KG Revisited!!!!

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  1. lakerman34

    lakerman34 JBB JustBBall Member

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    According to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Lakers and T'Wolves plan on resuming talks that would send Garnett to LA. Who would you prefer, a package of Brandan Wright, Andris Biedrins, Monta Ellis, fillers OR Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom, and Kwame Brown, and Javaris Crittenton with the Timberwolves giving up another player?
     
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    I think everyone would agree the former, though on a second look Bynum and Crittenton have a lot of potential but does it match Wright, Biedrins and Ellis potential, No, but Lakers are offering Odom as well who is a proven player. Minnesota would probably prefer GS offer more because if they trade KG they'll be rebuilding however they will also have to consider where KG wants to go which is more likely to be LA.
     
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    This is so unlikely, it won't happen. Newspapers always make up stories like this.
     
  4. Yournewchef

    Yournewchef Whippin up a cake.

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    Well at least it's news, nothing's been happening lateley lol.
     
  5. themachineneverstops

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    here is a link java script:newwind('http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1183883456287330.xml&coll=2','41')
     
  6. Really Lost One

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    I would take the Golden State deal in a heartbeat, no questions asked. I've given up on Kevin Garnett, I've finally come to realization that trading for him is impossible. It won't happen. We're better off not wasting our time and try to improve our roster in another way
     
  7. Dark Hero

    Dark Hero Can't Tell Me Nothing

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    <div class="quote_poster">Brian Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I would take the Golden State deal in a heartbeat, no questions asked. I've given up on Kevin Garnett, I've finally come to realization that trading for him is impossible. It won't happen. We're better off not wasting our time and try to improve our roster in another way</div>

    I couldn't have said it better.

    Minnesota will be dumb not taking the Golden State trade.
    I found a interesting trade scenario here:
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">This scenario relies on the premise that the Celtics accept that they are not getting Garnett for themselves.

    Through his agent, Garnett has indicated Boston is not a favorable destination. It's possible that may have changed after the Celtics traded for Ray Allen, but Garnett would cost at least Al Jefferson, who is a fan favorite.

    It also assumes that Dr. Buss is willing to pay hefty luxury taxes that could exceed $10 million in 2007/8 alone. He could face a similar amount for each year Garnett is with the team.

    Those taxes would be the price to not only keep Kobe Bryant but more importantly keep the fan base that goes along with him. Given the tax bill, Buss may not agree.

    It also assumes that the Wolves want to shed as much long-term salary as they can while bringing in last year contracts, young players and draft picks. As far as which picks? Let the respective general managers hash that part out.

    So here goes:

    The Lakers send Lamar Odom to Boston.

    The Celtics in turn deal Theo Ratliff and Gerald Green to the Timberwolves.

    Minnesota trades Garnett, Mark Blount and Marko Jaric to LA.

    Finally the Lakers package Kwame Brown, Andrew Bynum, Jordan Farmar, Sasha Vujacic and Aaron McKie to the Wolves. McKie would have to agree to a sign and trade at a minimum of $1.4 million. He can sign for up to $3 million before the base year compensation rule kicks in.

    Based on the finances of the proposed deal, Garnett can waive his trade kicker. While giving up $6.75 million may seem unlikely at first glance, the Lakers can make up for Garnett's lost wages with a lucrative extension.

    The Celtics basically swap out a promising young guard and a last year contract for the versatile Odom. While the knock on the forward is that he's not a consistently productive scorer, he is a tenacious rebounder and strong playmaker. The Celtics will have plenty of scoring with Paul Pierce, Allen and Jefferson.

    With Odom the Celtics get tremendous flexibility. They can put Jefferson at center and Odom gives them a second low post option. They can put Kendrick Perkins at the five and Odom at the three, which would be strong defensively.

    In picking up Allen in trade from the Seattle SuperSonics, the Celtics have gone down the "win now" path and Odom would help make the Celtics one of the top teams in the East.

    The Wolves add one of the top center prospects in the league in Bynum. They also get a pair of guards with huge upside in Green and Farmar.

    In addition to three nice young players and a bunch of expiring contracts, Minnesota saves $7.4 million in payroll for the coming season. Beyond 2007/8 they shed $37.8 million by moving Jaric and Blount.

    In 2008/9 the Wolves would have a nice chunk of cap space available with just $34.9 million on the books. They'd have a bright young crew of backcourt/wing players in Corey Brewer, Randy Foye, Rashad McCants, Farmar and Green . . . along with Bynum in the frontcourt.

    They'd need to bring in a long-term solution at the four, but the rebuilding process would have made a sizable leap forward.

    The Lakers land Garnett, pacify Bryant and give the NBA a very marketable contender in LA (which is good for the entire league). The Lakers give up a lot to get Garnett, but by bringing in Blount and Jaric they'd at least have serviceable bodies back to round out the roster.

    They can still look to sign Derek Fisher with part of the Mid-Level Exception and bring back Chris Mihm to fortify the front line.

    PG: Derek FisherMarko JaricJavaris Crittenton
    SG: Kobe BryantMo Evans
    SF: Luke WaltonVladimir Radmanovic
    PF: Kevin GarnettRonny TuriafBrian Cook
    C: Mark BlountChris Mihm

    Perhaps LA uses the balance of their Mid-Level on a defensive-minded small forward. Maybe they bring in either or both of their second-round picks (Sun Yue or Marc Gasol).

    Laker payroll would skyrocket into the $82+ million range, which means luxury taxes for Dr. Buss.

    Is that a team that can compete for the NBA Championship?

    Do the Lakers give up too much?

    Do the Celtics want Lamar Odom? Would they want to make a deal that helps the Lakers pair Garnett with Bryant?

    Do the Wolves get enough in return for Garnett?

    Do other teams make better offers?

    At some point the fantasy probably crashes to the reality that the answer is "no."

    For now it is the summertime and fantasy is just about all Laker fans have until the current crisis is resolved for better or worse.

    Of course the Celtics aren't the only team who can help the Lakers land Garnett. With Lamar Odom as bait perhaps another team would step up (Chicago?) but unfortunately multi-team trades are very hard to come by.

    Perhaps the Wolves won't find any better offers than Bynum and Odom and make things easy for LA . . . but it's far more likely they hold onto Garnett until the trade deadline to see if they can't get the perfect package.

    If so will the Lakers and Bryant be willing to wait that long?

    </div>Source
     
  8. bacon smeller

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    Well I would give up Odom,Bynum,Brown & Critteron for KG and another player. KG would be a good fit but I do agree with Chef at least it's news.
     
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    We had a four team trade going before that involved us, Minnesota, Indiana, and Boston. I believe the trade would have landed us Kevin Garnett, but Boston backed out of the deal. Anyways, I don't see any reason for Boston to part ways with Theo Ratliff and Gerald Green, who has tons of potential, for Lamar Odom. It's not going to happen. The best way for us to get a deal done for Garnett is to trade with Minnesota straight up. Three way deals are complicated and don't happen very often. I don't see any reason why Boston, or Kevin McHale, an ex-Celtic, will want to help the Lakers
     
  10. bronbron23

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    The trade idea is nice even though I briefly skimmed it. However Boston wouldn't give up Green and I think Farmar isn't guard who has "huge upside" IMO.

    How dead is the KG to LA? I think it could still happen...have hope!
     
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    Only way KG comes to LA is if he demands a trade here
     
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    Yet another unreliable source/ rumor. KG if anywhere wants to go to Phonix.
     
  13. K8BE24

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    The only time I'll get excited is if Garnett is introduced as a Laker. I'm tired of getting excited for nothing.
     

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