<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>Kind of like when the Colts got all the calls against the Steelers in the divisional playoffs? So much so that the officials released a statement admitting they were wrong? why didnt the Steelers get the call last thursday that both announcers said was obvious PI? The calls go back and forth dude, they always do.</div> Jumping in...yes, just like the Colts go all the calls against the steelers in the divisional playoffs. The refs did give a lot of calls to the Steelers in the Super Bowl - its really undeniable. That being said, if you look at the history of the posters on this forum (and many of them, like TheBeef have a really great history here) you'll see that ref blaming is not something that is done. It is a factor of the game which an objective fan can point out, but it is not an excuse. And yes, the Steelers should have gotten that PI call, and the Dolphins should have gotten the TD reviewed. So what is the point?</div> He claims the Steelers get all the calls, I claim thats ridiculous
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>He claims the Steelers get all the calls, I claim thats ridiculous</div> I actually said that the Steelers have gotten the majority of the calls in the last 2 games ive watched....READING: Its fundemental!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>He claims the Steelers get all the calls, I claim thats ridiculous</div> I actually said that the Steelers have gotten the majority of the calls in the last 2 games ive watched....READING: Its fundemental!</div> Remember the conversation we had after the super bowl. I told you that usually after a team wins the super bowl some fan comes out of the woodworks and onto the bandwagon to post. They usually only stick around as long as that team is on top, and when they lose they disappear. I would say this bodes well for you getting the last word in.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>He claims the Steelers get all the calls, I claim thats ridiculous</div> He does? I haven't read that...I've read that he thinks in the past couple of games they've gotten the calls. I don't see what's wrong with that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>He claims the Steelers get all the calls, I claim thats ridiculous</div> He does? I haven't read that...I've read that he thinks in the past couple of games they've gotten the calls. I don't see what's wrong with that.</div> If this helps you out MoS STEELERS GET ALL THE CALLS! 739 yards of penalties against them last year. RIDICULOUS. Almost every other team is over a 1000. Just proof that the NFL wants certain teams to win. Fortunately for the sport, best team always overcomes those kind of things. For steelers it must be nice have a downhill roll to vicotry, compared to dolphins uphill climb (1055 yards)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>He claims the Steelers get all the calls, I claim thats ridiculous</div> He does? I haven't read that...I've read that he thinks in the past couple of games they've gotten the calls. I don't see what's wrong with that.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The refs calling a PI in the end zone while a Steeler DB is actually trying to have anal sex with a WR is ridiculous? A ref that calls anything fair when the Steelers are involved...judging by the last 2 steelers games ive seen, that one might be ridiculous....</div> This quote suggests that the Steelers get all the calls am I right? He claims that the last two games he watched support his theory. My response was that the calls go back and forth and I gave examples of calls going against the Steelers. First of all, Miami got as many and probably more calls than Pittsburgh did in the game Thursday and to suggest that there is some sort of conspiracy by the refs to give Pittsburgh more calls than another team is ridiculous. So, your claim that nobody blames the refs for a loss in this forum is incorrect. He brought it up so I refuted it...that was it
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>He claims the Steelers get all the calls, I claim thats ridiculous</div> He does? I haven't read that...I've read that he thinks in the past couple of games they've gotten the calls. I don't see what's wrong with that.</div> If this helps you out MoS STEELERS GET ALL THE CALLS! 739 yards of penalties against them last year. RIDICULOUS. Almost every other team is over a 1000. Just proof that the NFL wants certain teams to win. Fortunately for the sport, best team always overcomes those kind of things. For steelers it must be nice have a downhill roll to vicotry, compared to dolphins uphill climb (1055 yards)</div> This may be the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard. First of all, where are you getting your numbers? I would love to see the link to compare the rest of the teams. Second of all how can you possibly use yardage as proof that one team is favored? That shows that the Steelers are a diciplined team. You also need to consider that many of the examples that people have used to argue are non-calls that won't show up as a stat. Lastly, anyone that says that the Steelers had a "downhill roll" to victory obviously knows nothing about football. The Steelers Super Bowl run was a record setting uphill climb never before seen in the NFL.