The Most Overrated/Underrated Player Ever Is

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  1. The Dream

    The Dream mama there goes that man!

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    Scottie Pippen



    During the bulls title runs he was overrated by the media who at times referred to him as "2nd best player in the NBA" (I remember reading an article about it in one of the Bulls Sports Illustrated Champion) and I think we all know that is insane. But recently I was having a discussion with some friends about Pippen and they seemed to think that Scottie was "made by Michael". This just isn't true, if anything (to be honest) Scottie made things a lot easier for Michael by being the point forward in the triangle offense, and he also gave Jordans breaks defensively by guarding the other teams best offensive threat. Although I don't think he should've been top 50 (Nique should take his place) I still think that with or without Jordan that the guy would've been a hall of famer and put up hall of fame numbers.


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  2. Skiptomylue11

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    I was actually thinking about saying Scottie Pippen.

    Most Underrated: I'd guess Marbury, Steve Francis, Paul Pierce,
    Past players: maybe Dominique, I dunno

    I'd say those players, just because they are not on winning teams, and although they are still very capable of competing against the top stars.

    Most Overrated: -- No Comment
     
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    I don't have time to go into deep discussion but Paul Pierce is the most under rated superstar in the NBA.
     
  4. Detroit Madness

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    I agree Scottie Pippen would have been a great player regardless of playing with Michael. I was kinda bummed you didn't ask who we thought were the most underated and overated players in the NBA. I'll give a list anways...

    Underrated
    Chris Bosh
    Tayshaun Prince
    Elton Brand
    Paul Pierce
    Rashard Lewis
    Luol Deng

    I'd rather not raise any controversy thats leads off-topic (pippen) or I'd give my overrated list.
     
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    Underrated, I think that KG is going to be in the future. With all these losing seasons i really think that he just gonna be overshadowed by guys like TD and Nash. Another is Karl Malone. The guy is 3rd I believe on the all-time scoring list, yet his name NEVER comes up when talking about all-time great players.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">TheFreshPrince Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Another is Karl Malone. The guy is 3rd I believe on the all-time scoring list, yet his name NEVER comes up when talking about all-time great players.</div>

    2nd. Behind Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

    This season, I can say Deron Williams for sure. Although after these playoffs, not so much.
     
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    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    Out of current NBA players, Shane Battier is criminally underrated. If I'm a GM, and it doesn't matter what team I'm running, I'd always find a spot for him if he's available. Teams always seem to overlook how big a factor he can have without being the leading scorer or making all the highlight plays.

    All-time? I know it got kind of played out in other threads, but I felt that only recently did people think that Tim Duncan was one of the top 10-20 players in NBA history. The dude's so consistent, that we tend to take him for granted. When he retires, I have a feeling he'll be put on a pedestal.
     
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    Underrated players umm...Karl "the Mail Man" Malone.Like many of you have said he is in the top 3 of all-time scoring list and barley you here mention his name another player underrated player is Elton Brand the guy plays great and contributes a lot but has had a crappy seasons with the Clippers and is underrated.
     
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    Overrated:

    Elton Brand - mentally, he's pathetic. He was quoted in an interview after he finally made the playoffs where he said he actually ENJOYED not going to the playoffs cause he liked hanging out on the beach. Kobe doesn't like hanging out on the beach. Even Dirk doesn't like hanging on the beach. But Elton, he likes the beach, that's why his team has been trash for however many seasons.

    Lamar Odom - has a variety of moves. He is praised because he can handle the ball at 6'10". Unfortunately that and $4 will get you a mocha at Starbucks. The guy is a career loser and if he's on your team, you probably aren't going very far.

    Mike Bibby - it must be weird to be the starting point guard for a team for 8 years and to never be the best passer on your team (Webb, Divac, Miller)

    Underrated:

    Jamal Crawford - one of the top 30 scorers in the league and one of the top 10 clutch players; unfairly maligned cause he has been known to take ill-advised shots and his team sucks

    Luke Ridnour - he's an excellent passer, a good shooter, and one of the best pick and roll point guards in the league. MANY teams would be grateful to have him as their starting PG.

    Jacque Vaughn - one of the best defending point guards in the league, he makes the right decisions, he's happy to come off the bench. what's not to love?

    Antonio Daniels - nobody even thinks about him, but he averaged almost 12 assists in the first round against Cleveland. He's also been in the playoffs 8 years straight. He's a very solid player dammit.
     
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    Seconded for Paul Pierce, that guy never gets the credit he deserves. Could very easily finish his career with 30,000 points.
     
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    Overrated... Gary Payton.

    Underrated... this sounds crazy, but I'm gonna say Barkley, simply because with his recent success as the gregarious, overweight TV analyst seems to have made people forget about what sort of player he was. I don't think people remind themselves enough when they see him on TV nowadays that the man they're watching dominated the NBA as a PF six inches undersized, and might be the best rebounder pound for pound in NBA history. Barkley is in my top ten all time, and I don't think he gets quite the respect he deserves.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Montaman Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Overrated... Gary Payton.

    Underrated... this sounds crazy, but I'm gonna say Barkley, simply because with his recent success as the gregarious, overweight TV analyst seems to have made people forget about what sort of player he was. I don't think people remind themselves enough when they see him on TV nowadays that the man they're watching dominated the NBA as a PF six inches undersized, and might be the best rebounder pound for pound in NBA history. Barkley is in my top ten all time, and I don't think he gets quite the respect he deserves.</div>

    Geez, I was just looking at his career stats, and I never realized how dominant he was, period. Career averages of 22ppg, 11rpg, and he was dominant right up until he retired, averaging 14ppg, 10rpg in his final season. I never realized he played alongside Hakeem Olajuwon either... I guess that shows just how out of touch I am with my 90's basketball, hahaha.

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    Barkley was an absolute beast. Possibly the best example of a force of will on a basketball court I can think of... I remember reading something Bill Walton said about Barkley, that he was like Larry Bird in that he didn't really play a position, he just played basketball, and there was nothing he couldn't do. He could pass, shoot, lead the break, get a steal, finish at the rim... and he was a fun loving guy who would just as soon sit around eating cake and ice cream as go to the gym. What's not to love?
     
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    most overrated: steve nash

    most underrated: elton brand
     
  15. Legacy

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    Paul Pierce and Shawn Marion are two players that are extremely underrated. An overrated player is <u>Dirk Nowitzki</u>. Yes, you heard me correctly.
     
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    Barkley and KG are quite underrated because they didn't have the kind of team success that the media asks from it's stars (I also think Karl Malone gets a bit more attention than Barkley as a player, but that is just splitting hairs anyway).

    As for overrated, that would have to be Nash (he doesn't cut it empirically speaking). People are absolutely obsessed with APG and stylish-offensive oriented basketball, which has diluted many minds of NBA fans.
     
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    I totally agree that nash is overrated based on his accomplishments. He was just the best of a lot weak MVP candidates. Skill based I really don't think people realize what a sick shooter he is, and how easily he gets into the lane and gets his assists. He is truly one of the greatest pg imo. If he could play really good defense i would have him over stockton. Too bad he doesn't, but he is definately a better offensive pg than stockton imo
     
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    LOL, the thread was supposed to be about Scottie Pippen, hahaha.
     
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    lmao, I'm sorry. I thought this was a thread about Most Overrated players and Most Underrated players, now I understand that it was about a player (Pippen) who was at one point Most Overrated and at another point Most Underrated.
     
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    Underrated - Tim Duncan (more underappreciated really)
    Overrated - Kobe Bryant
     

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