i'm not the biggest wayne fan, i don't think hes that great either, but i have a cousin who listens to him and i was with him this past weekend, lil wayne sounds hot in a car, he makes songs that you can blast in your car, they may not be lyrical but they sound cool
<div class="quote_poster">Blur Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Lil Wayne is not an incredible rapper, but he isn't trash either. I like some of his stuff "n**** wit money", "where the cash at", etc. are good. He also has some good verses in remixes like "diamonds on my damn chain."</div>welcome to the Lil Wayne is Not Bad club! We're a select group. Venom that's a great list. My Top 5 (I figure the ones i've listened to the most is a pretty good marker of what my top is) Mobb Deep - The Infamous... Gang Starr - Moment Of Truth Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx Talib kweli - Reflection Eternal Ice Cube - The Predator Honorable Mentions: Dr. Dre - The Chronic Nas - Illmatic Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders Outkast - ATLiens note how the newest one on here is like 7 years old. damn. WHERE ARE THE HIPHOP CLASSICS OF TODAY?
<div class="quote_poster">A.F. Venom Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah I guess Jay-Z, Andre 3000, Kanye West, and 9th Wonder are just oblivious to hip hop aren't they? Your still stuck on people that like Wayne don't like "real" hip-hop? Please.. I'm not saying dude is a top notch lyricist or anything...but he makes good music...good hooks, good beats, and is good for a few quoatble punchlines. All hip hop can't be all lyricism all the time...just like there is formula fiction that is still entertaining but there is great literature as well.</div> I never said "people who like Wayne dont like real Hip-Hop", I said if they think he is a good artist, then they obviously dont know their sh*t, about Hip-Hop. I honestly dont care that Jay-Z, Andre 3000, Kanye West, and 9th Wonder like him, have they actually ever come out and praised his lyrical skills? If not, they are likely talking about him in regards to a typical Rap artist point of view, in other words he is good with his ability to make $$$. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Ain't nobody fuckin with me man, Heatman Ski Mask spending next weeks cash, he fast And I don't even need a G pass, I'm past that I'm passing em out now and you can't have that Hear my chain, Toucan Sam that Tropical colors you can't match that Gotta be abstract You catch my gal legs open betta smash that Don't be surprised if she ask where the cash at I see she wearing them jeans that show her butt crack My girls can't wear that why that's where my stash at I put my mack down that's where you lack at She need her candlelit and I'ma wax that I rekindle the flame She remember he name It's Weezy Baby January December the same Mama gimme that brain Mama gimme that good Cause I'm the fireman You hear the firetruck</div> It wouldnt matter if Guru himself came out and said that Lil' Wayne was a great MC, I would still say he is wrong. Lil' Wayne is terrible, he has no flow what so ever, he has lame punchlines, inane subject matter, weak multies, lets put it this way, he has less lyrical talent than 50 Cent, now thats saying somthing. I'd much rather listen to any 50 Cent joint where he talks about being "hot as a tea kettle" than stupid verses that dont even rhyme like "Mama gimme that brain, Mama gimme that good, Cause I'm the fireman, You hear the firetruck"
<div class="quote_poster">NTC Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I never said "people who like Wayne dont like real Hip-Hop", I said if they think he is a good artist, then they obviously dont know their sh*t, about Hip-Hop. I honestly dont care that Jay-Z, Andre 3000, Kanye West, and 9th Wonder like him, have they actually ever come out and praised his lyrical skills? If not, they are likely talking about him in regards to a typical Rap artist point of view, in other words he is good with his ability to make $$$. It wouldnt matter if Guru himself came out and said that Lil' Wayne was a great MC, I would still say he is wrong. Lil' Wayne is terrible, he has no flow what so ever, he has lame punchlines, inane subject matter, weak multies, lets put it this way, he has less lyrical talent than 50 Cent, now thats saying somthing. I'd much rather listen to any 50 Cent joint where he talks about being "hot as a tea kettle" than stupid verses that dont even rhyme like "Mama gimme that brain, Mama gimme that good, Cause I'm the fireman, You hear the firetruck"</div> That line doesn't rhyme is you say it properly but he slurred the word and it rhymed....(you miss again) <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> I never said "people who like Wayne dont like real Hip-Hop", I said if they think he is a good artist, then they obviously dont know their sh*t, about Hip-Hop. I honestly dont care that Jay-Z, Andre 3000, Kanye West, and 9th Wonder like him, have they actually ever come out and praised his lyrical skills? If not, they are likely talking about him in regards to a typical Rap artist point of view, in other words he is good with his ability to make $$$.</div> Yup. Answer the question do Jay-Z, 9th, Ye, and 3000, not know "their sh*t"???? funny how people bring up Fireman all the time like that proves anything, dude has tons of material yet two people talk about the same song like it has defined the mans career...I promise you nobody is perfect. Every track isn't good. How much of his material have you hear NTC?
