<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">He said he would not necessarily move other point guards, but the Miami Heat have expressed interest in Rafer Alston, with forward Udonis Haslem and center Michael Doleac among the names discussed.</div> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4987190.html With Haslem on board that would push Hayes back even further. Might be a good move tho.
I think Haslem is wishful thinking if the main piece going to Miami is Alston. Haslem has been a major contributor for the Miami Heat, and is the perfect compliment for Shaq at the PF position. Haslem chases down the rebounds Shaq can't get to, and Haslem cleans up nicely on the weakside when Shaq draws the double team and throws up a brick. Haslem can also step out and hit from 17 feet comfortably. Haslem took a discount to stay in Miami and the Heat would have to rely on Antoine Walker to play starter minutes if Haslem was dealt. The only logical sense would be if the Heat are looking ahead to next summer already and are trying to get as far under the cap as possible to sign another big time free agent. The Heat have about $10M in cap space next summer, and dealing Haslem for Alston would save them another $2M.
I hope we don't ask for Udonis haslem or michael doleac i hope we ask for dorell wright and wayne simien.
<div class="quote_poster">tinyballer Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I hope we don't ask for Udonis haslem or michael doleac i hope we ask for dorell wright and wayne simien.</div> I think Miami wants to dump salary so that's why they're offering Haslem. If this deal does go thru I wonder what our depth chart at the 4 would look like.
<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I proposed this trade and got laughed at. Good to see it's a real possibility now.</div> I bet you forsaw the signing of Francis. The only way this trade would have been possible is because Francis signed. Don't take credit for stupid things. You just threw in a bunch of names and said lets get them. Alston wasn't even on the trading block at the time, so Haslem would have been impossible to get without Alston. You never even came up with a trade proposal. You really are full of **** you know that?
<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I proposed this trade and got laughed at. Good to see it's a real possibility now.</div> When you proposed the trade...you got laughed at because it seemed so prepostorous(spelling?) at the time. Now the miami is in desperate need for a PG, they can give us Haslem and dump salary. I'll give you the fact that your either really good at forseeing the future or you got lucky, but fact of matter is...you did predict it. ON THAT NOTE, i could be an a** and ask for the quote of when you said it and link, but ill give you the benefit of the doubt.
<div class="quote_poster">TmacGarnett Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">When you proposed the trade...you got laughed at because it seemed so prepostorous(spelling?) at the time. Now the miami is in desperate need for a PG, they can give us Haslem and dump salary. I'll give you the fact that your either really good at forseeing the future or you got lucky, but fact of matter is...you did predict it. ON THAT NOTE, i could be an a** and ask for the quote of when you said it and link, but ill give you the benefit of the doubt.</div> He didn't forsee crap. He just threw a bunch of names out. It was by sheer luck that he was right about one of them, not some inside knowledge. He never even mentioned that we would obtain Haslem. He just put out a list of options that he thought could help us. At the time he proposed it, we had nobody worthy that Miami would consider that was available for trade. The idea that we would have traded Alston without signing Francis is preposterous.
<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">LMAO, just give my man Rock4Life some props, hahaha.</div> I don't know. If you feed his ego any more, he might just explode.
<div class="quote_poster">foo82 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He didn't forsee crap. He just threw a bunch of names out. It was by sheer luck that he was right about one of them, not some inside knowledge. He never even mentioned that we would obtain Haslem. He just put out a list of options that he thought could help us. At the time he proposed it, we had nobody worthy that Miami would consider that was available for trade. The idea that we would have traded Alston without signing Francis is preposterous.</div> Hmmm, a thread was made a while back about a hoopsworld guy's piece on how the Rockets should trade Alston for Haslem. Apparently Rock4life saw that and took it as "credible insider information", and so he saw it in his crystal ball.
Haslem for Alston? buwhahahahaha... There is a huge logjam however on the Houston roster, so hopefully we'll see a couple trades before then.
LOL @ Rock. Seriously dude, you wonder why we gang up on you? Any humble guy would've let it go and not gone with the "i told you so" story, but you couldn't resist could you?
