So now what?

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  1. bronbron23

    bronbron23 JBB JustBBall Member

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    I seriously think we need to shake up the roster a little.
    My main complaint is Larry Hughes I like him as a player but he's too inconsistent and seems not to be able to last a season let alone into the playoffs. Any ideas on who could replace him or any other players we should bring to the team or chuck out?
     
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    Gotta try to find a way of getting rid of Larry Hughes, I think. Promote Shannon Brown to at least 15 - 20 mpg. Veteran leadership from the point, with Gibson off the bench. And then we need a good draft pick, and a steal at that.
     
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    Apollo JBB Into The Fire

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    You guys should work on only getting better now. Use more of Gibson and Brown next year, lose Larry Hughes, maybe get some decent 3 point shooters to help out LeBron when he drives to the hoop etc., just work on getting better.
     
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    Go hard at Mike Bibby and land a big man (possibly a young one through the draft?) then this team can truley be a contender.
     
  5. bronbron23

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    Yeh I agree with the need for a consistent reliable and proven 3 shooter. What is the best way for getting rid of Hughes and who will take him? Damn I wish Allen or Redd would have signed instead of Hughes!
    Could we trade up and get a good pick?
     
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    ya'lls main prority should be gettin rid of Varejos dumbass, for tryin to be the hero of game 3. lmao
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">The Walrus Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">ya'lls main prority should be gettin rid of Varejos dumbass, for tryin to be the hero of game 3. lmao</div>

    Nah no way man, unless some nice trade came along Varejo is a great bench player and fan favourite
     
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    yeah i know im jp.
    on the serious side though, id say get bibby or kidd. and somehow use hughes as trade bait.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">bronbron23 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeh I agree with the need for a consistent reliable and proven 3 shooter. What is the best way for getting rid of Hughes and who will take him? Damn I wish Allen or Redd would have signed instead of Hughes!
    Could we trade up and get a good pick?</div>

    It's quite hard to trade up, seeing as we don't have a pick, but perhaps Larry Hughes could be part of a deal to get us a decent pick. Perhaps trying to get a player like Belinelli in the Draft would be ideal, as he can shoot the ball well, and can drive to the hoop. He would probably share minutes with Shannon Brown, which gives us lots of potential at the 2. Other potential players to pick are Nick Young and Rudy Fernandez.
     
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    Sign Chauncey Billups. He solves your point guard problem, your three point shooting problem, becomes the second option on offense, and, since LeBron handles the ball so often, his career will be extended with less wear and tear.
     
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    I don't know how we'd do it, seeing as we have no cap space. All we have is the MLE, which won't cover it. Unless there can be a sign and trade featuring Larry Hughes, but why would Detroit want Hughes?
     
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    The way I see it, this roster needs a massive makeover. IMO you guys need to get rid of Zydrunas, Larry, Gooden and also Marshall. Those guys just aren't cutting it, imo, Gooden will probably have a little bit of weight on the market, but I don't really think many teams will be willing to take on Big Z, Hughes, and Marshall.

    I just don't think this team is really going anywhere (by going I mean getting a ring) with those guys supporting James.
     
  13. bronbron23

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    <div class="quote_poster">rafy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The way I see it, this roster needs a massive makeover. IMO you guys need to get rid of Zydrunas, Larry, Gooden and also Marshall. Those guys just aren't cutting it, imo, Gooden will probably have a little bit of weight on the market, but I don't really think many teams will be willing to take on Big Z, Hughes, and Marshall.

    I just don't think this team is really going anywhere (by going I mean getting a ring) with those guys supporting James.</div>

    I disagree with getting rid of Z and Gooden and perhaps if Marshall was a starter I wouldn't want him on the team, the reason I say this is because I don't really see any better C's or PF's that would be contributing more than what Z and Gooden do already. However hughes I can agree with you I want him out or off the bench. Why I say off the bench is because it seems he can't last a season maybe if he was coming off the bench he would be able to handle it, but I'm guessing Larry Hughes thinks he's too big to get "demoted" and begin coming off the bench, so a more realistic option is too trade him for a PG I would love Bibby or Billups and with Carlos Delfino making his way to toronto maybe Detroit want another SG but then again Dumars has said his priority is to get Billups back so I don't see it happening so maybe Bibby is more realistic.

