If we "HAD" to TRADE Kobe Bryant. Here were some possible trade scenarios I found interesting. I actually thought the Portland and Washington trades looked pretty promising for our franchise. Here they are: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Portland. The trade: Bryant, center Andrew Bynum ($2.17 million) and the Lakers' 2007 first-round pick to the Blazers for forward Zach Randolph ($13.3 million), guard Martell Webster ($2.97 million), guard Fred Jones ($3.3 million), guard Sergio Rodriguez ($980,400), the Trail Blazers' 2007 first-round pick (first overall), and two of Portland's 2007 second-round picks (37th and 42d overall). The reasoning: This would define "blockbuster," no? If the Lakers are giving up the league's most dominant player, they have every right to ask for Greg Oden. Of course, Portland's new general manager, Kevin Pritchard, would be drawn and quartered, but Pritchard is not afraid to take big risks. Having LaMarcus Aldridge and Brandon Roy around makes Bynum's immediate development less crucial while still giving Kobe a better supporting cast than he has in L.A. </div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Washington. The trade: Bryant and forward Maurice Evans ($1.5 million) to the Wizards for guard Gilbert Arenas ($11.9 million), guard Antonio Daniels ($5.8 million), center Brendan Haywood ($5 million), the rights to guard Juan Carlos Navarro, and Washington's 2007 and 2010 first-round picks (the 2007 pick is the 16th overall). The reasoning: Obviously, there's no deal if Arenas doesn't make a full recovery from his knee injury. Assuming he does, the L.A. native has the kind of sizzle (such as when he dropped 60 on the Lakers last season) that might - might - be able to sell some tickets there. Navarro may be the best guard in Europe, but he's hung up by a large buyout. Bryant loved playing with Caron Butler and hated seeing Butler dealt for Kwame Brown two years ago. </div> There were a couple more trades involving Phoenix, Utah, and Philly. SOURCE: Philly.com
I would trade to Kobe to Portland for Oden. If Kobe is to be traded, I would rather acquire someone like Oden who I can build a franchise around.
Wow it's a good thing this writer isn't GM of the Blazers or Wizards. Those are horrible trades for those teams that seriously overvalue Kobe. The Wizards one would never happen and the Portland one is downright laughable. You're talking about the most promising center since SHAQUILLE AND Zach Randolph AND Sergio Rodriguez for Kobe and the average Bynum? excuse me while i die laughing.
No way that happens. The first round pick alone is enough to get Kobe. It's been noted that the only player portland will trade the pick for is LeBron James. I'm assuming thats only because he's a lot younger than Kobe. But Randolph and the number one and martell webster and sergio and 2 picks? Thats ridiculous.
<div class="quote_poster">ilive4ball Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">But Randolph and the number one and martell webster and sergio and 2 picks? Thats ridiculous.</div> Agreed. Even if you take the number one pick out of the deal, it's still questionable. People forget how good Zach Randolph is and assume he's cheap trade bait just because he's got a bad attitude. The guy averaged 23.7 ppg and 10.1 rpg while shooting 82% from the line (a very valuable skill for a big man), yet people are talking about him as if Portland's willing to just throw him away. Martell Webster also has a hell of a future in this league. Just because he hasn't produced much in the past two years doesn't mean that he's not going to later on in his career. A lot of people put too much pressure on these high school to the pro's kids and forget that it took guys like Tracy McGrady, Jermaine O'Neal, and Kobe Bryant a while before they got adjusted to the higher level of play, and while guys like LeBron James occassionally come around, players who make the leap from high school to the pro's don't really develop until about their third or fourth year in the league, if not later. Martell Webster's only 20 years old, he's built like an NFL lineman, and he's one of the best long distance shooters in the entire league. I still like his potential very much.
