KG Wants To Stay

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Timberwolves kept star Kevin Garnett apprised of trade inquiries before the recent NBA draft, but Garnett expressed a preference to remain in Minnesota.

    "His preference was that we not trade him," Wolves owner Glen Taylor said.

    Speaking publicly for the first time since the draft, Taylor said Monday, a day after returning from a three-week honeymoon in China, that he never sought to trade Garnett, 31, but for the first time decided to listen more seriously to what teams had to offer.

    "In the past, teams had asked me, and I just said, 'No, we're not interested,' " Taylor said. "But this time, I was going to be more involved and said we probably should just see if something makes sense for us.

    "I talked to K.G. about it; I said, 'You're going to hear a lot of (rumors) stuff, but I'll call you if something really happens.' I just asked him (about a trade), and he'd say, 'No, I haven't changed my mind.'

    "I said, 'We're probably going to bring in (top draft pick Corey) Brewer with one more young guy, so you've got young guys, and you're going to have a younger team.' And he said, 'I don't think I mind playing with those guys.'

    "In the end, nothing really happened." </div>

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    PG - Randy Foye
    SG - Rashad McCants
    SF - Corey Brewer
    PF - Kevin Garnett
    C - Mark Blount

    Or if they want to run, they could put Smith at the 4 and Garnett at Center. If Foye and McCants develop like they are expected, this team could surprise some people.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Bobcats Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">PG - Randy Foye
    SG - Rashad McCants
    SF - Corey Brewer
    PF - Kevin Garnett
    C - Mark Blount

    Or if they want to run, they could put Smith at the 4 and Garnett at Center. If Foye and McCants develop like they are expected, this team could surprise some people.</div>

    1 - I agree and think the team could surprise people (barring injuries) and become another name that people say when they think of teams to deal with in the West.

    2 - Love the Sig. A lot of the youngsters don't remember. I still listen to "Still A N$*#&" for memories.
     
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    Another thing about this year is we are actually gonna have a solid bench with tons of veteran leadership. We will have
    Hudson
    Hassell-i actually hope he starts over brewer or mccants but the way brewer is playing i doubt it
    Ricky Davis-I hope he is coming off the bench
    Either Blount or Smith
    Juwan Howard

    That is a really solid bench with tons of experience. KG should be plenty happy this year. I think our big x-factor this year is Mccants. If he finally takes his game to the next level I think we could really turn some heads.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">TheFreshPrince Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Another thing about this year is we are actually gonna have a solid bench with tons of veteran leadership. We will have
    Hudson
    Hassell-i actually hope he starts over brewer or mccants but the way brewer is playing i doubt it
    Ricky Davis-I hope he is coming off the bench
    Either Blount or Smith
    Juwan Howard

    That is a really solid bench with tons of experience. KG should be plenty happy this year. I think our big x-factor this year is Mccants. If he finally takes his game to the next level I think we could really turn some heads.</div>

    Remember when Ricky D was in line as sixth man of the year? I think that would be a good place for him. I still have little love for McCants. I will have to see a lot from him, consistently, before I would back him. And when I say consistently...I almost mean IN A SINGLE GAME. I know guys are streaky, but when they get hot, they get hot. I've yet to see Rashad get hot. I would still start Hassell because of his post play alone. I don't know if Hudson wanted to leave because he thought KG was leaving or if he still does. The team we have is not going to win it all, but I could see them upsetting someone via GSW. With a little luck, via Cavs, they could move up if there were an injury to a star or finding a favorable match-up. I think it will take some time to jell into a cohesive unit but they could make a run after the All-Star break.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Sabretooth Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Remember when Ricky D was in line as sixth man of the year? I think that would be a good place for him. I still have little love for McCants. I will have to see a lot from him, consistently, before I would back him. And when I say consistently...I almost mean IN A SINGLE GAME. I know guys are streaky, but when they get hot, they get hot. I've yet to see Rashad get hot. I would still start Hassell because of his post play alone. I don't know if Hudson wanted to leave because he thought KG was leaving or if he still does. The team we have is not going to win it all, but I could see them upsetting someone via GSW. With a little luck, via Cavs, they could move up if there were an injury to a star or finding a favorable match-up. I think it will take some time to jell into a cohesive unit but they could make a run after the All-Star break.</div>

    I totally agree. I think Hassell will be a starter and i really hope Brewer starts over RD for chemistry reasons. Ricky never really seemed to jell with anyone on our team.

