Make Rim Bigger for higher shooting %?

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  1. Ming637

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    Rick Carlisle on ESPN fastbreak just suggested that if the rim was about an inch or inch and half bigger in diameter, we would easily be having 100 point scoring games. Do you guys think this is worth it for more entertaining games, or does is it just take away the worth and ethic the defensive-first teams have?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Will637 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Rick Carlisle on ESPN fastbreak just suggested that if the rim was about an inch or inch and half bigger in diameter, we would easily be having 100 point scoring games. Do you guys think this is worth it for more entertaining games, or does is it just take away the worth and ethic the defensive-first teams have?</div>

    This would make a lot more players offensive minded, and we would see more players getting 50 point games. The game would become a mess with Kobe-like chuckers all over the league.
     
  3. GArenas

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    If they did decide to raise the size of the rim then it would result in alot more scoring, obviousely. What i'm wondering is not what happens to the slow, defensive minded teams, but what happens to the Washington Wizards, Golden State Warriors, and Pheonix Suns? Will they be scoring 120+ points per game and will this turn the league into a fastbreak team. Too many questions surrounding the idea of raising the size of a rim to actually do it.
     
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    This would be one of the worst ideas in league history. It would ruin everything that all the older players accomplished. All the scoring records would get demolished. Why on earth would they do this? The rim has always been the same size.
     
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    Nope. Leave it at 10ft. It's fine how it is.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">NTC Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nope. Leave it at 10ft. It's fine how it is.</div>

    They are talking about increasing the diameter of the rim. Increasing how large the rim is itself. So the hole is bigger.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">TheFreshPrince Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">This would be one of the worst ideas in league history. It would ruin everything that all the older players accomplished. All the scoring records would get demolished. Why on earth would they do this? The rim has always been the same size.</div>

    [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">TheFreshPrince Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">This would be one of the worst ideas in league history. It would ruin everything that all the older players accomplished. All the scoring records would get demolished. Why on earth would they do this? The rim has always been the same size.</div>

    Pretty much agree with all of this. Scoring is probably as good now as its been since late 80's with so many guards averaging nearly 30 ppg, lots of guards getting 50 points games. Teams can score a ton if they want, look at Phoenix, Golden State, Denver, etc. plus you've got a lot of bad teams in the top 10 in scoring in the league. That proves that you don't need much talent to score a lot of points, it also proves that a high scoring team isn't more interesting to the viewer by default. I'm sure most fans would rather watch Houston, Cleveland, Chicago, etc. instead of the Grizz, Kings, or Bucks even though the latter 3 are top 10 in the league in scoring.

    The teams that are high scoring but also winners actually play decent defense. Phoenix and Denver are 14 and 15 respectively in Opponent FG% and Golden State is 19th while leading the league in TOs forced, second in the league in blocked shots, and leading by far in steals. Of course these teams are in the middle of the road in opponent FG% but considering how many high percentage shots are available in their style of game its fairly impressive that none of them are in the bottom 10 in the league. These teams are fun to watch for your average NBA fan but if they played horrible defense they wouldn't win games and no one would care about them.

    Most teams want to go with the slow it down, pound the ball gameplan because thats what wins championships. Individual teams don't care what the ratings are, they just want to win and a majority of coaches around the league want a halfcourt style game. Trying to change the scoring will still let the Phoenix's and Golden States' be the most "exciting" to watch and the Spurs boring, the only changes will be that the running teams will score 150 a game while the Spurs score 110 a game.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Marbire Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">They are talking about increasing the diameter of the rim. Increasing how large the rim is itself. So the hole is bigger.</div>

    Oh right, I see, hahaha.

    I still say No.
     
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    Let's also make the rim lower so more people can dunk. Let's make the court shorter so players look faster.

    I can't believe he made this suggestion. Player's are shooting a lower percentage because their skill levels are not up to spec anymore. The mid-range game has disappeared, not much passing the ball from sideline to sideline and we see more isolation plays.
     
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    ^^^agreed......the rim doesn't need fixing, the players do......
     
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    What a stupid idea, it might be even dumber then ideas of Kobe being traded. The rims the fine, they already tried changing the ball, and that didn't work, so why mess with the rims, players will complain, it's unavoidable.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Let's also make the rim lower so more people can dunk. Let's make the court shorter so players look faster.

    I can't believe he made this suggestion. Player's are shooting a lower percentage because their skill levels are not up to spec anymore. The mid-range game has disappeared, not much passing the ball from sideline to sideline and we see more isolation plays.</div>

    Maybe they should hire the age limit in the draft, so kids can go to college to learn how to run offense [​IMG] It's playing college ball that teaches these kids how to run offense effectively. In HS, most of the coaches run isolation plays for their star players because no one can stop them. How many times do you see an iso for a player in college? Only time I ever remember seeing that happen was Salim Stoudamire and Channing Frye did a pick n' roll, after they cleared one side for them, in the whining seconds of the Oklahoma St. Sweet 16 game few years ago. That's the one Salim Stoudamire shot that one the game if you didn't know [​IMG]
     
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    If im a current NBA player doing that would be a smack in the face.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">J_Ray Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Maybe they should hire the age limit in the draft, so kids can go to college to learn how to run offense</div>
    Hey, I want to hire the age limit. I'm short on money, but you have any idea how much it would cost?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">J_Ray Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Maybe they should hire the age limit in the draft, so kids can go to college to learn how to run offense</div>
    Hey, I want to hire the age limit. I'm short on money, but you have any idea how much it would cost?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">J_Ray Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Maybe they should hire the age limit in the draft, so kids can go to college to learn how to run offense [​IMG] It's playing college ball that teaches these kids how to run offense effectively. In HS, most of the coaches run isolation plays for their star players because no one can stop them. How many times do you see an iso for a player in college? Only time I ever remember seeing that happen was Salim Stoudamire and Channing Frye did a pick n' roll, after they cleared one side for them, in the whining seconds of the Oklahoma St. Sweet 16 game few years ago. That's the one Salim Stoudamire shot that one the game if you didn't know [​IMG]</div>

    NBA players are already forced to go to college one year before the NBA. Besides, I don't think that the relatively new draft rules will improve shooting percentages much. Shapecity pretty much hit the nail on the coffin.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">GArenas Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">NBA players are already forced to go to college one year before the NBA.</div>

    It's only been like that for a year or 2 right? Before you could come straight from HS.
     
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    No, it's fine how it is.
     
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    Forget making the rim bigger, the nba should make the basketball really negatively charged and make the rim into a very strong positive electromagnet in order to attract the ball and increase FG%.
     

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