<div class="quote_poster">Ford_11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Gibson is not a steal, I hate when people see a rookie, or a second or third year guy, who has one good game or 2 or one series, and everyone thinks BAM, he is so good and that is a huge steal. </div> Yeah because coming up big in the second biggest series on the NBA calender to what is argubally the second best team in the league isnt impressive Gibson still has a ways to go obviously, but I think he proved in that series that he has a good head on his shoulders, I can definatley see him being a key part of the Cavaliers franchise.
<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I see a lot of what ifs in this thread, lol...imo while I think Dwight Howard will be very good there is a lot of question marks about his offensive scoring ability (that he has yet to improve on), and Bosh is great and the raptors have a good young core, but I don't see them overtaking a healthy Wade or Bron anytime soon in a series....I'll just put it like this if I were a betting man I'd bet that the Cavs and Heat will be the team more than often coming out of the eastern conference in the next 5 years plus....</div> In his defense, when he avgs 11-12 shots a game and 3-4 on offensive rebounds/garbage buckets you don't have much time to show improvements on offense. Brian Hill stalled his development A LOT. No superstar in the league got less looks from the PG and plays drawn up then Dwight did and it is not even close. Even last year he improved dramatically on offense. He is starting to get a couple of post moves, but the lack of consistency in getting him involved took a toll on him. With him likely getting more touches and having a legit player alongside him in Darko rather than Battie, he will avg over 20 ppg. I would certainly want to build around a 22 year old that could potentially avg 20 ppg 12 rpg and 2 bpg. I don't ever see him avg something like 27-30 ppg like Bosh could potentially do, but Bosh also doesn't play defense or rebound the way that Dwight does. He doesn't enforce his will on the game like Dwight does, IMO. Now about the topic. It's way too early to call the Cavs an Eastern conference dynasty. I think if anything it shows that the Pistons are done being a dynasty over the East. A lot can happen in the next 5 years, but in 5 years if everyone keeps the current teams, while building on them, I can see it coming down to Toronto, Orlando, Chicago, and Cleveland with occasional upsets by Charlotte, Atlanta, Milwaukee and Washington. Not to mention what a couple more years of lottery for Boston/Philadelphia could do for their future. It's pretty much a toss up in the East. There are so many young talented players and young talented teams that are getting built in the East right now and all their futures are looking bright in 4-5 years. Honestly I see the Bobcats and Hawks contending for a playoff spot next year.
<div class="quote_poster">NTC Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah because coming up big in the second biggest series on the NBA calender to what is argubally the second best team in the league isnt impressive Gibson still has a ways to go obviously, but I think he proved in that series that he has a good head on his shoulders, I can definatley see him being a key part of the Cavaliers franchise.</div> I do believe that Daniel Gibson will become a great player, and his performance was just amazing (I even made a thread about it in the Cav's forum). But remember Kareem Rush in the 2004 Playoffs against the Timberwolves? The guy caught fire and was sinking three after three after three. Here's the vid: Invalid Video Link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBgT3IikIK8 After watching that game, I really thought the guy was going to be a future piece for the Lakers, but where is he now? Out of the league. All I'm saying is, I wouldn't be THAT surprised if people started to hype Gibson up, and he doesn't live up to that hype. Most of his threes last night were all wide open looks. The Spurs defense will adjust to that, just look at what they did to Barbosa. They got him completely out of rythm for the entire series
That was only one game though, Gibson had a good all round series, and even showed glimpses towards the end of the regular season.
I think Gators said it perfectly. All I've learned from the way the Eastern Conference playoffs ended up is that (1) the Pistons will have to make some changes or risk losing the stranglehold they've had for the past few seasons and (2) there are so many up-and-coming Eastern teams that the top is going to be up for grabs for a while. I can guarantee you though, that if the Cavaliers trot out this lineup 2 or 3 seasons from now, they'll have a hard time getting to the 2nd round. Here's how I'd rank the current East teams, just in terms of their ability to build for the upcoming years (based on cap space, current roster, front office, etc.): 1. Chicago 2. Orlando 3. Toronto 4. Detroit 5. Cleveland 6. Boston 7. Washington 8. Milwaukee Atlanta, Philadelphia, and Charlotte all have a lot of good young talent, but I still have questions about their front offices, so its a case of "I'll believe it when I see it." Indiana, New Jersey, Miami, and New York need to shed contracts and retool a little before they can truly start building a contender.
<div class="quote_poster">Will637 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">When I said dynasty, I didn't exactly mean they were going to win 3 championships in a row, but if they're going to be controlling the east for years and be able to improve every off-season while LeBron James just plays crazy, I think they'll have the best chance in the East to win some championships. The Wizards won't dominate in the playoffs, if they keep playing defense like they have this season. Who knows if Andray Blatche will still be here next year? He'll be a free-agent in the offseason and there are lots of people we need to sign, but I'm hoping he stays. He can be a really good player in the future. With Orlando, if you're going to knock on the Cavs for only having LeBron and nobody else, then you might as well say the same for Dwight and the Magic. The Raptors and the Bulls would have the best chance in fighting for dominance in the East, but we'll see how that works out. I just think that with LeBron being only 22 and leading the Cavaliers to the Finals, you can't deny that this team will only get better and BETTER as the years go by. Obviously I haven't forgotten about the West teams, but strictly I was talking about the Cavs dominating the East.</div> There is a major difference between controlling the east and being a dynasty....a dynasty wins championships. There are too many great up and coming teams for the Cavs to control the east. I'd put my money on Chicago.
<div class="quote_poster">Brian Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I do believe that Daniel Gibson will become a great player, and his performance was just amazing (I even made a thread about it in the Cav's forum). But remember Kareem Rush in the 2004 Playoffs against the Timberwolves? The guy caught fire and was sinking three after three after three. Here's the vid: Invalid Video Link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBgT3IikIK8 After watching that game, I really thought the guy was going to be a future piece for the Lakers, but where is he now? Out of the league. All I'm saying is, I wouldn't be THAT surprised if people started to hype Gibson up, and he doesn't live up to that hype. Most of his threes last night were all wide open looks. The Spurs defense will adjust to that, just look at what they did to Barbosa. They got him completely out of rythm for the entire series</div> I miss Kareem Rush I loved watching that guy play. I thought the Lakers were going to bring him back last season (that was the rumor) it never happened though.
There will be no more dynasties in the NBA. Thats just my opinion of course. I just think the league is too competitive for one team to own a decade in the NBA and win that many titles.
<div class="quote_poster">NTC Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That was only one game though, Gibson had a good all round series, and even showed glimpses towards the end of the regular season.</div> Kareem Rush showed flashes in the regular season as well. I believe he scored 30 points in a regular season game
The Cavs are a one-man team, and as good as Lebron is, he's not going to be able to carry the Cavaliers all season and through the playoffs into a championship or a few like you were calling them a dynasty. Also, the East is way too deep with up-and-coming teams. Yes, the Cavs have Lebron, but other teams such as the Raptors have Bosh & Bargnani arguably 2 franchise players in the future, Bosh already one today. Teams like Chicago are also deep in talent. If anything, I think Cleveland is near the bottom when it comes to dominance in the East in a few years.
