Mavs Willing to Deal for Kobe

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  1. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">? If the Dallas Mavericks felt they had a legitimate chance to acquire Kobe Bryant, being as they're one of the teams reportedly on his short list, I'm told that they would trade anybody on their roster other than Dirk Nowitzki and Devin Harris, the latter because the Mavs feel he's the only player in the league who can defend Tony Parker.</div>

    Source: Chris Sheridan's Blog

    This would mean Josh Howard would be the centerpiece of the Mavs package. I'd also want Mo Ager, Diop, and draft picks.

    I'm not sure if Dallas is still eligible to deal Stackhouse's ($9M expiring K) or Croshere's (#7M expiring K) expiring contracts, but I wouldn't mind taking either of those for additional cap space. I believe it's July 11th when they offcially expire.

    If the Lakers deal Kobe and plan to rebuild Josh Howard would be a great piece to add.
     
  2. Voodoo Child

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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
    If the Lakers deal Kobe and plan to rebuild Josh Howard would be a great piece to add.</div>

    That's a horrible future if you ask me. Josh Howard's not going to carry a team of scrubs like Kobe did. They'll be lottery bound in '08 and then an unattractive destination to potential free agents (once you get past the appeal of playing in LA that is).

    Don't you think they can get more? Like Gasol or Garnett? Hell, maybe even Dirk himself if the Lakers put together a good enough trade. The only players I'd think would be off limits are LeBron, Duncan, Wade, and Nash.
     
  3. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's a horrible future if you ask me. Josh Howard's not going to carry a team of scrubs like Kobe did. They'll be lottery bound in '08 and then an unattractive destination to potential free agents (once you get past the appeal of playing in LA that is).

    Don't you think they can get more? Like Gasol or Garnett? Hell, maybe even Dirk himself if the Lakers put together a good enough trade. The only players I'd think would be off limits are LeBron, Duncan, Wade, and Nash.</div>

    The Lakers would have cap space to pursue a big name free agent in 2008, possibly Gilbert Arenas?

    PG - Arenas
    SG- Ager
    SF - Howard
    PF - Odom
    C - Bynum
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
    PG - Arenas
    SG- Ager
    SF - Howard
    PF - Odom
    C - Bynum</div>

    That's actually a pretty impressive lineup.

    I think if you should also add Bonsu and Barea to the deal, those are two players I think could have a bright future. It could also be an oppurtunity to unload Radman.

    But, I thought the Lakers weren't willing to trade him within the West?
     
  5. The Dream

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    the mavs are so damn stupid......give up dirk for kobe........L.A. would probably do it.....
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">the mavs are so damn stupid......give up dirk for kobe........L.A. would probably do it.....</div>

    After seeing Mark Cuban in tears when giving Dirk's MVP speech, I highly doubt they would consider trading him away, even for Kobe. There's some loyalty right there between those two.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's a horrible future if you ask me. Josh Howard's not going to carry a team of scrubs like Kobe did. They'll be lottery bound in '08 and then an unattractive destination to potential free agents (once you get past the appeal of playing in LA that is).

    Don't you think they can get more? Like Gasol or Garnett? Hell, maybe even Dirk himself if the Lakers put together a good enough trade. The only players I'd think would be off limits are LeBron, Duncan, Wade, and Nash.</div>

    You want Howard, that guy is a stud. I would much rather have Howard over Dirk, if the Mavs ran their offense through Howard instead of Dirk he would be the MVP of that team. I think Mavs fans would agree.
     
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    Id be ayt with a trio of dirk, kobe and harris... and a laker lineup of howard, odom, bynum... but the mavs SHOULD get some role players...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">kobe23 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Id be ayt with a trio of dirk, kobe and harris... and a laker lineup of howard, odom, bynum... but the mavs SHOULD get some role players...</div>

    lol bring Kobe off the bench hahah to kill them all.[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    i think howard excels in the system avery runs. dont know how he'd do for the lakers
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">*Scotch Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You want Howard, that guy is a stud. I would much rather have Howard over Dirk, if the Mavs ran their offense through Howard instead of Dirk he would be the MVP of that team. I think Mavs fans would agree.</div>lmao. Howard is not half the player Dirk is, get real. Even Howard would tell you that. You obviously have missed those 4 for 13 nights he has every other game. If you ran your offense through Josh Howard you would be the worst team in the league. Dirk is the most consistent player in the league, period. The only one who comes close is TD.
     
