Ensuring the win - stealing signals with video cameras

HK; For someone who claims not to care about the Patsies, you sure are doing alot to defend them.</p>

Stop obfuscating or as ROTR said earlier throwing up smokescreens. The Supreme court of Public opinion has ruled unanimously that the Pats did something illegal. Further, Goddell said they did and they have been punished. Case closed.</p>

Though, I am sure you'll continue to spin on. I, for the most part, am done w/ this topic. I will leave my fellow jurists on the SCPO (ROTR & DD) to provide enough facts for you to continue to chase your tail.</p>

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>

HK; For someone who claims not to care about the Patsies, you sure are doing alot to defend them.</div></p>

Stop trying to label me as a Patriot lover, it's freaking juvenile. You don't know anything about me, but my fellow JBBers know how much I dislike the Patriots. I just dislike slander more than that.</p>

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Stop obfuscating or as ROTR said earlier throwing up smokescreens. The Supreme court of Public opinion has ruled unanimously that the Pats did something illegal. Further, Goddell said they did and they have been punished. Case closed.</p>

Though, I am sure you'll continue to spin on. I, for the most part, am done w/ this topic. I will leave my fellow jurists on the SCPO (ROTR & DD) to provide enough facts for you to continue to chase your tail.</p>

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Lol, do you even read my posts anymore? No duh the Pats were convicted of something illegal, but that isn't what most of this debate is about. </p>

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<font face="georgia,palatino"><font size="3">I did not label you as a Patsie lover just a Patsie defender. </font></font></p>

<font face="georgia,palatino"><font size="3">One thing I know for certain is you are not a legal scholar. My previous post stated was <u>not slander nor was it <span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'">libel</span></u></font></font></p>

<font><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/slander</span></font></font></p>

<font><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><font color="#800080"><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel" target="_blank">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel</font></a></span></span></font></font></p>

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>

<font face="georgia,palatino"><font size="3">I did not label you as a Patsie lover just a Patsie defender. </font></font></p>

<font face="georgia,palatino"><font size="3">One thing I know for certain is you are not a legal scholar. My previous post stated was <u>not slander nor was it <span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'">libel</span></u></font></font></p>

<font><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/slander</span></font></font></p>

<font><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><font color="#800080"><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel" target="_blank">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel</font></a></span></span></font></font></p></div>

Hmm I would dispute that (in general, not just your last post I mean), but it doesn't matter what you want to call it.</p>

 

BA, if a canoe lost its wheels going down the river, then Patriots would obviously not have any astericks next to their dynasty. Furthermore, if Jesus Christ had a railroad spike stuck through his head then, Rodney Harrison would not have taken HGH.Bill Belichik is not a cheater, and the Patriots as an organization and a dynasty should be given a break based on fact that there have only been 2 games in which they cheated. It's quite clear, and you should just stop trying to argue. You have not proven that the Patriots are cheaters, and you have slandered the *good* people of this website to the point where there is no turning back. Jesus hates name-calling.</p>

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So your strategy is to win people over with nonsensical rants? </p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

BA, if a canoe lost its wheels going down the river, then Patriots would obviously not have any astericks next to their dynasty. Furthermore, if Jesus Christ had a railroad spike stuck through his head then, Rodney Harrison would not have taken HGH. Bill Belichik is not a cheater, and the Patriots as an organization and a dynasty should be given a break based on fact that there have only been 2 games in which they cheated. It's quite clear, and you should just stop trying to argue. You have not proven that the Patriots are cheaters, and you have slandered the *good* people of this website to the point where there is no turning back. Jesus hates name-calling.</p>

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You've got the dorkiest hyperboles. </p>

Do you care to address my previous post at all? Yeah that's right you can't because all you can resort to now are clownish tactics. </p>

You're ruining the quality of this forum, we're supposed to have intelligent discussions. Why do you still have an account? </p>

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller)</div><div class='quotemain'>