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>He does? I haven't read that...I've read that he thinks in the past couple of games they've gotten the calls. I don't see what's wrong with that.</div> If this helps you out MoS STEELERS GET ALL THE CALLS! 739 yards of penalties against them last year. RIDICULOUS. Almost every other team is over a 1000. Just proof that the NFL wants certain teams to win. Fortunately for the sport, best team always overcomes those kind of things. For steelers it must be nice have a downhill roll to vicotry, compared to dolphins uphill climb (1055 yards)</div> This may be the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard. First of all, where are you getting your numbers? I would love to see the link to compare the rest of the teams. Second of all how can you possibly use yardage as proof that one team is favored? That shows that the Steelers are a diciplined team. You also need to consider that many of the examples that people have used to argue are non-calls that won't show up as a stat. Lastly, anyone that says that the Steelers had a "downhill roll" to victory obviously knows nothing about football. The Steelers Super Bowl run was a record setting uphill climb never before seen in the NFL.</div> I got stats from NFL.com I dont know if that is "reliable" enough source for you. 2nd, your "lastly . . . never before seen in the NFL." comment is like something the steelers would put in media guide. It definately proves a complete and total lack of bias. I provided stats, you provided media guide quotes. As for steelers being that much more disciplined than every other team, "YEAH RIGHT" Your players are 50% more disciplined.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'> If this helps you out MoS STEELERS GET ALL THE CALLS! 739 yards of penalties against them last year. RIDICULOUS. Almost every other team is over a 1000. Just proof that the NFL wants certain teams to win. Fortunately for the sport, best team always overcomes those kind of things. For steelers it must be nice have a downhill roll to vicotry, compared to dolphins uphill climb (1055 yards)</div> This may be the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard. First of all, where are you getting your numbers? I would love to see the link to compare the rest of the teams. Second of all how can you possibly use yardage as proof that one team is favored? That shows that the Steelers are a diciplined team. You also need to consider that many of the examples that people have used to argue are non-calls that won't show up as a stat. Lastly, anyone that says that the Steelers had a "downhill roll" to victory obviously knows nothing about football. The Steelers Super Bowl run was a record setting uphill climb never before seen in the NFL.</div> I got stats from NFL.com I dont know if that is "reliable" enough source for you. 2nd, your "lastly . . . never before seen in the NFL." comment is like something the steelers would put in media guide. It definately proves a complete and total lack of bias. I provided stats, you provided media guide quotes. As for steelers being that much more disciplined than every other team, "YEAH RIGHT" Your players are 50% more disciplined.</div> I went and checked out the penalty stats from NFL.com. Last year the Steelers had 876 yards in penalties offensively, 11 teams had fewer yards including your Bears. http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/OFF-...=13&_1:col_1=14 Defensively, Pittsburgh had 1031 yards in penalties. Only 5 teams had more yards in penalties. http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-...1=4&_1:col_1=14 Now, why you would flat out lie about stats to try and make an argument about how the Steelers get all the calls is beyond me. You have really showed yourself to be someone that makes a nothing argument based on BS. So you go back and look at the real stats and then tell me again what your argument was.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'> This may be the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard. First of all, where are you getting your numbers? I would love to see the link to compare the rest of the teams. Second of all how can you possibly use yardage as proof that one team is favored? That shows that the Steelers are a diciplined team. You also need to consider that many of the examples that people have used to argue are non-calls that won't show up as a stat. Lastly, anyone that says that the Steelers had a "downhill roll" to victory obviously knows nothing about football. The Steelers Super Bowl run was a record setting uphill climb never before seen in the NFL.</div> I got stats from NFL.com I dont know if that is "reliable" enough source for you. 2nd, your "lastly . . . never before seen in the NFL." comment is like something the steelers would put in media guide. It definately proves a complete and total lack of bias. I provided stats, you provided media guide quotes. As for steelers being that much more disciplined than every other team, "YEAH RIGHT" Your players are 50% more disciplined.