<div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Wow it's a good thing this writer isn't GM of the Blazers or Wizards. Those are horrible trades for those teams that seriously overvalue Kobe. The Wizards one would never happen and the Portland one is downright laughable. You're talking about the most promising center since SHAQUILLE AND Zach Randolph AND Sergio Rodriguez for Kobe and the average Bynum? excuse me while i die laughing.</div> If it had to happen, i agree with that trade. Or to Chicago. You say one of the most promising centers since Shaq right? Well Kobe has proven he can be in the talk for one of the greatest players ever. Don't take this as another Kobe over Jordan thing. I said, he has proven and could be one of the greatest players to ever play the game. To me and most people he has already proven he is the greatest scorer of all time. A player of that caliber for the #1 pick does not sound laughable.
<div class="quote_poster">The Legend Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If it had to happen, i agree with that trade. Or to Chicago. You say one of the most promising centers since Shaq right? Well Kobe has proven he can be in the talk for one of the greatest players ever. Don't take this as another Kobe over Jordan thing. I said, he has proven and could be one of the greatest players to ever play the game. To me and most people he has already proven he is the greatest scorer of all time. A player of that caliber for the #1 pick does not sound laughable.</div> It's not just the #1 pick though, the Blazers still have to give up young talented prospects in Sergio Rodriguez and Martell Webster. Not to mention they must also throw in border line All-Star Zach Randolph and role player Fred Jones. Not to mention future second round picks. That's basically saying, "We're going to throw away our entire future, and pretty much our entire roster for Kobe Bryant." Yes, that is way too much for the Blazers to give up for one player, even if it is Kobe. Not to mention Andrew Bynum still has yet to prove himself in the league
<div class="quote_poster">Brian Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It's not just the #1 pick though, the Blazers still have to give up young talented prospects in Sergio Rodriguez and Martell Webster. Not to mention they must also throw in border line All-Star Zach Randolph and role player Fred Jones. Not to mention future second round picks. That's basically saying, "We're going to throw away our entire future, and pretty much our entire roster for Kobe Bryant." Yes, that is way too much for the Blazers to give up for one player, even if it is Kobe. Not to mention Andrew Bynum still has yet to prove himself in the league</div> Exactly. If that trade went down, would Kobe be able to win any more games with the Blazers than he was able to win with the Lakers this season? His supporting cast would be Brandon Roy, Travis Outlaw, and Jarrett Jack instead of Lamar Odom, Luke Walton, and Smush Parker. If anything, that's a downgrade. Now, if you want to take Martell Webster, Sergrio Rodriguez, and the picks out of it, and then you add maybe a future first rounder on Los Angeles' part, then you might have a legitimate offer. Something that looks like this - Lakers Send - Kobe Bryant, Andrew Bynum, Kwame Brown, their first round pick, and a future first round pick. Blazers Send - Greg Oden, Zach Randolph
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Exactly. If that trade went down, would Kobe be able to win any more games with the Blazers than he was able to win with the Lakers this season? His supporting cast would be Brandon Roy, Travis Outlaw, and Jarrett Jack instead of Lamar Odom, Luke Walton, and Smush Parker. If anything, that's a downgrade. Now, if you want to take Martell Webster, Sergrio Rodriguez, and the picks out of it, and then you add maybe a future first rounder on Los Angeles' part, then you might have a legitimate offer. Something that looks like this - Lakers Send - Kobe Bryant, Andrew Bynum, Kwame Brown, their first round pick, and a future first round pick. Blazers Send - Greg Oden, Zach Randolph</div> You call that a legitimate offer? There is so many frauds in that trade that will never work. Salary-wise alone is one of them. Second, it is like trading MJ + top 5 pick (if Bynum is in this year draft) + Kwame Brown for basically one unproven player who hasn't done crap in this league and already people put him at the level of a superstar, and a one dimensional player in Zach Randolph who has a problem. If he is that good, Blazers wouldn't trade him. Simple as that. I rather trade Bynum, Kwame for J-kidd or JO and still able to keep Kobe and LO intact.