So your strategy is to win people over with nonsensical rants? </p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

BA, if a canoe lost its wheels going down the river, then Patriots would obviously not have any astericks next to their dynasty. Furthermore, if Jesus Christ had a railroad spike stuck through his head then, Rodney Harrison would not have taken HGH. Bill Belichik is not a cheater, and the Patriots as an organization and a dynasty should be given a break based on fact that there have only been 2 games in which they cheated. It's quite clear, and you should just stop trying to argue. You have not proven that the Patriots are cheaters, and you have slandered the *good* people of this website to the point where there is no turning back. Jesus hates name-calling.</p>

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You've got the dorkiest hyperboles. </p>

Do you care to address my previous post at all? Yeah that's right you can't because all you can resort to now are clownish tactics. </p>

You're ruining the quality of this forum, we're supposed to have intelligent discussions. Why do you still have an account? </p>

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That was a demonstration, an analogy, if you will, of what the rest of this site has seen come from your keyboard with respectto the topics presented. It's really no worse than the red herrings that you resort to when confronted with fact. I had addressed your previous posts long ago, before you had moved the conversation well away from rational thinking into what we are left with now. I can only place your mal-adjusted comtempt for reason into the category of "lost child", with only a bulletin board to express one's deepest denials about truth, honor, and integrity. The only hope for you, and the people that you expose your bad-tasted, religiously insultingpictures and tangental banter is for someone to pull the plug on your computer. At that point, Sports Two would become the great place that we all know it can possibly be.</p>

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It's possible the Patriots cheated to the degree you believe, but this issue is quite complex and there isn't a superfluous amount of evidence the way you talk about it. Has anyone even accused the Pats of video taping in the playoffs? Again, if the Pats start losing early in the playoffs from now on, I might agree with you. Until then, act like a ****ing adult. </p>

[quote name='The Return of the Raider']</p>

That was a demonstration, an analogy, if you will, of what the rest of this site has seen come from your keyboard with respect to the topics presented. [/Quote]</p>

No it's not an analogy, you whine about things I never said.</p>

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</p>

What facts have I been confronted with that I've ignored? The "Facts" that I've ignored are not really facts at all. Do you know the meaning of that word? </p>

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Lol sure, whatever. When you started disrespecting me with that Cross comment, I lost all respect for you. Don't start asking me to be courteous to you after that. </p>

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Get a ****ing grip on your life, it's just the NFL.</p>

Anyone that doesn't blindly hate on the Patriots is some sad vagrant child now? </p>

So this isn't considered tangental banter? </p>

</p>

Basically, you need an excuse to ignore my posts and continue to make those nerdy analogies of yours. And a lot of people happen to like my sig and avy. </p>

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller)</div><div class='quotemain'>

It's possible the Patriots cheated to the degree you believe, but this issue is quite complex and there isn't a superfluous amount of evidence the way you talk about it. Has anyone even accused the Pats of video taping in the playoffs? Again, if the Pats start losing early in the playoffs from now on, I might agree with you. </p>

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And here is the apex of your misunderstanding, or rather, your denial. It doesn't matter *what* game they cheated in. They cheated using a video camera in a game that counted for something. Rodney Harrison cheated using HGH *and* is still an employee of the NE Patsies. This is enough evidence for *everyone* (besides you) to tarnish their dynasty , their reputation, and anything other than the nice little secretay that files payrol checks. Period. Just becasue they havent cheated in the scenario's that you keep fictitiously cooking up (reply after reply) means *jack shit*. You areonly doing this to divert, red-herring, smokescreen this resulting conclusion so that you may somehow continue your unfounded assumption that we cannot prove that their dynasty, their organization should be tarnished in the public eye. Real life events have proven you wrong on this. It's not even a question at this point. Now for your turn, and I expect that you will continue your juvenile-inspired,stupid scenarios that will bounce off and not affect the "great wall" of evidence that exists against NE. Please, entertain us some more.</p>