I really hope it is not for Doleac and Haslem. I don't see what we get in doleac and Haslem that we do not already have. What Doleac does Butler can do when given the chance plus Butler is young. What Haslem has Scolas has more. Haslem has mid ranged jumper Scola has that. Scola is also better on offence and is pretty descent on defence though not as good rebounding but i still do not think it worth it got him. If it is a deal to Miami i prefer a deal for Dorell Wright and Wayne Simien. Two guys that have not been given minutes with a chance of producing. Simien i believe can produce as much as haslem when given the opurtunity. Wright i believe could be another asset for us to play an uptempo system.
If they are willing to give up Haslem, I'm sure they'll be asking for either Brooks or Head in the deal.
No. It's just funny to me that I can throw out a scenario and catch all kinda flak for it. But as soon as the source becomes credible, everybody's back on the bandwagon. <div class="quote_poster">foo82 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He didn't forsee crap. He just threw a bunch of names out. It was by sheer luck that he was right about one of them, not some inside knowledge. He never even mentioned that we would obtain Haslem. He just put out a list of options that he thought could help us. At the time he proposed it, we had nobody worthy that Miami would consider that was available for trade. The idea that we would have traded Alston without signing Francis is preposterous.</div> Things Rock4life's have prematurley stated: -The firing of JVG -Golden State upset of Dallas (caught flak for that as well) -Miami championship (predicted that in offseason) -JVG's personal grudge against Bonzi (leading to his lengthy time on the inactive list) There are all things I stated and guys like Foo82 called me crazy for. Now he's just shifted his criticism to another thread. Not surprised Seriously, Haslem is better than Scola and Hayes put together. I don't know why some of you assume Scola's that damn good, but Haslem is OBVIOUS the better option as a starter (plus an NBA title to prove it)
<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No. It's just funny to me that I can throw out a scenario and catch all kinda flak for it. But as soon as the source becomes credible, everybody's back on the bandwagon. Things Rock4life's have prematurley stated: -The firing of JVG</div>Yea, cause you were the only one who felt he'd get fired, I'm sure. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">-Golden State upset of Dallas (caught flak for that as well)</div>And again, a ton of people predicted this. Don't act like a damn mind-reader for it. Plus, it's all luck that you were right. Dallas played like trash, and GS played great. L-U-C-K, luck. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">-Miami championship (predicted that in offseason) </div>Again, sheer luck. And by the way, I'd like a link to this thread, cause I really don't know if I should believe you here. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">-JVG's personal grudge against Bonzi (leading to his lengthy time on the inactive list)</div>And where's the proof of this? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">There are all things I stated and guys like Foo82 called me crazy for. Now he's just shifted his criticism to another thread. Not surprised Seriously, Haslem is better than Scola and Hayes put together. I don't know why some of you assume Scola's that damn good, but Haslem is OBVIOUS the better option as a starter (plus an NBA title to prove it)</div>And I love how you bring one thread up in another. Why do people assume Scola is good? Well, there's a lot more evidence for it than against it. Two Spanish League MVPs, Olympic champion, played pro overseas for a decade, etc. Why do you think he's not worth a damn? There's no evidence of it and you've really never given a reason, but that argument is an entirely different thread, so I'll end it at this. And as for Haslem, you bring up an NBA title. How does that prove he's better? Because he played on a team with Shaq and Wade? Because he played such a huge part in winning that title. Last I knew, if it wasn't for Wade averaging what, nearly 40ppg in their four wins over Dallas, they wouldn't have done anything. Had Wade not went on a complete tear, Dallas would have likely ended it in 5. I don't see where Haslem was such a huge part that you can bring up his NBA title.
<div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Things Rock4life's have prematurley stated: -The firing of JVG -Golden State upset of Dallas (caught flak for that as well) -Miami championship (predicted that in offseason) -JVG's personal grudge against Bonzi (leading to his lengthy time on the inactive list) There are all things I stated and guys like Foo82 called me crazy for. Now he's just shifted his criticism to another thread. Not surprised Seriously, Haslem is better than Scola and Hayes put together. I don't know why some of you assume Scola's that damn good, but Haslem is OBVIOUS the better option as a starter (plus an NBA title to prove it)</div> You also said Stromile Swift was a great acquisition for the Rockets and would vault them to the top of the West. Then you said that the Grizzlies got the better end of the Gay-Battier trade. Not only did you just say those things, but you wasted hours of my time debating me on both. Good calls.
They just signed Smush Parker, they may not need Alston but I hope they can take Alston out of our hands.
