Update: Scola traded to Houston

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  1. Midnight Green

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Spurs continue to talk to a handful of teams, including Chicago, about trading the rights to Luis Scola, but have to yet to find an offer they like. NBA executives expect the Spurs to eventually trade Scola this summer rather than risk having him sign a long-term contract in Spain.</div>

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    This is a tough situation for the Spurs to be in, teams know they have to make a move with Scola and will most likely try to low ball them in trade offers. Hopefully, the Bulls can acquire him, he would help the front court situation immensely. With the way Tyrus has performed so far this summer however, we might end up standing pat and just adding a vet with the MLE.
     
  2. M Two One

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    Well now, you've changed your mind then?

    <div class="quote_poster">Blur Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know much about this guy haven't really seen much of him playing, but from what I have read through scouting reports, etc. he is not very versatile. The only position the reports say he can really play is power forward, and even then he is a bit short for that as well. I also hear he is a poor rebounder when in a stationary position. Although, a good rebounder when coming in from the wings. I don't know how much another undersized power forward would help us.</div>

    I've been on about this guy for two years now as he is an offensive force and with Nocioni and Deng that could be our future frontcourt hands down. He needs someone to help him adjust, why not one of his best friends? Anyway, I'm not doing this to rag on you really, I'm just surprised by your change of mind all of a sudden. Also, don't let summer league games change your entire perspective of a player. As time and time again have proven it may end up being nothing. Hopefully though Tyrus will improve his shot, free throws, clumsyness and other needed qualities that he should have to become a forceful player at his position.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well now, you've changed your mind then?
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    http://www.justbball.com/forums/showthread...ight=luis+scola

    I never said he would be a bad acquisitions in the first place, I noted somethings that I read from scouting reports, and like I said back than and still say now I will give you the benefit of the doubt considering I haven't seen him play. Heck I even put the "i support Luis Scola to Chicago" thing in my signature. Considering the players we have at the position right now, basically Tyrus and Noah, its worth trading for him, especially if we can get him at a low price. Most of my concern from when this subject was originally brought up was that at the time it seemed like we had plenty of talent at the position, Khyrapa was complaining about playing time (etc.), like I stated before it would have been a shame to bring someone over just to warm the bench.
     
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    With the new NBA rules favoring players who can penetrate, Luis Scola will be unstoppable. He plays with the same disregard for his body Manu Ginobili does, but at the forward position. He looks for contact so he can get to the free throw line, and with the amount of whistles blown now, he'll make a living from the charity stripe.

    I'm not sure who the Spurs would want from Chicago, maybe Duhon and a future pick?
     
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    Why didn't he play last season?
     
  6. M Two One

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    Contract issues with his foreign club. San Antonio will likely want more then Duhon and a pick for Scola I'm sure. That is, unless that pick is a future first rounder. They may go for that, but they'd be stupid to do so. I think the Bulls would have to give up another player or two draft picks.
     
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    Duhon, Khryapa, 08 1st and 2nd round pick for Scola is all i would do.

    -Hinrich/Curry
    -Gordon/Sefolosha
    -Deng/Nocioni/Griffin
    -Thomas/Scola/Gray
    -Wallace/Noah

    Not bad but the thing is we have 4 players thats never played an NBA game b4 but they will adjust. [​IMG]
     
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    They won't care to have Viktor. I'm sure they'd take Duhon, an '08 second round pick and an '09 first rounder or vice versa. They'd still get ripped off.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">They won't care to have Viktor. I'm sure they'd take Duhon, an '08 second round pick and an '09 first rounder or vice versa. They'd still get ripped off.</div>

    yea they would get ripped off with that deal or with any team they trade with because no one is going to trade them equal value or more 4 a player thats never played an NBA game.
     
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    Plus the fact that he's a dominating offensive threat and if he transitions well enough he can be an All-Star. That's why we need him here because he'd adapt quickly with a close friend like Andr?s Nocioni on board.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">taurus515th Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Duhon, Khryapa, 08 1st and 2nd round pick for Scola is all i would do.

    -Hinrich/Curry
    -Gordon/Sefolosha
    -Deng/Nocioni/Griffin
    -Thomas/Scola/Gray
    -Wallace/Noah

    Not bad but the thing is we have 4 players thats never played an NBA game b4 but they will adjust. [​IMG]</div>

    Nice rotation but I would put barret ahead of James OnCurry. Barret is tiny but he is a solid NBA player who can shoot very well and can dish the ball.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Butler And Scola Traded To Houston
    July 12, 2007 - 9:19 pm
    San Antonio Express-News -
    The Spurs have agreed to trade center Jackie Butler and Argentine forward Luis Scola to the Houston Rockets for guard Vassilis Spanoulis, a future second-round pick and cash considerations, an NBA source said Thursday evening.

    Spanoulis, who played sparingly for the Rockets last season, is expected to remain in Europe. [READ]</div>
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    Houston got him really cheap...

    BTW, I'm pretty late on this, but, why didn't the Spurs want to keep him if he's supposed to be pretty good?
     
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    *whistles* Damn the Spurs got raped up the ass on that one.
     
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    San Antonio basically gave Scola away, and Jackie Butler is a decent player when he gets PT.

    I don't even think VSpan is playing in the NBA this year. Didn't he just sign a deal to return to a club in Greece?
     
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    Wow, Pax couldn't top that deal?
     
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    I'm starting to dislike our staff even further after this. The possible answer to the team's number one debacle could've been Scola and instead of topping the Houston deal with someone like Khryapa or Duhon we lose our opportunity and the Rockets land him for cheese and crackers.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm starting to dislike our staff even further after this. The possible answer to the team's number one debacle could've been Scola and instead of topping the Houston deal with someone like Khryapa or Duhon we lose our opportunity and the Rockets land him for cheese and crackers.</div>

    The Spurs didnt want salary in return. Duhon + Khryapa would be a little over 4 million. So dont dislike our staff there was nothing the Spurs wanted from us.
     
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    No offense to you, bro, but either you read incorrectly or apparently there isn't a major difference between "plus" and "or" in your grasp of the English language. Both players are two single examples and this organization could've had a deal go through with dozens of other options that they have at their disposal. There still is no confirmation anywhere that I am aware of the Spurs wanting that deal for salary purposes. If indeed that is the case, the Bulls have plenty of players to make such a deal as the Rockets had done. Anyway, Pax is a good GM in my book, but sometimes his hesitations piss me off. He isn't aggressive in the market.
     
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    Is Scola still under contract with a Spanish team? I'm not quite sure why he didn't just play with the Spurs.
     
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    ...Time to bring Mario Austin over? [​IMG]
     

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