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller)</div><div class='quotemain'>

It's possible the Patriots cheated to the degree you believe, but this issue is quite complex and there isn't a superfluous amount of evidence the way you talk about it. Has anyone even accused the Pats of video taping in the playoffs? Again, if the Pats start losing early in the playoffs from now on, I might agree with you. </p>

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And here is the apex of your misunderstanding, or rather, your denial. It doesn't matter *what* game they cheated in. They cheated using a video camera in a game that counted for something. Rodney Harrison cheated using HGH *and* is still an employee of the NE Patsies. This is enough evidence for *everyone* (besides you) to tarnish their dynasty , their reputation, and anything other than the nice little secretay that files payrol checks. Period. Just becasue they havent cheated in the scenario's that you keep fictitiously cooking up (reply after reply) means *jack shit*. You are only doing this to divert, red-herring, smokescreen this resulting conclusion so that you may somehow continue your unfounded assumption that we cannot prove that their dynasty, their organization should be tarnished in the public eye. Real life events have proven you wrong on this. It's not even a question at this point. Now for your turn, and I expect that you will continue your juvenile-inspired, stupid scenarios that will bounce off and not affect the "great wall" of evidence that exists against NE. Please, entertain us some more.</p></div>

Well then this is a matter of semantics. To me this does"tarnish" their dynasty, just not to the level you're already at. I'm in a wait and see mode. That's all that has to be said really. </p>

 

Of course you'd dispute my previous post. You are after all the pridefully self proclaimed omniscient one on this site. That is what the tagline to your acatar implies right?</p>

Obfuscating, throwing out red herrings,& disagreeing w/ concrete facts such a dictionary definition areexactly what ROTR & I are trying ever so clownishly to point out.Just call him Homey D & I get to be Krusty. </p>

I wonder if we continue not to play by your rules; Does this mean you'lltake your ball & go home?</p>

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Of course you'd dispute my previous post. You are after all the pridefully self proclaimed omniscient one on this site. That is what the tagline to your acatar implies right?</p>

Obfuscating, throwing out red herrings, & disagreeing w/ concrete facts such a dictionary definition are exactly what ROTR & I are trying ever so clownishly to point out. Just call him Homey D & I get to be Krusty. </p>

I wonder if we continue not to play by your rules; Does this mean you'll take your ball & go home? </p></div>

I disagreed with concrete facts? Lol, where? You can say I argue against the facts, but if you can't bring up a single example then your case looks quite weak. </p>

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>

<font face="georgia,palatino"><font size="3">I did not label you as a Patsie lover just a Patsie defender. </font></font></p>

<font face="georgia,palatino"><font size="3">One thing I know for certain is you are not a legal scholar. My previous post stated was <u>not slander nor was it <span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'">libel</span></u></font></font></p>

<font size="+0"><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/slander</span></font></font></p>

<font size="+0"><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><font color="#800080"><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel" target="_blank">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel</font></a></span></span></font></font></p></div>

Hmm I would dispute that, but it doesn't matter what you want to call it.</p>

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You would dispute what? Dictionary.com? reality? both? Obviously the words mean what you want them to mean when you post. I will do the same thing</p>

peanut rabbit hiccup the same day respond? Idiom whatever frog large we i so for to.</p>

Hmmm, maybe it would be better if we stick with the definitions in the dictionary. </p>

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Of course you'd dispute my previous post. You are after all the pridefully self proclaimed omniscient one on this site. That is what the tagline to your acatar implies right?</p>

Obfuscating, throwing out red herrings, & disagreeing w/ concrete facts such a dictionary definition are exactly what ROTR & I are trying ever so clownishly to point out. Just call him Homey D & I get to be Krusty. </p>

I wonder if we continue not to play by your rules; Does this mean you'll take your ball & go home? </p></div>

</p>

He is a legend in his own mind, and provides us with endless non-sensical entertainment. He is, in fact, irrelevant with respect to any discussed topic.</p>

