<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">PARIS (Ticker) - Joakim Noah will provide the energy that can catapult the Chicago Bulls to the next level, according to Luol Deng. Noah was taken over ninth overall in June's draft as the Bulls looked to bolster a roster that was outclassed by Detroit in the playoffs last season. Noah, the New York-born power forward, is tipped for great things after leading the University of Florida to successive NCAA titles, making them the first school in the past 15 years to claim back-to-back national championships. In his three seasons with the Gators, he started 78 of his 108 games and averaged 10.6 points, 6.3 rebounds and 1.7 assists. He also shot 61 percent from the field (the second best average in school history). Noah will join Deng with Bulls this season. "He's going to be a great fit-in," Deng told PA SportsTicker. "He will improve us in a lot of ways. He will give us a lot of energy and I'm sure he'll be a great addition for us. "The best thing about him is he's energetic - he's young and I think he'll lift us up in a lot of games. I hope he can be one of the stars of the future, and I wish him nothing but the best. We know he's a hard worker and if he continues to do that, he'll do great." </div> Source: Yahoo Sports
<div class="quote_poster">Ed! Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">*Waits for Voodoo Child to talk about how Noah sucks*</div> great avatar
<div class="quote_poster">Ed! Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">*Waits for Voodoo Child to talk about how Noah sucks*</div> I'm still waiting for GatorsownstheNCAA to come in here and overrate the hell out of Noah. The guy's an enigma. He never posts outside of the Magic forum, yet you mention the name Joakim Noah somewhere in an obscure part of the board, and he's in the thread just moments later. He's gotta have some sorta bat signal.
While alot of people hated this pick it made sence in the end. If we had picked spencer Hawes with the number 9 pick there is no way that we wouldve gotten a player similar to noah. and another thing noah is a proven winner. but in the end we basically ended up with noah and hawes when we signed grey. SUMMER LEAGUE STATS Hawes 16-5-1s in 33 mpg Grey 10-5-1 in 24 mpg the combined energy and tenacity of noah and Ty are gonna do big thing for our squad mark my words. So we really won in the draft. because honestly neither guy (hawes Grey) will end up better than brad miller when its all said and done. they are all basically the same player accept brad miller has a chip on his shoulder so I give him an edge over the other Two.
<div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">While alot of people hated this pick it made sence in the end. If we had picked spencer Hawes with the number 9 pick there is no way that we wouldve gotten a player similar to noah. and another thing noah is a proven winner. but in the end we basically ended up with noah and hawes when we signed grey. SUMMER LEAGUE STATS Hawes 16-5-1s in 33 mpg Grey 10-5-1 in 24 mpg the combined energy and tenacity of noah and Ty are gonna do big thing for our squad mark my words. So we really won in the draft. because honestly neither guy (hawes Grey) will end up better than brad miller when its all said and done. they are all basically the same player accept brad miller has a chip on his shoulder so I give him an edge over the other Two.</div> Wait... wait... wait... You're equating Spencer Hawes and Aaron Gray, and then comparing them both to a poor man's Brad Miller? Why, because they're all white seven footers? Have you seen either play? That's ridiculously off.
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Wait... wait... wait... You're equating Spencer Hawes and Aaron Gray, and then comparing them both to a poor man's Brad Miller? Why, because they're all white seven footers? Have you seen either play? That's ridiculously off.</div> number 1 stick to my point. my point is that the bulls ended up with a guy with limited post play and a decent midrange jumper. If you remember miller was drafted by the bulls. the same way gray was and Hawes couldve been. im a bulls fan and thats where I draw my comparisons. they all put up similar numbers and are over all the same type of player. as you can see in my stat comparison the bulls didnt lose anything by drafting Grey plus we got Noah ( who like ty is an origional player). I really dont care how you take my comments because they all make sence. Point being made here is that we are better because we didnt draft Hawes. the reason being is that we got noah and hawes when we drafted aaron grey.
<div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">number 1 stick to my point. my point is that the bulls ended up with a guy with limited post play and a decent midrange jumper. If you remember miller was drafted by the bulls. the same way gray was and Hawes couldve been. im a bulls fan and thats where I draw my comparisons. they all put up similar numbers and are over all the same type of player. as you can see in my stat comparison the bulls didnt lose anything by drafting Grey plus we got Noah ( who like ty is an origional player). I really dont care how you take my comments because they all make sence. Point being made here is that we are better because we didnt draft Hawes. the reason being is that we got noah and hawes when we drafted aaron grey.</div> Your statistical comparison is irrelevant. Summer league games mean next to nothing, especially for big men. You can use summer league stats to show that Lou Williams is superior to Kevin Durant if you wanted to. Aaron Gray is servicable, but he's no Spencer Hawes. While Gray was a good value pick in the second round, he's going to be nothing more than a space eater on the next level, ala Greg Ostertag, Jake Tsakalidis, etc.; whereas Spencer Hawes has the potential to be the most complete offensive big man out of the '07 class. Another area that you don't factor into your comparison is age. Hawes is just 19, whereas Gray is 22. That matters a lot not only in terms of the development of their games but also their physical development. If Hawes were 30 lbs. stronger, which he will be in the next coming years, he'd be a hell of a lot better in the low post than he is now. He's got the post footwork and the fundamentals of rebounding down, but he lacks the strength to be as dominant as he could be. When you give him a few years to put on the kind of weight Aaron Gray is carrying though, he's going to be twice the player he is now. In the meantime, Hawes will still be more effective as a high post scoring threat, almost exactly what the Bulls needed, for a second year in a row. That's where the Bulls went wrong. They drafted two role players who couldn't score ten points in an open gym over two of the best high post big men in recent memory.
no you couldnt say that williams is better because they play entirly different positions. im comparing bigman to big man. of course hawes is slightly better than Grey but my point is this; the production levels dont drop that much if you throw one in or the other. I mean look at darko hes been in the league tossed from team to team and probably wuoldve been a beast in college. but in th nba hes not so great. that brings me to my point that an nba player like hawes Or grey is questionasble. neither is a for sure allstar so we wont know how they will fair until they actually play nba games. So I can only base my point on the games that they have played in the summer league wich is certaiunly a step above college ball. and in this case thier number are very similar and thats why we didnt lose. And we have yet to see Noah so hes just an added plus. Personally I would take noah and Grey over just signing hawes. and thats my opninion. Because Just because people dont like Noah doesnt take away the fact that he got 2 titles.
