pay for their medical bills, sideline tickets to every Laker game, and even included free meals and travel each season. Mitch is a true Saint.</div> Dont forget that dead weight Mckie LOL!!
