<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>I'm a big Favre fan and I think he can still play at a high level. I look at Rich Gannon and I think that Favre could be that kind of game manager if he re-trained himself. Physically, he can play the game. There's no doubt about it. He has the arm and the accuracy, but he absolutely has to abandon the gunslinger mentality. McCarthy is trying to train him to do just that. Manage the game. Make good throws. Throw the ball away when you have to. Don't be a hero...</div> I am not saying McCarthy can't, but, just look at how much it took Holmgren took "change" Brett. I agree that Favre can play at a high level. You really can't change who/what you are psychologically . I hate to bring up the comparisons to Marino again but who even comes close (Peyton in about 5 or so years). In fact, I can hear some GB fans grumbling. Seriously, Marino tried to adapt to Jimmy's style and we all know how well that turned out. Dan, eventually, came to realize that not only couldn't he completely change his spots so to speak. Marino knew he could no longer compete physically at the same level he had in the past. The difference being Dan @ 75% physically was still better than 20 other starting QB's IMO. Favre having reverted to his old ways is a middle of the (pardon the pun) pack QB. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'> If Favre can adopt his playing style to that methodology...</div> Never has one small word carried so much weight. p.s. Is it really a good thing to have some in such a high profile position in Wisconsin named McCarthy?
Hes a great qb a hall of famer for sure.. but he just cant take the team he has now to the superbowl its just not possible i believe he should of retired his body has taken too many hits especially hits that people like strahan would give to him(joke) final verdict... hall of famer qb yes one of the best 5 in the league now No.
Team's will always have their homers (except for the Bills - they are all objective), and people who haven't been around football for a while tend to be a little less objective than others. I think on this board we have a good foundation of knowledgable football fans who have been around for some time, realize that even great players decline, and are able to criticize when criticism is deserved. Favre is what he is - he's a player on the decline who is going down swinging. He has earned praise, rightfully so, and appreciation. The media loves him and GB fans have every right to consider him one of their greatest players ever. Put Favre on any other team for his career and I think you will see the exact same thing as is happening to GB fans now. When you have a legend like Favre, you don't want to see anything tarnish that career - even age.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>Team's will always have their homers (except for the Bills - they are all objective),</div> ROFLMAO <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>Favre is what he is</div> Very Zen, VF.
I despise that phrase. It is what it is Probably b/c at the car dealership the salesman used it a half dozen times in reference to the trade in value of my old car. :stupid:
Here is my take of Favre. He was a great, if not one of the greatest QBs in NFL history. He led his team to many superbowls (three I believe). And we all know that last year wasn't his best season. But when you throw in what was happening during the season/after the season. Plagued by injuries, a new coach coming in, the fact that your team is now in the rebuilding phase, and your career is officially in the downfall. It's time to call it quits. I know how hard it may be to retire with a team you have been with for a really long time. But hey, it is what it is. You can always come back to the franchise, just as a offensive coordinator or whatever. But when he took so long to make the decision and the whole media questioning his status for the '07 season, I was pretty annoyed. Kind of like what the whole media is doing to TO and I get kinda... how do I say this without getting the wrong meaning, turned off. So I tend to make negative remarks on him. But now that he is still playing, I hope he tries his best to make most of what he has left and to hope he makes it memorable for the fans of Green Bay and won't hesitate about calling it quits when the season is over.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>But hey, it is what it is</div> i just went over how I hated that phrase lol
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>But hey, it is what it is</div> i just went over how I hated that phrase lol</div> No worries - that phrase will be whatever it will be. Just let life come to you as it is. Accept the now as is, and the will be as to be. ...these words inspired by Phil Jackson
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>But hey, it is what it is</div> i just went over how I hated that phrase lol</div> No worries - that phrase will be whatever it will be. Just let life come to you as it is. Accept the now as is, and the will be as to be. ...these words inspired by Phil Jackson</div> What? Are Buddha and/or Confucius are too highbrow 4 ya? LOL.
I don't hate Favre, but it doesn't help a player's image with me when he becomes untouchable. I thought Favre was wrong for not backing Javon Walker last year and I felt that if he had been any other QB that he would have been called out for it. I also think that when people assume Favre can just turn off the interceptions that he was throwing last year, they aren't being very objective. It's not just Favre though. I didn't like Joe Montana during the end of his 49er days. The press and fans couldn't kiss his butt enough. It was as though Montana won those four Super Bowls on his own. Once Montana left San Fran for Kansas City, I could get behind him because it took some of the media glare off of him and 49er fans weren't talking about him so much. Of course, I liked Clyde Drexler better than Michael Jordan and that probably had a lot to do with the media and over zealous fans as well.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I didn't like Joe Montana during the end of his 49er days. The press and fans couldn't kiss his butt enough. It was as though Montana won those four Super Bowls on his own. Once Montana left San Fran for Kansas City, I could get behind him because it took some of the media glare off of him and 49er fans weren't talking about him so much. Of course, I liked Clyde Drexler better than Michael Jordan and that probably had a lot to do with the media and over zealous fans as well.</div> It's official, Dale. You and I are the same person.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>I don't hate Favre, but it doesn't help a player's image with me when he becomes untouchable. I thought Favre was wrong for not backing Javon Walker last year and I felt that if he had been any other QB that he would have been called out for it. I also think that when people assume Favre can just turn off the interceptions that he was throwing last year, they aren't being very objective. It's not just Favre though. I didn't like Joe Montana during the end of his 49er days. The press and fans couldn't kiss his butt enough. It was as though Montana won those four Super Bowls on his own. Once Montana left San Fran for Kansas City, I could get behind him because it took some of the media glare off of him and 49er fans weren't talking about him so much. Of course, I liked Clyde Drexler better than Michael Jordan and that probably had a lot to do with the media and over zealous fans as well.</div> Except Michael is the greatest of all time. You must love him! Ask ahmad rashad, he will tell you.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I didn't like Joe Montana during the end of his 49er days. The press and fans couldn't kiss his butt enough. It was as though Montana won those four Super Bowls on his own. Once Montana left San Fran for Kansas City, I could get behind him because it took some of the media glare off of him and 49er fans weren't talking about him so much. Of course, I liked Clyde Drexler better than Michael Jordan and that probably had a lot to do with the media and over zealous fans as well.</div> It's official, Dale. You and I are the same person.</div> Does that mean BF1 and I are the same person yet different? ROFL. I liked Joe Montana. Its his successor that irritated me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I didn't like Joe Montana during the end of his 49er days. The press and fans couldn't kiss his butt enough. It was as though Montana won those four Super Bowls on his own. Once Montana left San Fran for Kansas City, I could get behind him because it took some of the media glare off of him and 49er fans weren't talking about him so much. Of course, I liked Clyde Drexler better than Michael Jordan and that probably had a lot to do with the media and over zealous fans as well.</div> It's official, Dale. You and I are the same person.</div> Does that mean BF1 and I are the same person yet different? ROFL. I liked Joe Montana. Its his successor that irritated me.</div> So . . . would that make me a conspiracy sniper or a literary theorist?
