Shawn Marion?

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  1. lakerman34

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    According to Sheridan, ESPN, Shawn Marion may end up in LA for Walton, #19, and "another player." Thoughts? At this point, we just need other stars on the team, I REALLY don't want to see my boy Kobe leave the team.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">lakerman34 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">According to Sheridan, ESPN, Shawn Marion may end up in LA for Walton, #19, and "another player." Thoughts? At this point, we just need other stars on the team, I REALLY don't want to see my boy Kobe leave the team.</div>

    Unless "another player" means Kobe Bryant, then it's going to get done. The #19 pick isn't that special, and Walton wouldn't even get much playing time on Phoenix, much less start. If the Suns were that desperate to ditch Marion, they'd shop him for another legitimate superstar who's looking to go to a new situation, like Garnett, Gasol, or Pierce.

    Los Angeles has a very active media with an even more active imagination, but the reality is that their trash is still just that - trash. It's not worth other teams' treasure.
     
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    Yeah I saw this yesterday, and I have no idea who gave him that rumor. I know Phoenix wants to clear cap space, but I'd have to wager they can do a lot better than Walton, #19, and other player (likely Kwame for cap purposes.)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah I saw this yesterday, and I have no idea who gave him that rumor. I know Phoenix wants to clear cap space, but I'd have to wager they can do a lot better than Walton, #19, and other player (likely Kwame for cap purposes.)</div>

    Why are the Suns in such great need of cap relief anyway? They're one of the most developed teams in the league. The last thing they need to be doing is rebuilding, especially at this juncture in Steve Nash's career. And if it were cap-motivated, wouldn't it make more sense to pull the trigger next offseason when Kwame Brown's contract would actually come off the books? Not to mention that there are a lot of players out there whose contracts are just as big, or even bigger, that cary more immediate value than Brown.
     
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    I think Marion will end up in Boston for the #5.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why are the Suns in such great need of cap relief anyway? They're one of the most developed teams in the league. The last thing they need to be doing is rebuilding, especially at this juncture in Steve Nash's career. And if it were cap-motivated, wouldn't it make more sense to pull the trigger next offseason when Kwame Brown's contract would actually come off the books? Not to mention that there are a lot of players out there whose contracts are just as big, or even bigger, that cary more immediate value than Brown.</div>

    They don't want to pay luxury tax. Their projected payroll for next year is 76.5 mils, and this year's luxury tax threshold was 65.4 mils...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Kwan1031 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">They don't want to pay luxury tax. Their projected payroll for next year is 76.5 mils, and this year's luxury tax threshold was 65.4 mils...</div>

    That's worth giving up Shawn Marion for though? I could understand if we were talking about letting a player like Marcus Banks go, but the Matrix?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's worth giving up Shawn Marion for though? I could understand if we were talking about letting a player like Marcus Banks go, but the Matrix?</div>

    I dont understand that reasoning either. They are just shy of reaching the finals. I think they can with the roster they have now. To let the Matrix go now, would really hurt them IMO.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's worth giving up Shawn Marion for though? I could understand if we were talking about letting a player like Marcus Banks go, but the Matrix?</div>

    They are putting a lot of faith in Boris Diaw being able to fill Marion's void, along with whatever they get back for him in trade.

    The Suns want to avoid paying the luxury tax, like Kwan mentioned above. The goal was to win a title this year with their current core, but even with Amare back, they only made it to the second round. If they had won the title Sarver was willing to keep everyone for another run, but getting eliminated in Round 2 meant changes were coming.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">They are putting a lot of faith in Boris Diaw being able to fill Marion's void, along with whatever they get back for him in trade.

    The Suns want to avoid paying the luxury tax, like Kwan mentioned above. The goal was to win a title this year with their current core, but even with Amare back, they only made it to the second round. If they had won the title Sarver was willing to keep everyone for another run, but getting eliminated in Round 2 meant changes were coming.</div>

    Wait, fill Marion's void? He's not a free agent or demanding a trade, is he? Then here's the solution - just don't create that void in the first place and keep him on the roster.

    Forget what Sarver said he'd do. Trading Shawn Marion would be a complete step backwards. You don't just give up on a team as good as this one because of two early exits, do you? If you give up on Marion, you give up on this current Suns core and start to focus on the future. Then, as a result, you phase Steve Nash out of your future plans as well. Teams like this just don't disseminate overnight for the luxury tax.
     
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    I dont think that Marion will have a big impact in L.A. I would like to keep Luke with the Lakers
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Bacon Smeller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I dont think that Marion will have a big impact im L.A. I would like to keep Luke with the Lakers</div>

    Are you saying that you would rather have Luke Walton then Shawn Marion? If you get that offer you better take that in a heartbeat.
     
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    ^^Well the only thing that I personally dont like about Marion is that he shoots the ball like a little girl
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Bacon Smeller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^^Well the only thing that I personally dont like about Marion is that he shoots the ball like a little girl</div>

    So would you don't want Shawn Marion because he shoots like a little girl? He makes more shots then anyone on your team not named Kobe and that basically includes very few plays run for him. Not to mention his rebounding and defense are outstanding.
     
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    Marion>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Walton anyday of the week.

    Are you saying you wouldn't want a guy who averages:
    17.5ppg/9.8rbs/2stls/1.5blks for Luke Walton?

    Luke averages:
    11.4ppg/5rbs/4.3apg/1stl/.4blks

    The only thing Walton is better at is passing. That's it. Just because Marion shoots like a lil girl doesn't mean you turn down an All-Star. I'm sorry that's just a bad excuse.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Marion>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Walton anyday of the week.

    Are you saying you wouldn't want a guy who averages:
    17.5ppg/9.8rbs/2stls/1.5blks for Luke Walton?

    Luke averages:
    11.4ppg/5rbs/4.3apg/1stl/.4blks

    The only thing Walton is better at is passing. That's it. Just because Marion shoots like a lil girl doesn't mean you turn down an All-Star. I'm sorry that's just a bad excuse.</div>

    and marions also a third option, im sure he can be a 22+ guy if he was teh first
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">thedude9990 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">and marions also a third option, im sure he can be a 22+ guy if he was teh first</div>

    Exactly, Marion was a 22 and 12 guy until Leandro came along.
     
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    Kobe and Marion would be a scary duo. Both good scorers along with great defenders. Man, that would be nasty. The only team that would reject that trade would be Phoenix. Great trade for the Lakers.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">GatorsowntheNCAA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So would you don't want Shawn Marion because he shoots like a little girl? He makes more shots then anyone on your team not named Kobe and that basically includes very few plays run for him. Not to mention his rebounding and defense are outstanding.</div>

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