"Worst collection of proven talent in the NBA" <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And? That's it? Someone actually thinks this Celtics team will win the East and contend for the championship? Really? I am reminded of the classic line given by Ronald Reagan in "Kings Row." He awakens in a hospital bed and becomes aware he has no legs. "Where's the rest of me?" he wails. Tell me something. Did I miss the memo in which David Stern proclaimed that in the 2007-08 season the NBA will be a three-on-three competition? And did I also miss the other memo, the one in which Stern revoked the charters of some NBA Eastern Conference teams, most notably Detroit, Miami, Chicago, Washington, and defending conference champion Cleveland?</div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Unless it really is going to be a three-on-three NBA, the Celtics will be forced to place two additional players on the floor, and not just occasionally, but for every one of the 48 minutes. That concerns me. That concerns me because what I am about to say is nonnegotiable: What's left on the Celtics' roster is by far the worst collection of proven talent in the NBA. Not one of the remaining 29 teams in Stern's world would even consider trading its fourth through 12th players for Boston's. There is no way Danny, Doc, Wyc, Steve, or Red's Ghost could look anyone in the eye and say otherwise.</div> Read More Nice read.
Can't say I disagree. The more I look at it, the more this trade made no sense. Boston gains one of the top 5 players in the league, but loses all of its depth, forcing to rely on unproven 'scrubs' and Rookies to help carry them through the season, and forget about a future, the Celtics now have none, not to mention the rebuilding process has only been delayed a couple of years, but now they're back at square 1 again. This team will not win the ECF, let alone the NBA championship.
Danny Ainge said it himself that he wasn't done with the off-season yet. We'll just have to let it play out and see if they intend to rely on Rondo and Perkins to start. The Celtics will have depth going into the season, but the question is whether they can prove to be productive off the bench.
<div class="quote_poster">Asian Zero Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Danny Ainge said it himself that he wasn't done with the off-season yet. We'll just have to let it play out and see if they intend to rely on Rondo and Perkins to start. The Celtics will have depth going into the season, but the question is whether they can prove to be productive off the bench.</div> Depth? What depth? The Raptors have depth, the Spurs have depth, Detriot has depth. The Celtics have guys who are just a little better then D league on the bench and some rookies. They are not going to be that great if they don't get depth.
Hopefully for the Celtics, having three stars like that might attract some other veteran players who want to have a ring before they call it quits. Not sure who those guys would be though...
<div class="quote_poster">Master Shake Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Depth? What depth? The Raptors have depth, the Spurs have depth, Detriot has depth. The Celtics have guys who are just a little better then D league on the bench and some rookies. They are not going to be that great if they don't get depth.</div> ...You misunderstood me. After the off-season is done, you can expect that they'll have depth with the free agents interested with the Celtics. Danny said it himself that he's not done yet, so we'll just have to let it play out.
^ I understood perfectly. With what money do they have this. What free agents are they going to get for the amount of money they have?
<div class="quote_poster">Master Shake Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^ I understood perfectly. With what money do they have this. What free agents are they going to get for the amount of money they have?</div> They still have the MLE or the LLE don't they? They just signed Eddie House and Jackie Manuel. They could add Dikembe Mutombo who's interested in them as well as having interests in PJ Brown, Michael Ruffin, Calvin Booth, and Scot Pollard.
<div class="quote_poster">Asian Zero Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">They still have the MLE or the LLE don't they? They just signed Eddie House and Jackie Manuel. They could add Dikembe Mutombo who's interested in them as well as having interests in PJ Brown, Michael Ruffin, Calvin Booth, and Scot Pollard.</div> These guys are gunna do what? They are going to have a line-up of old forwards. Maybe it could work, but I doubt it. The only one I like is Brown, he can score when called upon, and could be a nice complement with Garnett. Booth, Pollard? Come on, Booth is extremely unreliable and Pollard, don't get me started. Mutombo is way past his prime, hell, he's past mine too. Ruffin is also streaky and wouldn't be a guy I would want playing big minutes off the bench.
People are acting like the Celtics, by mortgaging their future, have to win this season to make the trade worthwhile. This team still has a 3-4 year window, though. They can spend their MLE this year to get some fillers in and some veterans for cheap. Obviously, they'll be one of the least deep teams in the league, but they have a couple years after that to make trades and find the proper supporting cast for their Big 3.
Celtics are the next Nets, but instead of the 3rd being the best pg they have the best big man. They will make the playoffs but wont have enough depth to carry them through.
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">People are acting like the Celtics, by mortgaging their future, have to win this season to make the trade worthwhile. This team still has a 3-4 year window, though. They can spend their MLE this year to get some fillers in and some veterans for cheap. Obviously, they'll be one of the least deep teams in the league, but they have a couple years after that to make trades and find the proper supporting cast for their Big 3.</div> Their problem is cap space though, and no one will likely be willing to trade for any of their other players, well they wont be able to make any significant trades with the other guys they have now.
Depth is overrated, to be honest. All the best teams, besides a couple, only use 7-8 man rotations. And teams with great players don't need above average role players, just guys that can play minutes without screwing up bad enough to make a difference in the game. It's amazing how quickly people forget how horrible the supporting casts of other teams. People are just looking for a reason to be skeptical about the Celtics since it's still hard to believe what they've done. Either that, or they're rooting for somebody else and their allegiance is getting in the way. Just take a look at the Spurs for example. You have Oberto and Elson as key contributors and they're still winning championshipd. If either one was on a bad or mediocre team, they'd be lucky to even play. Or even take a look at the teams Jordan played with 4-12. Or even LeBron's Cavs this year. I also believe people are severly underrating Rondo, Tony Allen, and Perkins. I've seen these guys play probably more than anybody else that will read this, and I'm perfectly confident with them being in the rotation of my team as it tries to contend for a title.
Just like Chutney said, they don't HAVE to win it all this year. Miami took two years to win a title with shaq. They have the mle this year, a draft pick ,which can be traded, and who wouldn't want to join this team? honestly, I don't think they are going to have any trouble adding talent to this team. I agree with 44 too. Rondo isn't a bad pg. I was hoping the wolves would somehow get him because he has all the tools to be a true pg. He is long and athletic to be a great defender and penetrator. I don't know anything about Perkins and Allen, but the fact is they don't need incredible depth. Who is the last team to win a title with a 10-12 man rotation? All it takes is these 3 guys and some smart players that won't hurt the team while playing. Just thinking out loud here but J kidd's contract is up in two years... He has always wanted to play with KG.
<div class="quote_poster">TheFreshPrince Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Just thinking out loud here but J kidd's contract is up in two years... He has always wanted to play with KG.</div> If that ever happend, I would tattoo a Boston Celtic Jeresy on my back and post pictures.
<div class="quote_poster">Master Shake Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If that ever happend, I would tattoo a Boston Celtic Jeresy on my back and post pictures.</div> I'll hold you to that Lol
<div class="quote_poster">Asian Zero Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Invalid Video Link</div> Those are his prime years, he is old now. Trade him to the wets
<div class="quote_poster">TheFreshPrince Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'll hold you to that Lol</div> Lol, It will hurt so much