<div class="quote_poster">A.F. Venom Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That line doesn't rhyme is you say it properly but he slurred the word and it rhymed....(you miss again)</div> So what? It's still a very poor substitute and a very poor rhyme. If thats the case, lets make anything rhyme, how about "fibreoptic" with "ice cream", sure, we can make it work if we say it a certain way. Poor lyricism either way, you find the words to fit the song, not make the words fit to find the song. <div class="quote_poster">A.F. Venom Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">funny how people bring up Fireman all the time like that proves anything, dude has tons of material yet two people talk about the same song like it has defined the mans career...I promise you nobody is perfect. Every track isn't good.</div> Sh*t it doesnt worry me, I'll slap Waynes entire library up here for you if you like, it's all the same old tried crap. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Drop It Like Its Hot:</div><div class="quote_post">You know me girl I'm a cash money millionaire look at my Rolie (Rolex) girl Drop to your knees toss your hair ahah slow me girls Now hit it strong, won't be long, now catch it slowly girl No he didn't say that, yes I did girl I don't use rubbers, and I don't plan no kids girl I don't want your number, I want your trouble, in ya skins girl Then after that, you can get it how you live girl That's on the real girl, I'm a pimp girl Get it twisted, I'll slam you like Shawn Kemp girl I know my neck get it hot like a lighter girl I just slap you a couple of times, never fight it girl That's cause I likes it girl And let me tell you somethin girl, I am a player girl So don't you try to play me cause I never save a girl Do me a favor girl, and wet the spot girl And after you back it up, drop it like its hot girl</div> <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tha Block Is Hot:</div><div class="quote_post"> Look, it's little rhymecholy Legendary like Bob Marley 17 ward superstar, feel me I tell ya, shorty million dollar, ***** Don't test, 'cause lil' shorty is a rider, ***** Got my click behind me.. every step of tha way Hit your wards, with tha pump, with your chest and your face I'm a bloodhound... I ain't lyin', I'm thugged out! I'm from uptown... and that ain't no Beverly Hills You wan' know what that be like? Well, curiousity kills Send chills up my trigga finger, blast tha dummy 'Specially if it's a drought, I got ta have tha money Take tha hit, even if it's below tha average money Got to make it through tha week, and feed my family uppy I'm just a lil' thug, what Belt-buckle fall down to my cuffs, what And police don't even matter, they can suck what Tha price right if I catch ya slippin', *****, what what.. what</div> <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 500 Degreez:</div><div class="quote_post">You see me? I eat, sleep, ****, and talk snaps; so **** rap Man I got weed, pills, pistols, all crack Bitch niggas where ya hearts at? Ya'll ain't stuntin' like us Bitch niggas where ya cars at? They like, "Wayne why the **** you dressed in all black?" I'm about to bring CMR back And all the lames, we done lost that And all we got is Weezy, Weezy, and Lil' Weezy to fall back I'm about to lock it from the summer to the fall and back "Its Weezy baby!" The ballers back And the wheels on my car you got all of that Stop playing, I've been balling jack You don't want my glock spraying - I hit all them cats You don't want my stomach ache - I **** on them cats I get all them gats - Fresh and B it's all a rap! If I'm the only Hot Boy what do you call that?</div> <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bring It Back:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, I'm fly as a son of gun son of a stunna Yeah, high as a 757 goin to heaven Who, Weezy F. ya reverend, preach about me I'm the god, 1 - 7, Apple & E I'm the Cash Money Mackeveli, yall ain't ready Quick fast like Tom Petty, yall just petty 82 I was born ready, I'm too ready I don't affiliate with baller blockers I'm to heavy Meatball Lamborghini top spaghetti Seats Ragu, 20 the shoe Who me and you got plenty to do I don't need no pool I swimming in you And I sleep with the sharks shawty on that water water And the Beamer ain't hundred-forty mama shake for me And it don't make sense if it don't make that money I'ma take that money, I'm straight Cash Money (young Ladies!!!)</div> <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Rapper Alive:</div><div class="quote_post">Bring the crowd and I'm loud _In Living Colour_ It is Weezy fuckin' baby got these rappers in my stomach Yumi, I'm takin' it I ain't asking them for nothing If you sell a million records we can battle for ya' money I rather count a hundred thousand dollars on a sunday Watch a football game and bet it all on one play Still stuntin' baby yes I'm still flossin Latest car on the market wit the top peeled off it Big wheels make it look a lil bulky You look a lil salty have ya' self a chill coffee Chill out the girls is still out Even though I am a boss and got papers to fill out I'm busy I got paper to reel in God I hope they steppin' at the end of my rod And I hope I'm fishing in the right pond And I hope you catchin' on to every line Who am I?</div>
yeah, thread closed. Pointless discussion, you're not going to change opinions here. Lil Wayne sucks hard, people know that...and some people choose to ignore that. NTC wins.