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[quote name='The Return of the Raider'][quote name='blackadder']

Of course you'd dispute my previous post. You are after all the pridefully self proclaimed omniscient one on this site. That is what the tagline to your acatar implies right?</p>

Obfuscating, throwing out red herrings, & disagreeing w/ concrete facts such a dictionary definition are exactly what ROTR & I are trying ever so clownishly to point out. Just call him Homey D & I get to be Krusty. </p>

I wonder if we continue not to play by your rules; Does this mean you'll take your ball & go home? </p>[/QUOTE]

</p>

He is a legend in his own mind, and provides us with endless non-sensical entertainment. He is, in fact, irrelevant with respect to any discussed topic.</p>

</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

You're not even smart enough to retort some of my basic questions. All you can do now is change the subject to the meaning of "slander", which is a frivolous subject. </p>

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[quote name='BearsFan1'][quote name='huevonkiller'][quote name='blackadder'] </p>

<font face="georgia,palatino"><font size="3">I did not label you as a Patsie lover just a Patsie defender. </font></font></p>

<font face="georgia,palatino"><font size="3">One thing I know for certain is you are not a legal scholar. My previous post stated was <u>not slander nor was it <span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'">libel</span></u></font></font></p>

<font size="-0"><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/slander</span></font></font></p>

<font size="-0"><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><font color="#800080"><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel" target="_blank">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel</font></a></span></span></font></font></p>[/QUOTE]

Hmm I would dispute that, but it doesn't matter what you want to call it.</p>

[/QUOTE] </p>

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You would dispute what? Dictionary.com? reality? both? Obviously the words mean what you want them to mean when you post. I will do the same thing</p>

peanut rabbit hiccup the same day respond? Idiom whatever frog large we i so for to.</p>

Hmmm, maybe it would be better if we stick with the definitions in the dictionary. </p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

Most people that complain about the Pats aren't committing slander/libel, just you geniuses. </p>

Edit- </p><span class="me">li&middot;bel</span> <span class="pronset"> <span class="show_ipapr" style="display: none"><span class="prondelim">/</span><span class="pron">ˈlaɪbəl</span><span class="prondelim">/</span> <a title="Click for pronunciation key" onclick="pk = window.open('/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html', 'PronunciationKey','height=700,width=560,left=0,top=0,resizable,scrollbars');if(pk){pk.focus();}">Pronunciation Key</a><span class="pron_toggle" style="display: inline"><span class="prondelim"> - </span><a title="Click to show spelled pronunciation" onclick="java script:show_sp()">Show Spelled Pronunciation</a></span></span><span class="show_spellpr" style="display: inline"><span class="prondelim">[</span><span class="pron">lahy-buhl</span><span class="prondelim">]</span> <a title="Click for pronunciation key" onclick="pk = window.open('/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html', 'PronunciationKey','height=700,width=560,left=0,top=0,resizable,scrollbars');if(pk){pk.focus();}">Pronunciation Key</a><span class="pron_toggle" style="display: inline"><span class="prondelim"> - </span><a title="Click to show IPA pronunciation" onclick="java script:show_ip()">Show IPA Pronunciation</a></span></span> </span><span class="pg">noun, verb, </span><span class="secondary-bf">-beled, </span><span class="secondary-bf">-bel&middot;ing </span><span class="rom-inline">or </span><span class="labset">(<span class="ital-inline">especially British</span>) </span><span class="secondary-bf">-belled, </span><span class="secondary-bf">-bel&middot;ling. </span><span class="pg">&ndash;noun </span><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">1.</td><td valign="top"><span class="labset"><span class="ital-inline">Law</span>. </span><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">a.</td><td valign="top">defamation by written or printed words, pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures. </td></tr></tbody></table> <table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">b.</td><td valign="top">the act or crime of publishing it. </td></tr></tbody></table> <table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">c.</td><td valign="top">a formal written declaration or statement, as one containing the allegations of a plaintiff or the grounds of a charge. </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">2.</td><td valign="top">anything that is defamatory or that maliciously or damagingly misrepresents. </td></tr></tbody></table> <span class="pg">&ndash;verb (used with object) </span><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">3.</td><td valign="top">to publish a libel against. </td></tr></tbody></table> <table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">4.</td><td valign="top">to misrepresent damagingly. </td></tr></tbody></table> <table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">5.</td><td valign="top">to institute suit against by a libel, as in an admiralty court. </td></tr></tbody></table> <hr class="ety" />