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    even Lamar Odom for Josh Howard (direct swap) would be disappointing
     
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    Kobe for Josh? bleh............ I'd cry.
     
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    Dallas will be a great choice to trade Kobe but keeping him in Western Conf. will hurt us.I would do this trade so in the 08 FA Market the Lakers could get Arenas or Kidd.
     
  15. Karma

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    lol @ Josh Howard being more valueable than Dirk Nowitzki. It's easy to hate on Dirk now, but this Mavs team is dangerous, and will bounce back very strongly next year. It's easy to hate on Dirk and the Mavs right now. I'm not even a Mavs fan but I don't think they'll be easy to write off next year.

    As for Kobe to the Mavs, a trio of Dirk, Kobe and Devin Harris would be insane and Dallas would still be strong. Meanwhile, the Lakers don't get a superstar in return but their lineup is still solid.
     
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    Josh Howard is more valuble to the Mavs than Dirk. I wouldn't trade J-Ho for anyone other than a superstar in return. If Kobe is really interested in going to Dallas, I'd trade Terry, Ager, J-Ho and a first round pick for Kobe + Radman.

    Lakers get a much better lineup of
    Terry/Ager/J-Ho/Odom/Bynum

    Mavs end up with Kobe + Dirk
    Harris/Kobe/Radman/Dirk/Damp

    Win-Win scenario for both teams..
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Josh Howard is more valuble to the Mavs than Dirk. I wouldn't trade J-Ho for anyone other than a superstar in return. If Kobe is really interested in going to Dallas, I'd trade Terry, Ager, J-Ho and a first round pick for Kobe + Radman.

    Lakers get a much better lineup of
    Terry/Ager/J-Ho/Odom/Bynum

    Mavs end up with Kobe + Dirk
    Harris/Kobe/Radman/Dirk/Damp

    Win-Win scenario for both teams..</div>

    I don't get it. If Josh Howard is more valuable to you than Dirk, then why trade him to LA instead of Dirk? I'm sure LA would rather have Dirk [​IMG]
     
  18. Karma

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    <div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Josh Howard is more valuble to the Mavs than Dirk.
    </div>

    That's easy to say when Dirk is the one that opposing teams prepare for the most.

    For example, Tony Parker won the Finals MVP; does that mean he is more valueable to the Spurs than Tim Duncan? There's a reason why Duncan and Dirk are the centerpeices of thier teams.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Karma Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's easy to say when Dirk is the one that opposing teams prepare for the most.

    For example, Tony Parker won the Finals MVP; does that mean he is more valueable to the Spurs than Tim Duncan? There's a reason why Duncan and Dirk are the centerpeices of thier teams.</div>

    We all know Dirk has his weak points, but when you've never won less than 50 games as one of the main guys, and in the last 2 years, you've had the team centered around you, and you've won the amount of regular season games and gone to the Finals, I don't care if you're surrounded by 4 all-stars, it's still centered around you, and you have to be pretty good to pull that off.
    Put it this way, despite the playoff meltdown we already KNOW that Dallas is going to be good for at least 50 or 55 games next year, don't we? The #1 reason is Dirk.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">We all know Dirk has his weak points, but when you've never won less than 50 games as one of the main guys, and in the last 2 years, you've had the team centered around you, and you've won the amount of regular season games and gone to the Finals, I don't care if you're surrounded by 4 all-stars, it's still centered around you, and you have to be pretty good to pull that off.
    Put it this way, despite the playoff meltdown we already KNOW that Dallas is going to be good for at least 50 or 55 games next year, don't we? The #1 reason is Dirk.</div>

    My point exactly. Therefore, how is Howard more valueable to the Mavs than Dirk is? If Dirk was not on the Mavs, would Josh Howard's game be better or would it be exposed? Howard is great, but Dirk is the franchise; that's the difference between them.
     

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