</div> I went and checked out the penalty stats from NFL.com. Last year the Steelers had 876 yards in penalties offensively, 11 teams had fewer yards including your Bears. http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/OFF-...=13&_1:col_1=14 Defensively, Pittsburgh had 1031 yards in penalties. Only 5 teams had more yards in penalties. http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-...1=4&_1:col_1=14 Now, why you would flat out lie about stats to try and make an argument about how the Steelers get all the calls is beyond me. You have really showed yourself to be someone that makes a nothing argument based on BS. So you go back and look at the real stats and then tell me again what your argument was.</div> I admit i made a mistake, i read only one side, never even thought to look at defense. I let eye slide a row and read wrong #. No big deal.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'> I got stats from NFL.com I dont know if that is "reliable" enough source for you. 2nd, your "lastly . . . never before seen in the NFL." comment is like something the steelers would put in media guide. It definately proves a complete and total lack of bias. I provided stats, you provided media guide quotes. As for steelers being that much more disciplined than every other team, "YEAH RIGHT" Your players are 50% more disciplined.</div> I went and checked out the penalty stats from NFL.com. Last year the Steelers had 876 yards in penalties offensively, 11 teams had fewer yards including your Bears. http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/OFF-...=13&_1:col_1=14 Defensively, Pittsburgh had 1031 yards in penalties. Only 5 teams had more yards in penalties. http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-...1=4&_1:col_1=14 Now, why you would flat out lie about stats to try and make an argument about how the Steelers get all the calls is beyond me. You have really showed yourself to be someone that makes a nothing argument based on BS. So you go back and look at the real stats and then tell me again what your argument was.</div> I admit i made a mistake, i read only one side, never even thought to look at defense. I let eye slide a row and read wrong #. No big deal.</div> Fair enough. It really is a back and forth game as far as calls go.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'> I went and checked out the penalty stats from NFL.com. Last year the Steelers had 876 yards in penalties offensively, 11 teams had fewer yards including your Bears. http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/OFF-...=13&_1:col_1=14 Defensively, Pittsburgh had 1031 yards in penalties. Only 5 teams had more yards in penalties. http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-...1=4&_1:col_1=14 Now, why you would flat out lie about stats to try and make an argument about how the Steelers get all the calls is beyond me. You have really showed yourself to be someone that makes a nothing argument based on BS. So you go back and look at the real stats and then tell me again what your argument was.</div> I admit i made a mistake, i read only one side, never even thought to look at defense. I let eye slide a row and read wrong #. No big deal.</div> Fair enough. It really is a back and forth game as far as calls go.</div> I still say those stats prove some teams are getting a better shake, i will combine the two charts and post
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'> I admit i made a mistake, i read only one side, never even thought to look at defense. I let eye slide a row and read wrong #. No big deal.</div> Fair enough. It really is a back and forth game as far as calls go.</div> I still say those stats prove some teams are getting a better shake, i will combine the two charts and post</div> It's not a tell tale stat. Only a fraction of those penalties are calls that were controversial. There is really not a huge difference. If you break the yardage difference up into individual games it only comes out to a few penalties. A few penalties can absolutely be chalked up to a more disciplined team not jumping offside, illegal formations, facemasks, obvious holds...those kind things are going to be alot less frequent on a well-disciplined, veteran team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef)</div><div class='quotemain'>Now Manofsteel can come in here and tell us all how the Steelers have great depth at the closet shitter position....much better depth than any of us realize....</div> Let's see.....Willie Parker, Verron Haynes, Duce Staley, Najeh Davenport......hard not to see how good the Steeler RB depth is. Or were you just trying to make some sort of whitty closet joke??</div> (In my best Beetlejuice voice) Scatology. You know I love it. Seriously, when do we revive Abbott & Costello Whose on First? or Beavis & Butthead? I typed Butt, heh heh. Really funny as we are discussing Najeh. ROFL?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef)</div><div class='quotemain'>Steelers fans have suffered more than most over the past 15 years</div> Did those bags cause you to fall asleep during the reign of the vanilla one? ROFL.