 

[quote name='huevonkiller'][quote name='The Return of the Raider'][quote name='blackadder']

Of course you'd dispute my previous post. You are after all the pridefully self proclaimed omniscient one on this site. That is what the tagline to your acatar implies right?</p>

Obfuscating, throwing out red herrings, & disagreeing w/ concrete facts such a dictionary definition are exactly what ROTR & I are trying ever so clownishly to point out. Just call him Homey D & I get to be Krusty. </p>

I wonder if we continue not to play by your rules; Does this mean you'll take your ball & go home? </p>[/QUOTE]

</p>

He is a legend in his own mind, and provides us with endless non-sensical entertainment. He is, in fact, irrelevant with respect to any discussed topic.</p>

</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

You're not even smart enough to retort some of my basic questions. All you can do now is change the subject to the meaning of "slander", which is a frivolous subject. </p>

</p>

[quote name='BearsFan1'][quote name='huevonkiller'][quote name='blackadder'] </p>

<font face="georgia,palatino"><font size="3">I did not label you as a Patsie lover just a Patsie defender. </font></font></p>

<font face="georgia,palatino"><font size="3">One thing I know for certain is you are not a legal scholar. My previous post stated was <u>not slander nor was it <span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'">libel</span></u></font></font></p>

<font size="+0"><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/slander</span></font></font></p>

<font size="+0"><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><font color="#800080"><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel" target="_blank">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel</font></a></span></span></font></font></p>[/QUOTE]

Hmm I would dispute that, but it doesn't matter what you want to call it.</p>

[/QUOTE] </p>

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You would dispute what? Dictionary.com? reality? both? Obviously the words mean what you want them to mean when you post. I will do the same thing</p>

peanut rabbit hiccup the same day respond? Idiom whatever frog large we i so for to.</p>

Hmmm, maybe it would be better if we stick with the definitions in the dictionary. </p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

But that's precisely what I suggest! What a coincidence. </p>

Most people that are upset with the Patriots are not slandering them imo, just you geniuses. </p>

Let's see, they cheat in most games now, feed their players HGH, pay off the refs, and such. Look at #3, you haven't got the level of evidence to support your claims. </p>

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<span class="me">slan&middot;der</span> <span class="pronset"> <span class="show_ipapr" style="display: none"><span class="prondelim">/</span><span class="pron">ˈsl&aelig;ndər</span><span class="prondelim">/</span> <a title="Click for pronunciation key" onclick="pk = window.open('/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html', 'PronunciationKey','height=700,width=560,left=0,top=0,resizable,scrollbars');if(pk){pk.focus();}">Pronunciation Key</a><span class="pron_toggle" style="display: inline"><span class="prondelim"> - </span><a title="Click to show spelled pronunciation" onclick="java script:show_sp()">Show Spelled Pronunciation</a></span></span><span class="show_spellpr" style="display: inline"><span class="prondelim">[</span><span class="pron">slan-der</span><span class="prondelim">]</span> <a title="Click for pronunciation key" onclick="pk = window.open('/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html', 'PronunciationKey','height=700,width=560,left=0,top=0,resizable,scrollbars');if(pk){pk.focus();}">Pronunciation Key</a><span class="pron_toggle" style="display: inline"><span class="prondelim"> - </span><a title="Click to show IPA pronunciation" onclick="java script:show_ip()">Show IPA Pronunciation</a></span></span> </span><span class="pg">&ndash;noun </span></p><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">1.</td><td valign="top">defamation; calumny: <span class="ital-inline">rumors full of slander. </span></td></tr></tbody></table><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">2.</td><td valign="top">a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report: <span class="ital-inline">a slander against his good name. </span></td></tr></tbody></table><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">3.</td><td valign="top"><span class="labset"><span class="ital-inline">Law</span>. </span>defamation by oral utterance rather than by writing, pictures, etc. </td></tr></tbody></table><span class="pg">&ndash;verb (used with object) </span><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">4.</td><td valign="top">to utter slander against; defame. </td></tr></tbody></table><span class="pg">&ndash;verb (used without object) </span><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">5.</td><td valign="top">to utter or circulate slander.</td></tr></tbody></table>