New to the forum. Been a Laker fan for 15 years.The Kobe trades id consider would be Trade 1 - Amare , Barbosa 1# pick from Atlanta Trade 2 - Luol Deng ,Ben Wallace ,Ben Gordon 1# pick which is at 9 Trade 3 - PJ Brown (resigned) Luol Deng ,Ben Gordon 1# pick That way the Bulls keep Ben Wallace. Those are deals id consider.
<div class="quote_poster">CrazyHops Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">New to the forum. Been a Laker fan for 15 years.The Kobe trades id consider would be Trade 1 - Amare , Barbosa 1# pick from Atlanta Trade 2 - Luol Deng ,Ben Wallace ,Ben Gordon 1# pick which is at 9 Trade 3 - PJ Brown (resigned) Luol Deng ,Ben Gordon 1# pick That way the Bulls keep Ben Wallace. Those are deals id consider.</div> PG: Barbosa/Farmar SG: Walton/Evans SF: Odom/Cook PF: Amare/Turiaf C: Kwame/Bynum PG: Jordan Farmar // Sasha Vujajic SG: Ben Gordon // Mo Evans SF: Luol Deng // Luke Walton PF: Lamar Odom // Kwame Brown // Turiaf C: Ben Wallace // Andrew Bynum
<div class="quote_poster">CrazyHops Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">New to the forum. Been a Laker fan for 15 years.The Kobe trades id consider would be Trade 1 - Amare , Barbosa 1# pick from Atlanta Trade 2 - Luol Deng ,Ben Wallace ,Ben Gordon 1# pick which is at 9 Trade 3 - PJ Brown (resigned) Luol Deng ,Ben Gordon 1# pick That way the Bulls keep Ben Wallace. Those are deals id consider.</div> No offense, but those are some seriously delusional ideas.
<div class="quote_poster">CrazyHops Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">New to the forum. Been a Laker fan for 15 years.The Kobe trades id consider would be Trade 1 - Amare , Barbosa 1# pick from Atlanta Trade 2 - Luol Deng ,Ben Wallace ,Ben Gordon 1# pick which is at 9 Trade 3 - PJ Brown (resigned) Luol Deng ,Ben Gordon 1# pick That way the Bulls keep Ben Wallace. Those are deals id consider.</div> No offense, but those are some seriously delusional ideas, especially number 2. The only way the Bulls would consider that would be if you threw in Lamar AND Bynum. Even then I doubt they would do it.
My roommate's a big Lakers fan suggested a trade that I found funny (being a Raptors fan myself) Kobe for Chris Bosh and Rasho (with fillers to make it work) As a Rap I personally wouldnt do this, we'd be far far far to weak up front
I haven't even chuckled yet, it's more a shocked disbelief. I don't think the whole Oden being the best center to come out since Shaq to be fair, because Oden is completely opposite of Shaq. He's a soft spoken, hard working, dedicated, intelligent, and a genuine character. I think that's pretty opposite of Shaq. The way I look at it is this, knowing what I know about how the players developed, and acting as a rebuilding franchise with plethora of talented young players there is no way I would trade a 20 year old: Duncan, Robinson, Russell, Olajuwon, Jabbar, Chamberlain, Ewing, and/or Moses/Karl Malone. For a 28 or 29 year old Kobe Bryant. Not to mention the fact you'd be dismantling your roster by giving up Randolph/Rodriguez/Webster/Jones. I mean, for me, it's mind boggling to even entertain the idea of pulling the trigger on that trade as Portland. Especially considering the fact I wouldn't pull the trigger on Oden/Kobe straight up. The only deal that makes a lick of sense is the one VC suggested.
Kobe isn't going anywhere. The Lakers will take a huge financial crisis if they indeed trade Kobe without receiving a marque player back. The reason the Lakers appear on national television is because of Kobe.
Agreed Kobe isn't going anywhere, but i find it very funny that lakers fans think that they can get guys like JO and Kidd without Lamar. Bynum hasn't proven anything yet. If anything he proved that he isn't ready yet after last year. And kwame is an average center, nothing more. He is not gonna get any better. Plus even with trading LO, he isn't THAT good. He still hasn't even been an all-star if i'm correct.
