Ok, I understand that Jackson has won 9 titles using the famous triangle offense. I just don't understand why he is still sticking with it. He obviously doesn't have the personnel to run it well enough to win a title right now. Plus, I am hearing a lot of trade rumors being turned down by fans on this board talking about how that trade won't help because it will take the new player way too long to learn the triangle offense. You guys have the most talented guard in the league in Kobe. Why not just try to put enough talent around him to win and let Kobe go crazy. Maybe I'm totally wrong, but it seems to me that you guys aren't going anywhere trying to stick with the triangle offense. You don't have that incredible two player combo (Jordan, Pippen or Shaq, Kobe) along with the perfect role players (Rodman, Harper, Kukoc, Kerr, even Longley or Fischer, Fox, Harper again, along with a few more I can't seem to remember anymore) to win a championship in my opinion. So, what do you guys think?
I think it would be pointless to abandon the triangle offense at this point. We just resigned Luke Walton to a 6 year deal, and Walton is most effective in the triangle offense, hence why he was a horrible fit when Rudy T was coaching. Plus, we've just signed Derek Fisher, who has had tons of triangle experience. Not to mention we drafted 6'5 point guard Javaris Crittenton who ran the triangle in high school. Lamar Odom also has 2 years of triangle offense under his belt, and most say players reach their full potential under their 3rd year of the triangle offense.
You make some good points but I'm guessing the plan when Jackson came back to the team was to teach the triangle to all the new guys who were coming in to "help" Kobe out. Brian is right with all the points he made plus Kwame played alright in it as well when Mihm went down and he had to play C.
Those are some good points brian but do you really think that this is a championship caliber team? I mean according to most lakers fan it takes a good two years or so to completely learn this offense. I'm thinking you guys are at least one, maybe two players away from winning a title your way. acquiring those guys will realistically take about two years with some luck, add another two years for those players to learn the offense and that's 4 years if you get some luck in free agency, the draft, or trades. Idk, it just seems like to me a combo of kobe and odom can do a better with just a regular offense centered around Kobe. Plus you wouldn't have to be so particular in acquiring guys to fit your offense. Also think of how many trades or free agents or draft picks that the lakers haven't made because of the triangle offense. Again just a thought
<div class="quote_poster">TheFreshPrince Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Those are some good points brian but do you really think that this is a championship caliber team? I mean according to most lakers fan it takes a good two years or so to completely learn this offense. I'm thinking you guys are at least one, maybe two players away from winning a title your way. acquiring those guys will realistically take about two years with some luck, add another two years for those players to learn the offense and that's 4 years if you get some luck in free agency, the draft, or trades. Idk, it just seems like to me a combo of kobe and odom can do a better with just a regular offense centered around Kobe. Plus you wouldn't have to be so particular in acquiring guys to fit your offense. Also think of how many trades or free agents or draft picks that the lakers haven't made because of the triangle offense. Again just a thought</div> There's a lot of misconceptions about the Triangle offense. All the elements of the Triangle offense are fundamentals of the game. Create a mismatch to force the opposing team to double team you, and then move the ball to find the open man for a high percentage look. What players struggle with is the terminology used by PJax. It's like learning a new language because you have to know what plays you're going to be running. The main problem I've seen with this current group is the lack of movement off the ball. The Triangle offense falls apart when a teammate isn't reading and reacting to the defense the same way the other 4 guys on the court are. This is where chemistry and team cohesive plays a major role in the success of the Triangle offense. The longer a group of people play together the better understanding you have of their tendencies and where they are most effective at on the court. Another HUGE misconception is the fact the Lakers don't run the Triangle offense sets 100% of the time. They might run it only 20% of a game, with the other 80% of the offense being made up of fastbreaks, isolation, or busted plays. The Lakers like to operate their Triangle to slow tempo and make each possession count. Usually towards the beginning and end of a game is when the team puts an emphasis on executing the Triangle. If you look at the Lakes scoring compared to the rest of the league, they're one of the top 5 teams. Lakers scored 103.3 per game (ranking 5th), despite all the injuries they endured. Where the Lakers have struggled is on the defensive end. The Lakers gave up 103.4 per game on defense. If your team is allowing over 100PPG to the opponent you'll be lucky to win half your games. The Triangle system is just fine for this group of players. It's a proven offense for regular season, post season, and championship success.