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Slander = spoken word</p>

Libel = written. </p>

Ok . . . .let it sink in . . .ah now you get it.</p>

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller)</div><div class='quotemain'>

It's possible the Patriots cheated to the degree you believe, but this issue is quite complex and there isn't a superfluous amount of evidence the way you talk about it. Has anyone even accused the Pats of video taping in the playoffs? Again, if the Pats start losing early in the playoffs from now on, I might agree with you. </p>

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And here is the apex of your misunderstanding, or rather, your denial. It doesn't matter *what* game they cheated in. They cheated using a video camera in a game that counted for something. Rodney Harrison cheated using HGH *and* is still an employee of the NE Patsies. This is enough evidence for *everyone* (besides you) to tarnish their dynasty , their reputation, and anything other than the nice little secretay that files payrol checks. Period. Just becasue they havent cheated in the scenario's that you keep fictitiously cooking up (reply after reply) means *jack shit*. You are only doing this to divert, red-herring, smokescreen this resulting conclusion so that you may somehow continue your unfounded assumption that we cannot prove that their dynasty, their organization should be tarnished in the public eye. Real life events have proven you wrong on this. It's not even a question at this point. Now for your turn, and I expect that you will continue your juvenile-inspired, stupid scenarios that will bounce off and not affect the "great wall" of evidence that exists against NE. Please, entertain us some more.</p></div>

Well then this is a matter of semantics. To me this does"tarnish" their dynasty, just not to the level you're already at. I'm in a wait and see mode. That's all that has to be said really. </p></div>

Basically the patriots cheating is like being a child molester. Once you get caught molesting a child, no one really believes it is the only one you have molested, and no one thinks you are going to stop just cuz you got caught. Belichek = the child molester of the NFL. How is that for libel? or is it still slander? Maybe if you have voice recognition software that makes it count as slander? LOL</p>

 

You see, you somehow think me using one word incorrectly is more egregious than believing every single conspiracy theory about the Pats. You said you know BB let's his player juice up, and you were complaining about completely legal tactics. That's exponetially more moronic.</p>

BTW, do you talk like this in real life? Than you are committing slander, which I assumed you did.</p>

[quote name='BearsFan1'][quote name='huevonkiller'][quote name='The Return of the Raider'][quote name='blackadder'] </p>

Of course you'd dispute my previous post. You are after all the pridefully self proclaimed omniscient one on this site. That is what the tagline to your acatar implies right?</p>

Obfuscating, throwing out red herrings, & disagreeing w/ concrete facts such a dictionary definition are exactly what ROTR & I are trying ever so clownishly to point out. Just call him Homey D & I get to be Krusty. </p>

I wonder if we continue not to play by your rules; Does this mean you'll take your ball & go home? </p>[/QUOTE]

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He is a legend in his own mind, and provides us with endless non-sensical entertainment. He is, in fact, irrelevant with respect to any discussed topic.</p>

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You're not even smart enough to retort some of my basic questions. All you can do now is change the subject to the meaning of "slander", which is a frivolous subject. </p>

