Lakers Could Land Artest and J. O'Neal (Speculation)

^ Oh, what was the package then?

 

I remember the McGrady rumors as well. A Kobe-TMac tandem would have been sick.

 

we aint getting ****. we are the lakers and for some reason everybody hates us so nobody is going to risk helping us through a trade. all we need to do now is see how this next season goes, and let kobe decide if he wants to stay or if he wants to leave, simple, we are stuck in this situation because of how bad the shaq trade was and now we are paying the price. dont think that this team can turn around and become contenders because we're far from it, especially in the western conference. we would need a KG type player to come into this team, while not losing many good players for that player, and have kobe and whoever it is to work extremely well together, just like Kobe and Shaq, like Wade and Shaq, like Duncan and Parker, not only are the two great players so great at basketball, but there games complement each other and work well within a team system, an organized basketball system. Look at melo and AI, two great players, but they dont quite fit together as well as the players that ive mentioned. they are good and win alot of games together but they are unable to compete at the level of teams with amazing duo's (spurs, heat and the 2000-2003 lakers). kobe will find it hard to fit with players because of his attitude towards people, he is a nice guy, but still kind of weird, plus he is a scoring machine and alot of players dont like that. so dont expect much for the lakers, expect a reasonably good season because we do have kobe (for now atleast) and he wont be missing the playoffs any time soon if he continues playing the way he does. but we wont contend for a title, and we probably will be seeing the last of the los angeles kobe bryant's (thank god).

 

The Lakers don't seem to be trying to get anyone. All it is is rumors. Rumors can be expectations down because the deal never happens. Kobe going to Chicago, Walton for Artest, Bynum for O'Neal. All these trade scenarios have been a waste of time to hear.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The Lakers have a shot to get Jason Kidd, Kevin Garnett, Jermaine O'neal, Ron Artest, Carlos Boozer, Tracy McGrady (anyone remember that rumor?)...how about we all put down the crack pipe and realize that we don't got a chance to get anybody. I'm so tired of rumors, I'm so sick of Laker fans expecting to get a super-star player for a big man with potential and a borderline allstar when consistent. We're not getting anybody so let's stop with the expectations. Our starting lineup next year will be:

Derek Fisher
Kobe Bryant
Luke Walton
Lamar Odom
Andrew Bynum

Yes, don't expect to see Kidd, O'neal, Artest, or anybody there. It's not going to happen.

If I am wrong though, I'll gladly admit my wrong.</div>

I could see Kobe and T-Mac. That would be so deadly We would probably need to get a 3rd team involved though.

 

So the original trade proposed has us sending Farmar to the Kings who also get Hedo Turkoglu in exchange for Artest to the Lakers? That's not bad cause they get veteran defense and a promising PG, but it still doesnt' seem like much for Artest.

Also, who's our PG gonna be?

 

After the Magic signed Lewis to that huge contract, I could see this deal goes through. The Magic are on the verge of paying the luxury tax, they need cap relief. The key is actually the Kings, particularly the Maloof brother.

 

Actually, DeVos (owner of the Magic) doesn't mind paying for the luxury tax to acquire Rashard. Who do the Magic get?

 

WOW. Umm.....a beast?? I rather have Fran Vasquez come over than trade Hedo (a good 6th man) for Kwame "Soft as Tissues" Brown.

 

<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Ok you get a "pussycat" as PJax likes to call him, but the real reason Orlando would want Kwame is his $9M expiring contract. There's also a chance he tries extra hard since this will be the final year of his current deal, and he'll need to convince a team he can produce, in order to have a job next season in the league.</div>

Hey I get it from that point of view. It's mainly the money. I just like Hedo as a 6th man for us. I think that's a better suited role for him. He is out of LA which might help him psychologically and he's a decent complement to Dwight with his man2man defense. Overall, I don't want him in Orlando.

 

<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't blame you for not wanting him. Kwame is a frustrating person to watch attempt to play the game. He's been physically blessed with his size, speed, and strength. Mentally he's just never been able to put it together. The poor guy had a depressing upbringing and it's actually a credit to him he made it this far. I just wish he embraced his unbelievable opportunity more and dedicated himself to the game instead of the lifestyle.</div>

It's so bad because since he came into the NBA he was cracked on. I mean MJ just tore him up and now in LA with the media and stuff. He needs to go to like the Sonics to feel appreciated. I don't mind him on the Magic because maybe we can finally come out of his shell and have more confidence to avg. a solid 12/8 or something around there.

