What are our needs now?

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  1. Sabretooth

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    I'm thinking a legitimate point to distribute.

    Brevin Knight, anyone? (Does anyone know if he's still available)

    What about Mateen, who was on our summer league?
     
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    Both are still available, however Brevin Knight wants to play for a contender and is considering either the Clippers or Celtics. The Clippers have already submitted an offer to him.

    What's needed now is unloading some of the dead weight contracts on the roster.

    The Juwan Howard trade makes no sense with KG gone, they should shop him around for more cap space and/or cheap young talent.

    Ricky Davis & Theo Ratliff have expiring contracts, which will be valuable come February, if not sooner

    Trenton Hassell is still a servicable defender.

    The TWolves might as well throw their young players on the floor and let them log as many minutes as possible this season.

    Telfair should be able to fill the distributor role, but adding a 3rd PG would be beneficial to the Wolves.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Telfair should be able to fill the distributor role, but adding a 3rd PG would be beneficial to the Wolves.</div>

    Given their youth, they should probably go after Dee Brown to fill that role. I was shocked when I read that the Jazz are just going to let him walk. He'd be able to crack the rotation on the T'Wolves for sure.

    All in all, I'd say shape is right when he says that they should just throw the young guys out there and let them get experience. I'm not one for advocating tanking, but maybe it's not such a bad idea to just stay pat with this roster, give the young guys experience, and then get a top draft pick next summer. With all those young players with a year of experience under their belt, a top pick, and enough cap room to sign one of the big name free agents, the T'Wolves could turn things around fairly quickly. Their young guys just need a year or two to adjust to the NBA level. This was a trade that requires a lot of patience on the part of T'Wolves fans.
     
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    I thought Dee Brown was going over to play in Europe?
     
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    ^^I'm sure he'd rather be a second string pg where he would get tons of minutes most likely

    We need to start shaving down this roster. We have way too many players. I think that that is our main issue within the next few years. We need to figure out which of these kids can play, and which ones can't. We also need to get rid of juwan and rd like shape said. They aren't really gonna add too many wins and we might as well develop our young guys and get a top draft pick.
     
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    First thing you need to do is get rid of Ricky Davis. I have a feeling he's going to demand the ball at all times with such a young nucleus. Boston and Cleveland also had concerns with him being a chemistry destroyer when surrounded with younger players.
     
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    ^^ I totally agree. I was thinking that maybe Phoenix or SA would want his expiring contract and his scoring ability to help them for this year only. Maybe we can take some of their crap and some draft picks.
     
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    Ricky Davis is going to demand the ball tons yes, but he can help the T'Wolves still, becuase he is a vet among young men. If you where to look at this starting line-up

    PG - Foye
    SG - Davis
    SF - Brewer
    PF - Howard
    C- Jefferson

    Then have guys off the bench, which you can call "The bench formerly known as the Boston Celtics" your not bad.
     
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    I would definitely star Hassell for at least a few months over brewer. Davis is more of a three as well. I would also start Smith or Blount over Howard. I really don't think he is going to play very much now. Also, if we do trade Davis then Mccants should start at the two. I think our lineup is goin to be like this:

    PG- Foye, Telfair
    SG- Hassell, Mccants, Green
    SF- Davis, Brewer, Green, Jaric, Gomes
    PF- Jefferson, Smith, Howard, Gomes
    C- Blount, Jefferson, Theo, Howard

    I think that is everyone on our roster. Anyways, we have too many wings right now and also too many power forwards. Maybe if we move Jefferson to full time center we should be good there. I think that we should also keep Hassell and Howard now that I think about it because they could really help out our young guys. Jaric NEEDS to go as well. We REALLY need a point guard now that I look at it too.

    Edit: I just realized we also have mad dog and Richards who we havent signed yet so that's too more 4/5's
     
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    Look at these comparison's in the "Close" and "Inside" scoring:

    http://www.82games.com/0607/06MIN11A.HTM

    http://www.82games.com/0607/06BOS13A.HTM

    This is what I meant when I say we haven't had a dominant inside presence. Everything was from the "J". We have shooters, we have inside, now we need a distributor. Looking at our salary situation, we have Ricky and Ratliff coming off the books next season (and maybe Howard also) so we have some cap space. We can use an expiring contract to bundle with Jaric because he seems like the only piece that really NEEDS to be moved. It reminds me of the old child song "One of these things does not belong here" from Sesame Street. Anyway, what do you guys think of bringing Bobby Jackson back? Marbury is telling Telfair to watch McHale....I don't mind just sending Telfair to NYC. They can send us Fred Jones. Are you telling me MN wouldn't accept Nate Robinson? We like underdogs. Does anyone know if Dan Dickau is any good?
     
