<div class="quote_poster">Blurr#7 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> Ultimately what is YOUR definition of a playmaker?</div> Answer the question..........From what you're typing all that's required is to be a pass firt PG to be a playmaker.
<div class="quote_poster">Blurr#7 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Answer the question..........From what you're typing all that's required is to be a pass firt PG to be a playmaker.</div> a man who calls out the plays and creates for others. simply a playmaker.
<div class="quote_poster">tmacyaokobe01 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">a man who calls out the plays and creates for others.</div> LOL!! You mean Tracy!!! I'm done wasting my time with you!!
<div class="quote_poster">Blurr#7 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">LOL!! You mean Tracy!!! I'm done wasting my time with you!!</div> and rafer does that too. so does yao. rafer does run the offense he just isn't the PRIMARY playmaker.
<div class="quote_poster">tmacyaokobe01 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">again Rafer is not even a shoot-first PG. the same people who call him selfish should be calling McGrady and LeBron selfish too. Rafer is a pass-first PG and a playmaker. He just wasn't used well as one with JVG.</div> What the hell? Why was I quoted? I never said that Rafer was a shoot-first PG. I just said he is not that good of a passer. He is an exceptional ballhandler, i must say, and yes he DOES look to pass. But just because he looks to pass, doesn't mean that he chooses the right decisions when he does so. Read the posts properly and don't make assumptions of what people say.
Damn, seriously. Stop with the whole playmaker this and that. Its true taht you care too much for traditional roles and labels. It's like you've never played a basketball gae in your life and do nothing but play NBA Live and 2K to understand how basketball works. It's nota video game man. In REAL basketball, roles switch all the time. You can have traditional coaches like JVG that cares about the fundamentals. And then you can have Adelman and Nelson who switch it up. There's nothing wrong with switching it up. It's worked for teams in the past, why won't it work for us? Especially with great big man passers like Yao and Scola, giving 100% of the playmaking control to Alston would only limit the two aforementioned players' abilities. To be successful, we have to maximise the abilities of all our players (that get enough playing time). Now, none of us are even certain if Alston will get PT. IF he does, he has to prove his value to the team. Now, tmacyaokobe, I wil agree with u that Alston is our best playmaking PG out of the big 2 pg's that we have. But we have other players who can function the same role without playing PG. As we know, TMac is injury prone these days... he can't be the slasher he used to be.... That's why we have James and Francis. Having alston as our Primary playmaker will hinder TMac's performance. And tmacyaokobe, you have a tendancy to overlook a lot of points directed at you (very similar to another rocket's poster who has been banned for a few months.. most of us know who that is). So don't overlook this one: Would you still stand by your Alston comments knowing very well that it will limit T-Mac's performance, and more importantly, his future and longterm career? T-Mac is important to us, and I'd still consider him our best player (though that's arguable).
<div class="quote_poster">tmacyaokobe01 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">and rafer does that too. so does yao. rafer does run the offense he just isn't the PRIMARY playmaker.</div> Answer me this, if Rafer is such a great playmaker why did the Rockets offense look pathetic when Tracy was on the bench? Theres a big difference between a "Playmaker" and a good passer.
<div class="quote_poster">Blurr#7 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Answer me this, if Rafer is such a great playmaker why did the Rockets offense look pathetic when Tracy was on the bench? Theres a big difference between a "Playmaker" and a good passer.</div> they looked more pathetic when Rafer was on the bench if you watched the rockets played.
<div class="quote_poster">tmacyaokobe01 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">ok your the same guy who got mad because mcgrady isn't a point forward and he isn't ok? deal with it. I don't care if adelman flips things around McGrady will never ever play point forward or point guard</div> We're not even talking about Tracy McGrady or point forwards. Which, for the record, was frustrating to me only because my points were dismissed without being addressed. I in no way have any inherent problem with somebody arguing that Tracy McGrady isn't a point forward. We're talking about Rafer Alston. I'm curious to hear your defenses of him, but there's no possiblity of debate if this devloves into aimless contradiction.
<div class="quote_poster">Montaman Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">We're not even talking about Tracy McGrady or point forwards. Which, for the record, was frustrating to me only because my points were dismissed without being addressed. I in no way have any inherent problem with somebody arguing that Tracy McGrady isn't a point forward. We're talking about Rafer Alston. I'm curious to hear your defenses of him, but there's no possiblity of debate if this devloves into aimless contradiction.</div> He does this in every thread, we supply countless counterpoints to his "opinions" but he resorts to repeating the same thing over and over without making any sort of sense! He simplifies the "Labels" he comes up with. There is no simple explanation or set position for a "Playmaker" He's the guy who you want the ball to go to in crunch time because he will make a play(HELLO PLAYMAKER!?!? GET IT??)wether it's an assist, a bucket or drawing a foul, Rafer is NOT a good finisher, can't get to the rack, and sure as hell couldn't make a tear drop to save his life and you want him to be the "Main playmaker" next year?? Please THINK about what you're typing. Seriously get out and play a real game of hoops, you might learn something.
<div class="quote_poster">Blurr#7 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He does this in every thread, we supply countless counterpoints to his "opinions" but he resorts to repeating the same thing over and over without making any sort of sense! He simplifies the "Labels" he comes up with. There is no simple explanation or set position for a "Playmaker" He's the guy who you want the ball to go to in crunch time because he will make a play(HELLO PLAYMAKER!?!? GET IT??)wether it's an assist, a bucket or drawing a foul, Rafer is NOT a good finisher, can't get to the rack, and sure as hell couldn't make a tear drop to save his life and you want him to be the "Main playmaker" next year?? Please THINK about what you're typing. Seriously get out and play a real game of hoops, you might learn something.</div> It's about time someone said this. I've been reading this thread and all he keeps saying is the same thing. Point-Forward this, playmaker that. You keep making up your own stupid a$$ definitions and contradict yourself.
<div class="quote_poster">Blurr#7 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He does this in every thread, we supply countless counterpoints to his "opinions" but he resorts to repeating the same thing over and over without making any sort of sense! He simplifies the "Labels" he comes up with. There is no simple explanation or set position for a "Playmaker" He's the guy who you want the ball to go to in crunch time because he will make a play(HELLO PLAYMAKER!?!? GET IT??)wether it's an assist, a bucket or drawing a foul, Rafer is NOT a good finisher, can't get to the rack, and sure as hell couldn't make a tear drop to save his life and you want him to be the "Main playmaker" next year?? Please THINK about what you're typing. Seriously get out and play a real game of hoops, you might learn something.</div> ******************** ********************** Alston is a playmaker **************
<div class="quote_poster">hustler Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Internet is serious business.</div> He got all butt hurt!! Theres nothing wrong with not agreeing with someone, hell I debated more than a few times here. There's some real smart Basketball guys here and rarelly do they resort to childish name calling. (I kinda wish I would ahve seen the post!LOL) Oh well, I'll just have to wait for him to start another gem of a post.