    Hudson i believe wanted to leave to get minutes. But with mike james gone, i see him getting the minutes he wanted here. I left Jaric out of there who hopefully can be trade for a solid vet and a 1st round pick [​IMG] lol o wait we did that already. I hope we don't give him another chance this year. He really just isn't bad or good at anything. He is just a waste of space mostly.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">TheFreshPrince Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Hudson i believe wanted to leave to get minutes. But with mike james gone, i see him getting the minutes he wanted here. I left Jaric out of there who hopefully can be trade for a solid vet and a 1st round pick [​IMG] lol o wait we did that already. I hope we don't give him another chance this year. He really just isn't bad or good at anything. He is just a waste of space mostly.</div>

    The Wolves were saying that they see Jaric as the backup to Foye and may try to find a 3rd Point just in case....

    www.twincities.com/timberwolves/ci_6377645

    The Wolves consider Marko Jaric, not Troy Hudson, Foye's backup. That's no doubt because Hudson's agent, Bill Neff, told Wolves owner Glen Taylor the veteran wants to be traded.

    The Wolves could have a difficult time finding a team to take Hudson, who averaged just 5.9 points a game last season. He is owed almost $19 million for the next three seasons.

    That sounds like they are indeed planning on moving Hudson or just severing ties somehow. I don't understand why they do not see that Marko cannot pass and would be blown away by other points because he isn't laterally quick. He's got good hands to get into the passing lane and could defend SF's. Troy didn't get a lot of time last season but looked like a contributor when he did.
     
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    ^^ Yeah, I really don't get why we are giving him another chance. He isn't pg. Maybe somehow taylor or mchale don't want to make the cassell trade look any worse than it was or something. Hudson is definitely a better pg than jaric. Hands down.
     
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    KG is content with being a losser his whole career how sad.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">amador08 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">KG is content with being a losser his whole career how sad.</div>

    Care to discuss that a little more deeply? I didn't know that a league mvp, all-star game mvp, and a trip to the wcf was a loser? Also making the playoffs 7-8 straight times with a team that was never there before with sub par talent the entire time doesn't sound too bad to me.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">TheFreshPrince Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Care to discuss that a little more deeply? I didn't know that a league mvp, all-star game mvp, and a trip to the wcf was a loser? Also making the playoffs 7-8 straight times with a team that was never there before with sub par talent the entire time doesn't sound too bad to me.</div>

    What I think he's saying is that since KG hasn't packed up and said I want to leave the place that made him, that he's destined to be a loser. Unlike some other players, KG doesn't talk to hear himself talk and state that he wants to leave and then he doesn't. Then calls out management (which he has every right to and EVERYONE KNOWS IT) just to apologize after. Answer me this, if everyone...AND I MEAN EVERYONE knows how inept McHale is....does KG have to say a word? I didn't think so. The fact of the matter is this, it shows the difference of people.

    In one scenario, Robin wanted to get rid of Batman and "be the man" (when people like KG and McGrady said watch what you ask for) and now he's complaining and whining to the media.

    In a second scenario, a player knows the efforts of his work show throughout whatever garbage he currently resides in. As a show of respect, and because he doesn't have to, he doesn't come out and voice his frustrations in an outright attack. He speaks of respect for the organization that made him and where he is the king. He hasn't said if he'll opt out yet and if another year passes with the same result, fans would almost shoo him away. No matter where he went, the TC would blow up every time he came to town.

    If he wants a ring, I believe he'd have to go somewhere else. He's already shown it's not about the money by taking a pay cut. If it's about the love of the game and the fans that treat you like a king, I think he should stay because we love him here. And unlike some other players fans, we're not oblivious and think KG is some kind of god.

    Anyway, when you look at the points I just presented, it's in Taylor's hands if McHale fails again to cut him. KG has already shown his value to the franchise. What has McHale really been able to show?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Sabretooth Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">1 - I agree and think the team could surprise people (barring injuries) and become another name that people say when they think of teams to deal with in the West.

    2 - Love the Sig. A lot of the youngsters don't remember. I still listen to "Still A N$*#&" for memories.</div>

    Easily one of his top 3 songs. Love that one.

    Anyways, McHale has got off to a good start this offseason by drafting Corey Brewer and trading James for Howard. Hopefully he can get rid of another bad contract (Jaric or Hudson) to go with Ricky Davis' expiring contract as the main trade bait. But if they don't show good progress I think KG would be stupid to not opt out of his contract next summer.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Sabretooth Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What I think he's saying is that since KG hasn't packed up and said I want to leave the place that made him, that he's destined to be a loser. Unlike some other players, KG doesn't talk to hear himself talk and state that he wants to leave and then he doesn't. Then calls out management (which he has every right to and EVERYONE KNOWS IT) just to apologize after. Answer me this, if everyone...AND I MEAN EVERYONE knows how inept McHale is....does KG have to say a word? I didn't think so. The fact of the matter is this, it shows the difference of people.

