I was actually thinking that maybe Scola would be a decent Sixth Man instead of a starter. Scola hasn't developed yet and hasn't played an NBA game. I'd prefer Chuck Hayes starting, because he has shown that he is capable of starting and he also hustles and gets the O Rebs.
I also prefer chuck starting because Scola's passing ability can really help when our bench needs some offensive boost. I think our main core should still have Chuck.
As a trial, Scola should come off the bench first and prove himself. Ginobili wasn't an instant starter for the Spurs. Though I believe over time Scola can develop into our starter.
Hayes would fit better as a starter in the beginning but I doubt he'd thrive in Adelman's system like he did Van Gundy's. Scola coming off the bench might be a good move but given the lack of depth at the Rockets' four spot, I'd like him to play as many minutes as possible.
We need hieght in there. I actually see Scola playing a little C and Hayes coming in at PF for the running game Run Team C: Scola PF: Hayes SF: Tracy Mcgrady SG: Luther or Bonzi PG: Steve Francis
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tmacyaokobe01)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I'd prefer Chuck Hayes starting, because he has shown that he is capable of starting and he also hustles and gets the O Rebs.</div></p> Scola does the same thing, except he's even more talented and possesses a soft touch around the rim to go with it.</p> </p>
Well as you see from last year......Chuck Hayes starting will not win us a championship. I'd much have Scola starting, being that he has a wider variety of skills. Unless Chuck develops anything that resembles a jumpshot, he should never be a starter in the NBA (accept on a JVG coached team). Our bench is overrstacked with firepower so we won't really need offensive energy. I'm also hoping Jackie Butleris able to get some minutes at PF</p>
I expect and hope that Scola will be good enough to start for us. I think he's a great match for Adelman's offense. Defense may be a concern. He plays hard, but he doesn't have the quickness that Chuck has. You'd like to have a quick front court player along side Yao. </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (durvasa)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I expect and hope that Scola will be good enough to start for us. I think he's a great match for Adelman's offense. Defense may be a concern. He plays hard, but he doesn't have the quickness that Chuck has. You'd like to have a quick front court player along side Yao.</p> </div></p> For the most part, I think some of you are disgustingly overrating Chuck Hayes on this team. Scola should start, he's the more polished of the two. Do I think we still need a legitmate threat at PF, obcourse. But to say "Chuck Hayes should start for us" is something I can't see happening. Especially on a Rick Adelman coached team. I don't see Chuck playing a big part this year at all. Like I've said, Jackie Butler should be a bigger factor coming off the bench.........</p> </p>
Well many of us would say you are UNDERrating Hayes.</p> He sure isn't an offensive powerhouse, but he's a great hustler and defender. What many people are thinking is that Hayes would be less useful on the bench while Scola could do a great job in that position because having Mutombo and Hayes play along side each other is an offensive liablity. Having Mutombo and Scola, on the other hand provides a good mix off Off and Def up front.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dakeem1)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Well many of us would say you are UNDERrating Hayes.</p> He sure isn't an offensive powerhouse, but he's a great hustler and defender. What many people are thinking is that Hayes would be less useful on the bench while Scola could do a great job in that position because having Mutombo and Hayes play along side each other is an offensive liablity. Having Mutombo and Scola, on the other hand provides a good mix off Off and Def up front.</p> </div></p> We've went through this with him before using Juwan...Problem is somehow he understimates what a good balanced bench provides. In his mind he equates best players = starters. Although this is true in many cases, often times you want people who compliment your superstars well. A good tactic would be to put a very good scorer on the bench so that when your starters are resting, you still get a good offense going. Internationally, Scola plays off the bench as well, despite being one of their best players.</p> </p>
If fans can put aside they're emotional attachment to certain players and look at overrall talent, Scola is the obvious starter.</p>
Or if you understood anything about balance. Are you saying you want Deke and Hayes on the court at the same time?.Wasn't it you that thought Scola was no good? I remember you saying he was not the answer at pf.</p>