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[quote name='BearsFan1'][quote name='huevonkiller'][quote name='blackadder'] </p>

<font face="georgia,palatino"><font size="3">I did not label you as a Patsie lover just a Patsie defender. </font></font></p>

<font face="georgia,palatino"><font size="3">One thing I know for certain is you are not a legal scholar. My previous post stated was <u>not slander nor was it <span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'">libel</span></u></font></font></p>

<font size="-0"><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/slander</span></font></font></p>

<font size="-0"><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><font color="#800080"><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel" target="_blank">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel</font></a></span></span></font></font></p>[/QUOTE]

Hmm I would dispute that, but it doesn't matter what you want to call it.</p>

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You would dispute what? Dictionary.com? reality? both? Obviously the words mean what you want them to mean when you post. I will do the same thing</p>

peanut rabbit hiccup the same day respond? Idiom whatever frog large we i so for to.</p>

Hmmm, maybe it would be better if we stick with the definitions in the dictionary. </p>

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But that's precisely what I suggest! What a coincidence. </p>

Most people that are upset with the Patriots are not slandering them imo, just you geniuses. </p>

Let's see, they cheat in most games now, feed their players HGH, pay off the refs, and such. Look at #3, you haven't got the level of evidence to support your claims. </p>

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<span class="me">slan&middot;der</span> <span class="pronset"> <span class="show_ipapr" style="display: none"><span class="prondelim">/</span><span class="pron">ˈsl&aelig;ndər</span><span class="prondelim">/</span> <a title="Click for pronunciation key" onclick="pk = window.open('/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html', 'PronunciationKey','height=700,width=560,left=0,top=0,resizable,scrollbars');if(pk){pk.focus();}">Pronunciation Key</a><span class="pron_toggle" style="display: inline"><span class="prondelim"> - </span><a title="Click to show spelled pronunciation" onclick="java script:show_sp()">Show Spelled Pronunciation</a></span></span><span class="show_spellpr" style="display: inline"><span class="prondelim">[</span><span class="pron">slan-der</span><span class="prondelim">]</span> <a title="Click for pronunciation key" onclick="pk = window.open('/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html', 'PronunciationKey','height=700,width=560,left=0,top=0,resizable,scrollbars');if(pk){pk.focus();}">Pronunciation Key</a><span class="pron_toggle" style="display: inline"><span class="prondelim"> - </span><a title="Click to show IPA pronunciation" onclick="java script:show_ip()">Show IPA Pronunciation</a></span></span> </span><span class="pg">&ndash;noun </span></p><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">1.</td><td valign="top">defamation; calumny: <span class="ital-inline">rumors full of slander. </span></td></tr></tbody></table><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">2.</td><td valign="top">a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report: <span class="ital-inline">a slander against his good name. </span></td></tr></tbody></table><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">3.</td><td valign="top"><span class="labset"><span class="ital-inline">Law</span>. </span>defamation by oral utterance rather than by writing, pictures, etc. </td></tr></tbody></table><span class="pg">&ndash;verb (used with object) </span><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">4.</td><td valign="top">to utter slander against; defame. </td></tr></tbody></table><span class="pg">&ndash;verb (used without object) </span><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">5.</td><td valign="top">to utter or circulate slander.</td></tr></tbody></table>

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Slander = spoken word</p>

Libel = written. </p>

Ok . . . .let it sink in . . .ah now you get it.</p>[/QUOTE]

Lol ok you're right, I use the term incorrectly, all apologies. I'm not a legal scholar, just a Bio-Medical Engineering major (heh). Care to get back on subject?</p>

What the hell does it matter? I mean seriously, I could care less. It's "Libel" (and/or slander in real life smart one, I'm still right about that since you probably talk like this in real life) then, I'm mature enough to figure out when I've made a mistake. You people are babies with all your antics.</p>

