define running the offense

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  1. kobetmacyao01

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    i'd like to really know what running the offense really means.

    i'm starting to get lost with that definition, i think yao ran the offense earlier this season but i don't know anymore.
     
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    Not another one of these definition based threads.....AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">fatballer_10 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Not another one of these definition based threads.....AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!</div>

    i'd just like to know what this means because i'm not sure HOW YOU CAN RUN AN OFFENSE.
     
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    Running the offence is like being the "on floor coach". The point guard (or point-forward!!!) decides what plays to run, who should get touches, what is the best way to attack the other team. They call the right plays, make the right decisions (whether to pass, shoot, drive etc). That is running the offence. Understand?
     
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    i'd like it if more people defined it.
     
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    You mean playmaker right? Playmakers run the offense, which means setting up plays for your teammates. They make the players around them better, and help get their teammates open looks. The playmaker is someone who brings the squad on the floor together.
     
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    i just mean running the offense.
     
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    ^people who run the offense are called the playmaker.
     
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    IMO, the point guard is the one who runs the offense by getting his guys in the positions needed to take advantage of the defense in front of them in order to get a bucket. The person who runs the offense is the person who calls the plays on the court and gets things in motion.
     
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    No matter what anyone says, tmacyaokobe01 will not agree. He'll just keep asking questions. There is no need for me to say anything because Brian and so one just told you what it means.

    tmacyaokobe01 just seems to be defiant and incompetent when people tell him something. He always think the way he says something is the way it is. But whatever, he can just keep asking.
     
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    running the offense seems rediculously broad. Wouldn't that just mean that you have the ball in your possession and you are trying to score? Idk, seems like a weird term. And how could you think Yao ran the offense without knowing what that means? lol

    or is that the same as knowing tmac isn't a point forward without knowing what one is
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">tmacyaokobe01 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">i'd like to really know what running the offense really means.

    i'm starting to get lost with that definition, i think yao ran the offense earlier this season but i don't know anymore.</div>

    ..[​IMG] yao run the offense?
    whaaatttt?
     
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    <font color=""Red"">Keep the thread serious. If you have nothing worthwhile to say, don't say anything. And respect other people's opinions, even if you don't agree with them.</font>

    On topic though: I would define running the offense as someone who is the leader on the court, in terms of getting teammates involved, getting people into the correct positions, and setting up plays for people. In most cases, the point guard does this. Nash, Kidd and Deron Williams would be good examples (correct me if I'm wrong about Williams). Someone like Kobe would not be an ideal example, because he has other people running plays for him, or he runs plays for himself. As for the Rockets, I'm not sure. I haven't seen them play a lot, but from what I can gather Yao often works off the ball, often setting picks for others up high. I don't think that makes him a playmaker or an offense runner. McGrady isn't really running the offense either, but he is a vital part for scoring in it. For the Rockets last season, I would actually say that their coach ran their offense, because from what I saw he wanted them to run a lot of set plays.
     
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    I'd say its the player/players who create shots for others as well as themselves and lead the offense in general. Have you ever seen Steve Nash or Jason Kidd? They are the players who run the offense for their teams becuase they handle the ball most of the time, call plays, find the open man, tell other players where to be, facilitate the offense. Its usually the point guard who "runs the offense"; Kidd, Nash, Baron Davis, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Chauncy Billups, Raymond Felton, TJ Ford. All those guys handle the ball most of the time for their team, they call the plays and create shots for others and themselves.

    Many times the offense is run by committee. For example the Lakers, who run a triangle offense. Theres no one player who runs the offense most of the time but they have a specific system where Odom, Kobe, and their PG are the players who create and do the decision making on offense. The same can be said for your Rockets. Alston ran a chunk of the offense but McGrady and Yao often were given the ball and allowed to create offensive opportunities. Theres no clear cut player who will dominate the ball and do a majority of the creating/decision making for the team like Nash, Kidd, Baron, Paul, etc.

    The Rockets will probably be "running the offense" by committee again this year with Adelman as coach. When Adelman was in Sacramento Bibby was the PG but much of the time Webber was given control of the ball in the high post and "ran the offense" by looking to pass to other players cutting to the rim or coming off of screens for jumpshots or he could choose to try and score himself. McGrady and Yao will probably be given the ball most of the time this year while guys like Francis, Mike James, Battier, Wells, Hayes, etc. try to move without the ball and get open for a McGrady/Yao assist. Of course if McGrady or Yao see fit they can choose to take their man one on one. Thus since McGrady and Yao will be making most of the decisions and handling the ball most of the time, they will be the players "running the offense".
     
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    "Running the offense" means you're given primary responsibility to notify others on the court what the play is, to initiate said plays, and set up scoring opportunities for teammates within the context of said plays.

    In JVG's system, I would never say that Yao Ming was running the offense. The ball has to be in your hands near the beginning of a play, in my opinion -- Yao was basically a finisher.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (durvasa)</div><div class='quotemain'>"Running the offense" means you're given primary responsibility to notify others on the court what the play is, to initiate said plays, and set up scoring opportunities for teammates within the context of said plays. In JVG's system, I would never say that Yao Ming was running the offense. The ball has to be in your hands near the beginning of a play, in my opinion -- Yao was basically a finisher.</div>

    i did see rafer do a lot of that. i just saw mcgrady creating for others along the way like yao just that mcgrady was making more plays would you agree?</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tmacyaokobe01)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (durvasa)</div><div class='quotemain'>"Running the offense" means you're given primary responsibility to notify others on the court what the play is, to initiate said plays, and set up scoring opportunities for teammates within the context of said plays. In JVG's system, I would never say that Yao Ming was running the offense. The ball has to be in your hands near the beginning of a play, in my opinion -- Yao was basically a finisher.</div>

    i did see rafer do a lot of that. i just saw mcgrady creating for others along the way like yao just that mcgrady was making more plays would you agree?</p>

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    *shrug*</p>

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (durvasa)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tmacyaokobe01)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (durvasa)</div><div class='quotemain'>"Running the offense" means you're given primary responsibility to notify others on the court what the play is, to initiate said plays, and set up scoring opportunities for teammates within the context of said plays. In JVG's system, I would never say that Yao Ming was running the offense. The ball has to be in your hands near the beginning of a play, in my opinion -- Yao was basically a finisher.</div>

    i did see rafer do a lot of that. i just saw mcgrady creating for others along the way like yao just that mcgrady was making more plays would you agree?</p>

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    *shrug*</p>

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    you know the answers to everything </p>

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