Apparently Hayes is a very good passer.</p> Someone from another message board translated this.</p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'></p> <font size="2">Reporter Wang Meng reports from Austin In the power forward position, Luis Scola has only one competitor, (and that is) Chuck Hayes. Chuck Hayes has his own superiority; he understands Yao Ming; he understands NBA; he does not need such adaptation time required by Luis Scola; he could just when necessary be dispatched to play on court, grab rebounds for the Houston Rockets, blocks the opponents for Yao Ming. All Rockets fans know about his talents and ability in rebounding; in case Luis Scola do hit problems in his NBA adaptation, Chuck Hayes is a safe substitute for him. On the season opening Media Day, Chuck Hayes told the reporters: “I am 100% certain that I will not be starting in the new season.” But 5 days into the preseason training camp, Chuck Hayes changed his stance; he seemed to have seen his own opportunity. He said: “I don’t know; maybe I will also have my opportunity. The Head Coach will make the final decision. I just have to continue to work diligently on my own game. I don’t care if I can start or not. I never have to worry about this.” There was a sudden sunbeam in the originally dark sky, and when Rick Adelman watched and nodded with approval at each of Chuck Hayes' passing, this wisp sunbeam became brighter. Throughout the 5-day training camp, Chuck Hayes received heaps of accolades; whenever he dished out those exquisite assists of his, his team mates on the court side would exclaim: “Oh, Chuck is playing very much like Vlade Divac !!” Once deployed in the new systems of Rick Adelman, Chuck Hayes seemed to have transformed into another player beyond recognition. (No one seemed to realize) this short and sturdy power forward, labeled as just a blue collar player, has such exquisite passing skill. In the team scrimmage, Luther Head dribbled all the way up to the 3-pointer arc; Chuck Hayes came up to the free throw line vertex with his back to the basket; he received the ball from Luther Head, and in a continuous movement, Luther Head glided into the low post area; without even taking a look at Luther Head, Chuck Hayes slightly kept off a defending John Lucas III with his shoulder, and then with his back to the basket, dished out a no-look pass just between the slit of John Lucas III and Luther Head; and the ball ran obediently into the hand of the unguarded Luther Head for an easy lay-up. Upon seeing this, Divac-related praises were resonated at the court side once more. Regarding the praises from his team mates, Chuck Hayes just smiled. “Well, originally I can pass a ball, but I just did not have the opportunity to demonstrate my ability before, and now in this present systems (of Rick Adelman), I am required to pass more. I am this kind of player; I will do anything the systems request me to do. If I need to pass, I will pass; if I need to do all those tiring and dirty work, I will do.” Even though Chuck Hayes said he did not care whether he will start or not, he is focusing all his attention in working diligently to enhance his game; every day after the training camp ended, people could still see him continue practicing his shooting: his free throws and mid-range jumpers from the free throw line; it is solely because in Rick Adelman’s systems, he not only requires his interior players can pass the ball, they must also be able to hit those mid-range jumpers. “Well, you all see now that I have been practicing a lot of my mid range jumpers, and I need to persist on such practice.” On Day 3 of the training camp, Chuck Hayes was stepped on his left instep; blue stasis was formed on his instep and it was also swollen. He did not make a sound, and just hid himself quietly at a corner. Rafer Alston walked by and started to play a joke with him: “Hey, young man, you have to hang in there; this is no big deal. We all used to play on cement courts in New York; we might turn our ankles, just yell out painfully, but then we just continue with our play. You need to learn it from me.” Chuck Hayes just smiled back shyly and watched as Rafer Alston was gesticulating with his hands and feet in front of him. I asked after his injury, and he said in a soft voice: “It is all right. I will be able to come back to play tomorrow.” And then on the second day, this solid, honest and good-natured lad did come back, continue running full of energy, and stay to practice his mid-range jumper after the end of team practice/scrimmage.</font></p> </div></p>
LOL I was just reading that.</p> Hayes showed some good passing last year but this year it seems RA will utilize that strength of his. Regardless of who starts at the four, count on him to bring energy and rebounding, and good passing too as Scola apparently has been good at hitting the open man as well.</p> </p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rock4life)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> If fans can put aside they're emotional attachment to certain players and look at overrall talent, Scola is the obvious starter.</p> </div></p> </p> No one has actually said that Scola is less talented than Hayes. Everyone who wouldn't mind Scola off the bench is just saying that it is better FOR THE TEAM!!!</p> IMO, Hayes and Scola would probably split their minutes evenly anyway. So it doesn't matter who starts as far as talent is concenred. What matter is that We aren't stuck with Hayes on the court alongside mutombo.</p>
Mutombo doesn't really fit into the offense, and I'm guessing he's there to come off the bench against Shaq, Dwight Howard, etc.. and will likely get a lot of DNP-CD's. I think Hayes and Scola will see the bulk of the bench C minutes, and we'll be seeing a lot of Battier at the PF spot - just so Adelman can squeeze all the guards into the game.</p> I really like the look of a quick 2nd unit, something like :</p> Scola, Battier, TMac, Head, Alston</p> Regardless, it's going to be Yao and TMac playing about 35 mins/game and everyone else will be at around 20 mpg or less.</p>
