NJ Nets Debate Round 1: Matchup #3

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  1. The Legend

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    <div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">First off, MJ is Magic Johnson not Michael Jordan. Just to clarify it. Yes the Big O did avg. a triple double. But you can't say he would be able to do it today which takes away from his brilliance. PGs primarily pass. That's why Mark Jackson would be ranked higher than Kidd. Yes Kidd does more than Jackson, but Mark passed well and still scored. Kidd didn't have a supporting cast. He did have Kenyon Martin, RJ, and Mutombo. Yes Kidd got more rebounds than Stockton. That's one stat though. Stockton got more steals than Kidd. So that's another stat. They both pass brilliantly even though Stockton avgs. more assists and they both aren't much for scoring. That's why I rank Stockton higher than Kidd. Isiah Thomas led his team to a championship against some great teams like the Lakers, Portland, Chicago, and Boston. Those teams were very hard today and most of them besides Portland rank higher than the Lakers the Nets faced. Possibly even the Spurs with Chicago and Boston.</div>

    I still cannot believe your putting Mark Jackson at #2 on the all time list. Anyway... Oscar Robertson and Magic Johnson are both better then Kidd, I already stated that. I disagree with you on the supporting cast. If we had replaced Stockton with Kidd on that Nets team. I do not think they would have the same sucess that they did. Kidd makes everybody around him much better. A really young RJ, a inury prone K-Mart, and an old Mutombo is not as good as a Malone at his prime and all of Utah's solid role players at thier primes. That is to say again, if we replaced Kidd with Stockton on the Utah team, I think Kidd could have been the better PG to Malone and would have made all of the solid role players better.

    My all-time top 5 would be.

    1.Oscar Robertson
    2.Magic Johnson
    3.Jason Kidd
    4.John Stockton
    5.Isiah Thomas
     
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    Jackson over Kidd are you series even though Jackson was a great player i still wouldn't put him on top of Kidd your talking of a guy that played with almost every team and is best at playing more games while Kidd accomplish greater stuff that him like more triple-doubles than him thats better than assist even though thats what PG do.
     
  3. CLos

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    <div class="quote_poster">Dark Hero Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">to CLos

    Jackson over Kidd are you series even though Jackson was a great player i still wouldn't put him on top of Kidd your talking of a guy that played with almost every team and is best at playing more games while Kidd accomplish greater stuff that him like more triple-doubles than him thats better than assist even though thats what PG do.</div>

    Yes, Mark Jackson. Why because he's #2 on the all-time assists list. Why put him that high over Kidd?? Because PGs pass and he's obviously known for it. As of now Mark Jackson is higher. If Kidd does more in his great career, then he could obviously surpass him. As of now I'm saying he's higher. Mark Jackson was also a very good underrated defender. You guys are looking at him being one dimensional.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheLegend:</div><div class="quote_post">I still cannot believe your putting Mark Jackson at #2 on the all time list. Anyway... Oscar Robertson and Magic Johnson are both better then Kidd, I already stated that. I disagree with you on the supporting cast. If we had replaced Stockton with Kidd on that Nets team. I do not think they would have the same sucess that they did. Kidd makes everybody around him much better. A really young RJ, a inury prone K-Mart, and an old Mutombo is not as good as a Malone at his prime and all of Utah's solid role players at thier primes. That is to say again, if we replaced Kidd with Stockton on the Utah team, I think Kidd could have been the better PG to Malone and would have made all of the solid role players better.

    My all-time top 5 would be.

    1.Oscar Robertson
    2.Magic Johnson
    3.Jason Kidd
    4.John Stockton
    5.Isiah Thomas</div>


    Hold up a sec Legend. I didn't say he was #2 on my list. I said he's above Kidd. My list:

    1.John Stockton
    2.Magic Johnson
    3.Isiah Thomas
    4.Mark Jackson
    5.Jason Kidd

    I would want to put Oscar Robertson soo bad on the list, but previously stated above I have decided not to.

    How can you say an injury prone KMart?? He wasn't injured in the championship. He was like a consistent 17ppg player alongside Kidd. Also, RJ was inexperienced, I'll give you that, but his still contributed. Also, an old Mutombo?? The guy avg. like 13rpg in the playoffs that year and was always getting blocks. He was a true center for them and was an underrated scorer. How could you say Kidd would have been better for the Jazz?? Stockton is the best PG at the pick-and-roll which Stockton and Malone was constantly. Also, Stockton was a very good defensive player. Kidd would have done solid but they still would have lost. I think with Stockton's hustling and solid play the Nets would have one at least one game against the Lakers.
     
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