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    ^^With all that money coming off the books why not sign a free agent point guard? What point guards are free agents next year?

    Also, what about Foye? In summer league this year his passing looked TONS better. I think he may be able to turn into a really good combo guard and a distributer too. Brewer's passing skills are pretty dang good too.
     
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    Its kind of rough for the wolves right now. Because of the simply fact that last years celtics were just dropped into the western conference. seeing that they could'nt get a winning record in the worst division in the league last year this wont be a fun season for any wolves fan. Meaning that they will probably be an 18 win team this season.

    You ask me whay this team needs? it basically needs 4 more starters. the only true starter is at PF. after that we are looking at players just above d league quality and some below.

    IMO the wolves will keep their current coach and tank the next 2 seasons. This team will make a killing during the draft because IMO this team is arguably the worst team in the NBA. GL to the wolves fans and Management.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Its kind of rough for the wolves right now. Because of the simply fact that last years celtics were just dropped into the western conference. seeing that they could'nt get a winning record in the worst division in the league last year this wont be a fun season for any wolves fan. Meaning that they will probably be an 18 win team this season.

    You ask me whay this team needs? it basically needs 4 more starters. the only true starter is at PF. after that we are looking at players just above d league quality and some below.

    IMO the wolves will keep their current coach and tank the next 2 seasons. This team will make a killing during the draft because IMO this team is arguably the worst team in the NBA. GL to the wolves fans and Management.</div>

    So you think Foye and Brewer are crap? Everyone keeps talking about how we have last years celtics, but we are likely starting and likely going to play more of our players from last year than celtics.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">TheFreshPrince Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So you think Foye and Brewer are crap? Everyone keeps talking about how we have last years celtics, but we are likely starting and likely going to play more of our players from last year than celtics.</div>

    No but they are certainly not NBA starters. And I didnt say the wolves were crap. they just have a packed roster and only have 1 starter. thats my point.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No but they are certainly not NBA starters. And I didnt say the wolves were crap. they just have a packed roster and only have 1 starter. thats my point.</div>

    How is Foye not a starter? He contributed big time when he was on the floor, and based on efficiency on his minute-production ratio, he was close to Roy. And Brewer hasn't even started one NBA game. The rest of the Wolves roster is packed with young talent who hardly/never started anyway.

    I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.
     
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    ^^Foye was easily the second best rookie and arguably the best statistically. He has improved on his point guard skills a ton based on what he did in summer league and now should have the green light all year. There aren't very many quality starters at point in the league and i think that Foye would start for at least 1/3 of the league right now and could be a premier player before too long.

    How many second year players are that good anyway? I'm not trying to sound all defensive but you really must not know how good Foye is and how much potential he has. I also don't get what you qualify as a "starter" in this league?
     
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    I would also like to add that Blount is a very good offensive center. He had a large stretch there last year where he was just killing it. I think he will help out a lot this year.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Its kind of rough for the wolves right now. Because of the simply fact that last years celtics were just dropped into the western conference. seeing that they could'nt get a winning record in the worst division in the league last year this wont be a fun season for any wolves fan. Meaning that they will probably be an 18 win team this season.

    You ask me whay this team needs? it basically needs 4 more starters. the only true starter is at PF. after that we are looking at players just above d league quality and some below.

    IMO the wolves will keep their current coach and tank the next 2 seasons. This team will make a killing during the draft because IMO this team is arguably the worst team in the NBA. GL to the wolves fans and Management.</div>

    Last years Boston Celtics tanked to get a higher draft pick. Their record last year wasn't based on their talent level, IMO. You can't really say it's the Celtics for last year because you don't have their best player in Paul Pierce and you have guys like Mark Blount, Ricky Davis, Randy Foye, Corey Brewer, Mccants, Juwan Howard, and Trenton Hassell.

    I do agree that this years Twolves team will be one of the worst in the NBA, just because they don't have much experience. The talent is there and in 2-3 years once the develop their talent, get a high lottery pick they will be a good team.

    Young talent wise the Twolves have....

    PG-Randy Foye, Sebastian Telfair
    Wing-Gerald Green, Corey Brewer, Rashad McCants
    Big-Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Craig Smith, Chris Richard

    Really out of that group only Richard likely couldn't be a starter. They just need to trade away some of their experienced players at the deadline so that they can give all the young guys playing time.
     

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