    I know a lot of Cav fans want to see Shannon Brown get more minutes as do I, but is Mike Brown just going to start playing him?
     
  14. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    <div class="quote_poster">bronbron23 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I disagree with getting rid of Z and Gooden and perhaps if Marshall was a starter I wouldn't want him on the team, the reason I say this is because I don't really see any better C's or PF's that would be contributing more than what Z and Gooden do already. However hughes I can agree with you I want him out or off the bench. Why I say off the bench is because it seems he can't last a season maybe if he was coming off the bench he would be able to handle it, but I'm guessing Larry Hughes thinks he's too big to get "demoted" and begin coming off the bench, so a more realistic option is too trade him for a PG I would love Bibby or Billups and with Carlos Delfino making his way to toronto maybe Detroit want another SG but then again Dumars has said his priority is to get Billups back so I don't see it happening so maybe Bibby is more realistic.

    I know a lot of Cav fans want to see Shannon Brown get more minutes as do I, but is Mike Brown just going to start playing him?</div>

    I agree with the sentiments on the frontcourt. The Cavs actually have one of the more solid frontcourts in the NBA with all things considered. Individually, you can really nitpick about Big Z, Gooden, Marshall, and Varejao, but collectively as a unit, they're about as solid of a frontcourt as there is.

    I also agree on Shannon Brown. I'd love to see him get that playing time more than anyone, but I think that if the reasons for him not playing were purely decisions made by the management or the coaching staff, then a roster shake-up won't do him any good, unless he's on the outgoing end of that shake-up.

    Really, what Cleveland needs is a new point guard, like you were saying they should trade for. Eric Snow would have been the perfect compliment to LeBron James' game, but at this stage in his career, he's better off coaching LeBron from the sidelines. Gibson's a great scorer, but he's one-dimensional as a point and probably shouldn't be trusted running the Cavaliers' offense. He's really more of a small two-guard than a point, and his decision making and control of the tempo are still both very lacking.

    Forget Chauncey Billups and Mike Bibby though. The Cavaliers need a point guard who's not going to take shots away from LeBron but will rather take the pressure of running the offense off of his shoulders. Of course, it's always good to have another guard on the court who can knock down the open looks when LeBron is doubled, but it's more important to have a distributer who can find LeBron in places to score in a way that Gibson lacks the courtvision to.

    How about Jason Kidd? His name seems to keep coming up in trade rumors, and apparently the Nets were just about ready to let him go for Andrew Bynum, so maybe if the Cavaliers packaged Larry Hughes together with maybe Shannon Brown, a future pick, and Eric Snow (for cap purposes), then a deal can be done to get Mr. Triple Double in a Cavs uni. Even though Kidd's thirty-four years old, he proved last season that he's still one of the top two or three point guards in the game and hasn't been effected by his knee injury the way people thought he would be.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
    How about Jason Kidd? His name seems to keep coming up in trade rumors, and apparently the Nets were just about ready to let him go for Andrew Bynum, so maybe if the Cavaliers packaged Larry Hughes together with maybe Shannon Brown, a future pick, and Eric Snow (for cap purposes), then a deal can be done to get Mr. Triple Double in a Cavs uni. Even though Kidd's thirty-four years old, he proved last season that he's still one of the top two or three point guards in the game and hasn't been effected by his knee injury the way people thought he would be.</div>

    I really like the idea of Kidd coming to Cleveland, but as you said NJ were about to trade for Bynum, who's biggest trade reason is potential, which makes me think why would they trade for Hughes who doesn't offer potential like Bynum does. Also if Kidd were to leave then it would be likely that Carter would leave IMO and then you have Jefferson, Kristic and Hughes if you do the deal which isn't that incredible unless NJN are looking to rebuild. We need some sort of very appetising trade or a three way so another team can be involved. So from a NJN perspective I don't see it happening as a straight up Kidd for Hughes and others.
     
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    I would love it if Kidd came to Cleveland, but I just don't see the Cavs getting a superstar player with the little trade bait they have. Hopefully they can muster something up with Larry Hughes, but I really don't know who for.
     
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    pavlovic, should not be starting, i think he and larry might interest someone
     

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