Stein on Belinelli

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  1. Clif25

    Clif25 JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "Marc Stein/ESPN":</div><div class="quote_post">My favorite import: Marco Belinelli


    It's simply impossible not to pick the Italian. He's become such an instant favorite with the Vegas crowds -- averaging 25.0 points through three games and generally commanding Best Player So Far status from coaches and personnel types in attendance -- that most of his misses from outside are met with a disappointed groan from fans.


    Ever since that 14-for-20 shooting spree in Belinelli's 37-point opener, the locals apparently think that Golden State's No. 18 pick is supposed to make every shot.


    "But he's not just a shooter," said one Western Conference executive. "Don't be mistaken. He had [Philadelphia's Rodney] Carney isolated at the top of the key, beat him with a super crossover and finished at the rim over two people. He's going to fit right into the way Golden State plays. And he's not as bad defensively as people thought. Philly tried to iso him a few times in that game and he did a decent job."

    Yi Jianlian hasn't made a great percentage of shots, but he has looked good in flashes.
    Yet I insist on a Yi mention as well, even though he has struggled unimaginably from the field (26.1 percent) while averaging 13.8 points in four games for team China. His movement, if not quite mechanical, seems a little strained at times to me, but Yi knows what to do with the ball and hasn't backed down in his new environment. When you add up Yi's size, youth and his smooth, high-release, high-arching jumper -- and when you remember that China still doesn't have a single guard who can make the game easier and thus make him look good -- you start to understand why the Bucks were willing to draft a guy they're not even sure they can get to Milwaukee.

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    My favorite shooter: Belinelli</div>

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/stor...ht&lid=tab2pos1

    I like what I read from him about Marco's game. I missed his dunk over two guys. I wish I saw that one.
     
  2. HiRez

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    His rebounding has me a little worried. I know, he's not a post player, but still, 1-2 rebounds a game is not good, and one thing JRich did give us is pretty good rebounding. With Harrington doing similar, it could get ugly. Also, he hasn't exactly been on fire from the freethrow line, another thing the Warriors desperately need. Don't want to get too down on him, he is definitely skilled and it's early, but it's not all great either.
     
  3. Run BJM

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    <div class="quote_poster">HiRez Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">His rebounding has me a little worried. I know, he's not a post player, but still, 1-2 rebounds a game is not good, and one thing JRich did give us is pretty good rebounding. With Harrington doing similar, it could get ugly. Also, he hasn't exactly been on fire from the freethrow line, another thing the Warriors desperately need. Don't want to get too down on him, he is definitely skilled and it's early, but it's not all great either.</div>

    Yeah, Nellie already said openly that we need a rebounding SF. Hopefully we can sign one of Barnes, Desmond Mason, Reuben Patterson, James Posey, Jumaine Jones, etc. for cheap and they can fill that void.

    Also agree about Belinelli's FT shooting. At this point I think he'd be better off curling off of the people lined up to rebound, catching the bounce pass from the ref and shooting a fade away FT.
     
  4. Custodianrules2

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    It's summer league, I'm sure he'll do fine, HiRez. They call the summer league games a lot differently so sometimes they can't rebound if they stop the play constantly. Also, JRich was a top rebounding guard in the league. It's hard to get to his level because he's a walking pogo stick with plenty of strength. I suppose if Belinelli bulks up like him or Steve Francis, Paul Pierce, then maybe? <[​IMG] I hope Bell at least gets to 3-4 defensive rebounds a game.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Clif25 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/stor...ht&lid=tab2pos1

    I like what I read from him about Marco's game. I missed his dunk over two guys. I wish I saw that one.</div>

    You can see it, all the games are archived online. Go here, click on the link to watch the Philly game. The play is at the 1:26 mark of the fourth quarter. For more Belinelli fun, open up the box score in another window, switch it over to play by play to see when Belinelli did all his scoring, and watch all the highlights you want. Warning though: while the crossover is really nice, he doesn't dunk it, he lays it off the glass. He's much more of a finesse guy than a power finisher.

    By the way, Chris Sheridian said in chat today that he's already made up his mind: Belinelli is his pick for rookie of the year.
     
  6. HiRez

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    Hmm, Belinelli vs. Seattle 39 minutes 6-22 FG and 0-9 from outside...ugh. And again...ONE REBOUND. Yeah, I'm concerned. He's averaging 1.8 rebounds a game in 38 minutes of play in Summer League (vs. sub-NBA competition), that's terrible. I think maybe the thing I would like most about KG is consistency. Right now the Warriors have precious little of that, with almost all their players its hard to know what to expect every night, and that's what leads to a lot of those head-scratching Warrior losses such as 20-point blowouts in Portland. Biedrins has probably been the most consistent but we need more of it.
     
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    Belinelli doesn't play inside -- he was guarding Durant, who stayed on the perimeter all night. He wasn't really in a position to grab boards. But he won't be getting 5 or 6 a game like JRich, anyway. He's tall but he's a PURE guard, not a forward-turned-into-guard like JRich was.

    And yes, he was cold as ICE last night, but it was just one game. He was hot as HELL that first game he dropped 37. He's going to have his ups and downs, but it's just summer league.
     
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    0-9 threes? Thats like a Dunleavy stat [​IMG]
     
  9. Legacy

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    <div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">0-9 threes? Thats like a Dunleavy stat [​IMG]</div>

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    Never compare Belinelli with Dunleavy! You'll jinx him. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Legacy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">[​IMG]

    Never compare Belinelli with Dunleavy! You'll jinx him. [​IMG]</div>

    We heard of Belinelli and Nellibelli (Nelson's belly), so I'm sure Marco is going to fit right in.

    Marco's nick is Nelli, so there may even be some confusion in the locker room, but Marco will be the one who can shoot the ball, drive, and lessen the load on Baron. Nellie will be the guy with the belly.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It's summer league, I'm sure he'll do fine, HiRez. They call the summer league games a lot differently so sometimes they can't rebound if they stop the play constantly. Also, JRich was a top rebounding guard in the league. It's hard to get to his level because he's a walking pogo stick with plenty of strength. I suppose if Belinelli bulks up like him or Steve Francis, Paul Pierce, then maybe? <[​IMG] I hope Bell at least gets to 3-4 defensive rebounds a game.</div>

    Rebounding is in large part about wanting it more and thinking a step ahead. There is no physical prototype. Eddy Curry can't board as well as Kidd or as Charles Barkley did

    As for Belli...he rebounds if it hits him in the hands. He CAN shoot....but that 0-9 from 3pt show says a lot. With luck....his shooting is less streaky. A Chucker is not what's needed. If he WANTS to be a total player-he has a decent start. If not......[​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">0-9 threes? Thats like a Dunleavy stat [​IMG]</div>


    actually, 0-7 is a Dunleavy stat. I guess he knew when to quit.[​IMG]
     
  13. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">REREM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Rebounding is in large part about wanting it more and thinking a step ahead. There is no physical prototype. Eddy Curry can't board as well as Kidd or as Charles Barkley did
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    True, but it doesn't make it any easier if the rebounder physically can't handle the contact or getting knocked around. That does affect the mindset somewhat as people won't try what they physically can't handle as well. Guys like Kidd or Garnett are very strong for their size and weight, that's all I'm saying. Guys like Curry are just really lazy. But I think strength does matter when it comes to supporting that mindset to get that ball. So the physical prototype is to be a strong player.
     

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