    In one scenario, Robin wanted to get rid of Batman and "be the man" (when people like KG and McGrady said watch what you ask for) and now he's complaining and whining to the media.

    In a second scenario, a player knows the efforts of his work show throughout whatever garbage he currently resides in. As a show of respect, and because he doesn't have to, he doesn't come out and voice his frustrations in an outright attack. He speaks of respect for the organization that made him and where he is the king. He hasn't said if he'll opt out yet and if another year passes with the same result, fans would almost shoo him away. No matter where he went, the TC would blow up every time he came to town.

    If he wants a ring, I believe he'd have to go somewhere else. He's already shown it's not about the money by taking a pay cut. If it's about the love of the game and the fans that treat you like a king, I think he should stay because we love him here. And unlike some other players fans, we're not oblivious and think KG is some kind of god.

    Anyway, when you look at the points I just presented, it's in Taylor's hands if McHale fails again to cut him. KG has already shown his value to the franchise. What has McHale really been able to show?</div>

    That's what i thought he was saying, i would just prefer some more intelligent conversations here. We hardly get any discussions as it is lol. I think that KG should be admired for being loyal rather than looked down on for not being selfish. I mean how twisted is that? The media just assumes that KG is gonna be selfish and demand a trade. It's annoying that guys like Francis and Kobe make more headlines than KG.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">TheFreshPrince Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's what i thought he was saying, i would just prefer some more intelligent conversations here. We hardly get any discussions as it is lol. I think that KG should be admired for being loyal rather than looked down on for not being selfish. I mean how twisted is that? The media just assumes that KG is gonna be selfish and demand a trade. It's annoying that guys like Francis and Kobe make more headlines than KG.</div>

    You have to remember, if his goal IS a ring then would it be selfish to go in a direction in where that is an actual possibility? Even if they did make a move in the playoffs, there's no way (barring every powerhouse in the West having legitimate injuries) that they'd make it far. I think everyone is just going to let KG play out his contract and see then. I don't know if they can or want to make a move.
     
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    ^^I think he is going to finish out his contract. I doubt a deal goes through that would help the timberwolves at all and gives KG a shot at a title. Hopefully he can go somewhere once he opts and play for a title.

    And yes it IS selfish. He signed a contract. I know our management didn't exactly hold up their end of the deal but he agreed to stay here this long. If he didn't want to be stuck here he shouldn't of signed such a long contract. That is what's wrong with athletes today. They just assume if they aren't getting exactly what they want then they don't have to live up to their end of the deal.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">TheFreshPrince Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^^And yes it IS selfish. He signed a contract. I know our management didn't exactly hold up their end of the deal but he agreed to stay here this long.</div>

    I agree with you in principle but I believe his situation is different which is another reason I personally respect him. Unlike some other players he didn't go through his career complaining that he hasn't had the help and threatening to force a trade. You'd believe management told him that they were going to surround him with talent to get him a ring. He's only had 1 reasonable chance but have you heard him calling out management? Also, the contract that he signed gave him permission to seek and opt-out on the final year, so he has honored the contract that he signed with minimal complaint (when he worded his frustration in the interview).

    On a side note, would you think it would help the league to put wording in the contracts that would make all contracts bonus driven? Meaning that if the player meets certain standards, they'd get the full amount versus a "Mike James" who can play like gold in a renewal season and take a nap after. That way you could have a certain price level to pay all players, even elite players, and add bonuses that can add up to their current salaries. You will also see better play because it's about the money now. Usually elite players play at a high level anyway...but you get what I mean.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Sabretooth Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I agree with you in principle but I believe his situation is different which is another reason I personally respect him. Unlike some other players he didn't go through his career complaining that he hasn't had the help and threatening to force a trade. You'd believe management told him that they were going to surround him with talent to get him a ring. He's only had 1 reasonable chance but have you heard him calling out management? Also, the contract that he signed gave him permission to seek and opt-out on the final year, so he has honored the contract that he signed with minimal complaint (when he worded his frustration in the interview).

    On a side note, would you think it would help the league to put wording in the contracts that would make all contracts bonus driven? Meaning that if the player meets certain standards, they'd get the full amount versus a "Mike James" who can play like gold in a renewal season and take a nap after. That way you could have a certain price level to pay all players, even elite players, and add bonuses that can add up to their current salaries. You will also see better play because it's about the money now. Usually elite players play at a high level anyway...but you get what I mean.</div>

    I think that that is a great idea. That would help out owners and players so much it's not even funny. But, it also lets owners off the hook. Now, all these "potential" players can just sit on the bench making pretty much no money until they are ready so that would save an organization a lot of money. I like the idea but i can see a lot of grievances being filed because teams will bench guys to try to save money. Maybe not though
     

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