<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If, in fact, we're at the point where Kevin Garnett and his agent are nixing possible trades, then the longtime Timberwolves franchise lynchpin will be gone very soon. There's no turning back. This is like being in a long-term relationship and suddenly having your significant other say he or she would like to be able to see other people. It's never the same after that. A fissure has developed. The Wolves tried to trade, or at least strongly considered trading, Garnett. There's no way to pretend it never happened. The love affair is over. Garnett has no need to remain loyal to the franchise now that the front office was knee deep in talks to move him to the Boston Celtics. So even if he does stay here short term, he likely opts out of his contract at the end of next season and goes somewhere else to feel the love. Kevin McHale has no choice but to acquiesce to Garnett's wishes and trade him to a warm-weather contender. If he doesn't, he'll get nothing for him in a year. Of course, McHale could be driving his tractor full time by then. For what it's worth, the potential trade reported by ESPN.com would have been a good one for Minnesota: Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff, Wally Szczerbiak, Sebastian Telfair and the No. 5 overall pick in next Thursday's draft for Garnett and Troy Hudson. I'd have taken that deal, even though it was the collaboration of two desperate basketball executives, each with one foot out the door and the other on a banana peel. McHale and Danny Ainge are bosom buddies, a couple of ex-Celtics, coming to the end of their front-office tenures. Perhaps they were attempting a final drastic kick-start for their respective franchises. The last blockbuster between the two, involving Szczerbiak and Ricky Davis among others, turned out to be more of a blahbuster. Both teams continued to play depressing basketball. I just hope McHale and owner Glen Taylor were more upfront with Garnett about his situation than they were with the press. We've had nothing but denials for a week. Oh yes, they were all planning on K.G. being back next season. There were no plans to trade him. </div> Source: St. Paul Pioneer Press
Well that is a depressing read. I just hope we don't take any bad contracts for him and he gets a real good chance at a title. I'm actually kind of excited to watch KG play in the playoffs again.
how dare they try to trade him to boston! he just tried to throw ainge a bone. sent this guy to a good organization. he deserves it!
....the more I think of KG and Kobe together....the more I DON'T like it. As a KG fan, I don't know how well a Diva and a Hard-Worker will work out. Am I saying Kobe doesn't work hard? No. But to see all of the antics and "me-first" attention seeking just shows he's spoiled and selfish. He couldn't even let Lebron capture the attention of the nation by making the Finals without having his name in the spotlight. Some would say the media put his name there, but he knew what would come if he made the statements that he did and it would get national attention. Even though they have good chemistry in the ANNUAL All-Star games doesn't mean they'll have that same chemistry ever day. Look at their court demeanor. KG will toss the ball back at the ref and gesture to his head as if to say "I was fouled" and go back on D. Kobe will YELL at the ref and berate him while he (ref) follows him down the court. And then keep complaining back up the court. KG wouldn't mind deferring to Kobe for the last shot, so I don't think they'd have issues there. But when I see what Nash does and how he is always trying to bring up the spirits of his teammates. I'd much rather see KG go to Phoenix. Nash and KG would be great. I think KG would get tired of all of the drama in Lakerland and appreciate the calmer, team-oriented Phoenix Suns.
<div class="quote_poster">Sabretooth Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">But when I see what Nash does and how he is always trying to bring up the spirits of his teammates. I'd much rather see KG go to Phoenix. Nash and KG would be great. I think KG would get tired of all of the drama in Lakerland and appreciate the calmer, team-oriented Phoenix Suns.</div> Thank you for the endorsement. I am really pushing for the Suns to get Garnett, though I'm gonna be sad that it will probably be a the expense of Shawn Marion, my favorite Sun. I think KG's career would be completely revitalized playing with Nash. Nash makes guys like Tim Thomas look like superstars. I can only imagine what he can do with someone who's already a superstar. ESPN said this morning that KG has done well when he has others that can take big shots. How's about Nash, Bell, Barbosa, Amare, Diaw, and sometimes James Jones (considering they don't move any of those players). And reports are Grant Hill is coming to Phoenix too, so I don't see any reason KG wouldn't be ecstatic to play in Phoenix.
KG has been loyal to this fault for years and has never won a Western Conference Chmpionship and i think it's only fair to trade him.
<div class="quote_poster">lakersfan171 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">KG has been loyal to this fault for years and has never won a playoff series and i think it's only fair to trade him.</div> Never won a playoff series? He went to the Western Conference Finals with Latrell Sprewell and Sam Cassell in the 2003-04 season. He's never played in the Finals but he's not Tracy McGrady, he's won several different playoff series.
<div class="quote_poster">lakersfan171 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">By Playoff series i mean won the Western Conference Championship.</div> Oh ok, gotcha.