 

I'm probably in the minority from Magic fans on that deal. I would definitely do that trade. We desperately need a PF and Kwame is still gifted with very nice tools. I think another change of scenery where he wouldn't be in the national spotlight(with MJ then LA) and playing alongside someone like a Dwight Howard would do wonders for him. Kwame has always been pretty much the best big on the team and teams have to focus on him more than other bigs. With Dwight and Shard playing in the frontcourt with him, he wouldn't really have any pressure what so ever on him and it's a contract season so I think he would be a good addition to the Magic's thin frontcourt.

Hedo is very very similar to what Shard brings to the table and it's not really that smart to have them both on the court at the same time, since they basically do similar things on the court. Not to mention if we don't have him in the mix that would give more time especially to JJ and Ariza and Dooling/Bogans as well.

Basically I feel we need an athletic PF that should start more than we need a 6th man wing. I would hope that we could get a 1st rounder or 2nd rounder at worst out of this deal too, since we are getting less value then the Lakers and Kings are in return. I feel it's like the trade for Darko situation, it's really a no loss situation for us. If he produces we get a gem of a player. If he sucks we let him walk and get enough cap space to resign Ariza/Jameer.

 

<div class="quote_poster">GatorsowntheNCAA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm probably in the minority from Magic fans on that deal. I would definitely do that trade. We desperately need a PF and Kwame is still gifted with very nice tools. I think another change of scenery where he wouldn't be in the national spotlight(with MJ then LA) and playing alongside someone like a Dwight Howard would do wonders for him. Kwame has always been pretty much the best big on the team and teams have to focus on him more than other bigs. With Dwight and Shard playing in the frontcourt with him, he wouldn't really have any pressure what so ever on him and it's a contract season so I think he would be a good addition to the Magic's thin frontcourt.

Hedo is very very similar to what Shard brings to the table and it's not really that smart to have them both on the court at the same time, since they basically do similar things on the court. Not to mention if we don't have him in the mix that would give more time especially to JJ and Ariza and Dooling/Bogans as well.

Basically I feel we need an athletic PF that should start more than we need a 6th man wing. I would hope that we could get a 1st rounder or 2nd rounder at worst out of this deal too, since we are getting less value then the Lakers and Kings are in return. I feel it's like the trade for Darko situation, it's really a no loss situation for us. If he produces we get a gem of a player. If he sucks we let him walk and get enough cap space to resign Ariza/Jameer.</div>

Is there any word on the Fran Vasquez situation?? Like I said, I mean Kwame does get a chance somewhere else where he won't get messed with by the media or his coach. He's a solid player and a good rebounder. I think he would be like Darko for us actually. A guy we don't use offensively, does good with rebounding, and gets block shots.

 

<div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Is there any word on the Fran Vasquez situation?? Like I said, I mean Kwame does get a chance somewhere else where he won't get messed with by the media or his coach. He's a solid player and a good rebounder. I think he would be like Darko for us actually. A guy we don't use offensively, does good with rebounding, and gets block shots.</div>

I'm not banking on Fran coming over this year or even being part of our future. Best case scenario is that he pays the buyout next summer and can come over then. Most likely scenario is that he just comes over in 2 years when his contract is up or doesn't come at all.

That's why we need someone like a Kwame.

 

<div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Is there any word on the Fran Vasquez situation?? Like I said, I mean Kwame does get a chance somewhere else where he won't get messed with by the media or his coach. He's a solid player and a good rebounder. I think he would be like Darko for us actually. A guy we don't use offensively, does good with rebounding, and gets block shots.</div>

Well, Kwame Brown isn't exactly a great rebounder or shot blocker, especially for his size and stature. He's a little sissy. But the one thing you can't take away from Kwame Brown is his post defense. He can hold his own against guys like Tim Duncan and Amare Stoudimire. Kevin Garnett even praised Kwame for his defense a couple of seasons ago. A Dwight Howard and Kwame Brown duo in the paint should be pretty deadly, especially in the East. That is assuming if Kwame Brown can stay healthy

 

The trade isn't that bad. I don't want to do it though because we could still be possibly trying to pursue PJ Brown or even C-Webb depending what's going on right now.