<div class="quote_poster">Sabretooth Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">....the more I think of KG and Kobe together....the more I DON'T like it. As a KG fan, I don't know how well a Diva and a Hard-Worker will work out. Am I saying Kobe doesn't work hard? No. But to see all of the antics and "me-first" attention seeking just shows he's spoiled and selfish. He couldn't even let Lebron capture the attention of the nation by making the Finals without having his name in the spotlight. Some would say the media put his name there, but he knew what would come if he made the statements that he did and it would get national attention. Even though they have good chemistry in the ANNUAL All-Star games doesn't mean they'll have that same chemistry ever day. Look at their court demeanor. KG will toss the ball back at the ref and gesture to his head as if to say "I was fouled" and go back on D. Kobe will YELL at the ref and berate him while he (ref) follows him down the court. And then keep complaining back up the court. KG wouldn't mind deferring to Kobe for the last shot, so I don't think they'd have issues there. But when I see what Nash does and how he is always trying to bring up the spirits of his teammates. I'd much rather see KG go to Phoenix. Nash and KG would be great. I think KG would get tired of all of the drama in Lakerland and appreciate the calmer, team-oriented Phoenix Suns.</div> You do realize KG and Kobe train together in the offseason. They've been friends since they came into the league. KG has also developed a friendship with Nash from playing with him at the All Star games. If the Suns give up Amare, no one will be able to put a better deal together. However, the Suns are trying to deal Marion, and Marion said he doesn't want to go to Minnesota. Marion has a player option for next summer, so he has leverage in dictating where he wants to go.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">However, the Suns are trying to deal Marion, and Marion said he doesn't want to go to Minnesota. Marion has a player option for next summer, so he has leverage in dictating where he wants to go.</div> Unless you're a rebuilding team like the Timberwolves who might be willing to let Marion opt out so you can offer his $17M a year to any of the many high-quality free agents that will be available next year.
<div class="quote_poster">Downtown Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Unless you're a rebuilding team like the Timberwolves who might be willing to let Marion opt out so you can offer his $17M a year to any of the many high-quality free agents that will be available next year.</div> However if you're Minnesota you know that attracting big name free agents have been a problem for you for years, even with KG. If they're going to rebuild they need to do it through talented young players with rookie contracts and draft picks.
<div class="quote_poster">Sabretooth Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">....the more I think of KG and Kobe together....the more I DON'T like it. As a KG fan, I don't know how well a Diva and a Hard-Worker will work out. Am I saying Kobe doesn't work hard? No. But to see all of the antics and "me-first" attention seeking just shows he's spoiled and selfish. He couldn't even let Lebron capture the attention of the nation by making the Finals without having his name in the spotlight. Some would say the media put his name there, but he knew what would come if he made the statements that he did and it would get national attention. Even though they have good chemistry in the ANNUAL All-Star games doesn't mean they'll have that same chemistry ever day. Look at their court demeanor. KG will toss the ball back at the ref and gesture to his head as if to say "I was fouled" and go back on D. Kobe will YELL at the ref and berate him while he (ref) follows him down the court. And then keep complaining back up the court. KG wouldn't mind deferring to Kobe for the last shot, so I don't think they'd have issues there. But when I see what Nash does and how he is always trying to bring up the spirits of his teammates. I'd much rather see KG go to Phoenix. Nash and KG would be great. I think KG would get tired of all of the drama in Lakerland and appreciate the calmer, team-oriented Phoenix Suns.</div>
<div class="quote_poster">kobe23 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"></div> What's the finger wave for? I totally agree with sabertooth. I am really hoping this trade goes down because nash and KG are two of my favorite players and would work amazingly together. From a twolves standpoint i think we need to try to get a player that actually has some leadership qualities. Hopefully we get rid of RD as well so Foye's development doesn't get stinted at all.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You do realize KG and Kobe train together in the offseason. They've been friends since they came into the league. </div> I did not realize this. KG's coming from a smaller market and he has seen a couple of incidents with players getting attention from the media (usually Vikings), but not an attention seeker. It's just my opinion, but I feel like I could cheer whole-heartedly for Nash with KG. I'm personally sick of Kobe's arrogance, attention seeking, and....his super-biased fans (I think they multiply my dislike because they don't seem to hold him to any level of responsibility). That is not for everyone and I know you understand what I mean. The guys who act like Kobe is the best thing on 2 feet and he's a basketball god. I've haven't seen fans like this for any other player (I didn't do forums when MJ was playing). I've seen biased fans before but when you point out something that the player does that everyone knows is true, they'll concur. I posted before about how Kobe drives into traffic and yell's to get a call....constantly. It's very audible. I've also posted about how he berates refs for multiple plays up and down the court even though the league is supposed to be "zero tolerance". The point I'm making is this, Nash is the kind of player that makes almost ANYBODY wanna play with him. I believe if I played with Nash I could be a solid contributor. He seems like a guy who really enjoys the comradery (that's why I'm also a big fan of Rony Turiaf) of the team sport.
<div class="quote_poster">Sabretooth Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I posted before about how Kobe drives into traffic and yell's to get a call....constantly. It's very audible. I've also posted about how he berates refs for multiple plays up and down the court even though the league is supposed to be "zero tolerance".</div> I always notice this too. I have seen Amare Stoudemire get T'd up for saying the word "No" in a raised voice, while Kobe in the same game yells a barrage of expletives at refs for a call that was a no-brainer and gets no punishment. It's ridiculous and the type of attitude I would not welcome on my preferred team.
honestly, i really want to see KG leave minny and im glad he is. he's wasted 3 seasons of his career here and now it is time to move on. hopefully a trade can work out were we actually close to or equal value for him the bad thing is that is contract his so high werever he goes he's only gonna have a couple of good players there.