I hate libel more than the Patriots. That's what I meant to accuse you dorks of. </p><span class="me">li&middot;bel</span> <span class="pronset"> <span class="show_ipapr" style="display: none"><span class="prondelim">/</span><span class="pron">ˈlaɪbəl</span><span class="prondelim">/</span> <a title="Click for pronunciation key" onclick="pk = window.open('/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html', 'PronunciationKey','height=700,width=560,left=0,top=0,resizable,scrollbars');if(pk){pk.focus();}">Pronunciation Key</a><span class="pron_toggle" style="display: inline"><span class="prondelim"> - </span><a title="Click to show spelled pronunciation" onclick="java script:show_sp()">Show Spelled Pronunciation</a></span></span><span class="show_spellpr" style="display: inline"><span class="prondelim">[</span><span class="pron">lahy-buhl</span><span class="prondelim">]</span> <a title="Click for pronunciation key" onclick="pk = window.open('/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html', 'PronunciationKey','height=700,width=560,left=0,top=0,resizable,scrollbars');if(pk){pk.focus();}">Pronunciation Key</a><span class="pron_toggle" style="display: inline"><span class="prondelim"> - </span><a title="Click to show IPA pronunciation" onclick="java script:show_ip()">Show IPA Pronunciation</a></span></span> </span><span class="pg">noun, verb, </span><span class="secondary-bf">-beled, </span><span class="secondary-bf">-bel&middot;ing </span><span class="rom-inline">or </span><span class="labset">(<span class="ital-inline">especially British</span>) </span><span class="secondary-bf">-belled, </span><span class="secondary-bf">-bel&middot;ling. </span><span class="pg">&ndash;noun </span><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">1.</td><td valign="top"><span class="labset"><span class="ital-inline">Law</span>. </span><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">a.</td><td valign="top">defamation by written or printed words, pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures. </td></tr></tbody></table> <table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">b.</td><td valign="top">the act or crime of publishing it. </td></tr></tbody></table> <table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">c.</td><td valign="top">a formal written declaration or statement, as one containing the allegations of a plaintiff or the grounds of a charge. </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">2.</td><td valign="top">anything that is defamatory or that maliciously or damagingly misrepresents. </td></tr></tbody></table> <span class="pg">&ndash;verb (used with object) </span><table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">3.</td><td valign="top">to publish a libel against. </td></tr></tbody></table> <table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">4.</td><td valign="top">to misrepresent damagingly. </td></tr></tbody></table> <table border="0" class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">5.</td><td valign="top">to institute suit against by a libel, as in an admiralty court. </td></tr></tbody></table> <hr class="ety" />

 

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Lol ok you're right, I use the term incorrectly, all apologies. I'm not a legal scholar, just a Bio-Medical Engineering major (heh). Care to get back on subject?</p>

What the hell does it matter? I mean seriously, I could care less. It's "Libel" (and or slander in real life) then, I'm mature enough to figure out when I've made a mistake. You people are babies with all your antics.</p>

I hate libel more than the Patriots. That's what I meant to accuse you dorks of.</p><hr class="ety" /></div>

I had you pegged as a pre-teen using your parents' computer. The jury is still out on that one.</p>

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider)</div><div class='quotemain'>I had you pegged as a pre-teen using your parents' computer. The jury is still out on that one.</div></p>

When was the last time your reply contained information to actually support your views? You only have verbal flourishes, and false analogies. I like verbal flourishes myself, but I actually like to throw in a bit of real information into my posts as well, try it some time. </p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Of course you'd dispute my previous post. You are after all the pridefully self proclaimed omniscient one on this site. That is what the tagline to your acatar implies right?</p>

Obfuscating, throwing out red herrings, & disagreeing w/ concrete facts such a dictionary definition are exactly what ROTR & I are trying ever so clownishly to point out. Just call him Homey D & I get to be Krusty. </p>

I wonder if we continue not to play by your rules; Does this mean you'll take your ball & go home? </p></div>

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He is a legend in his own mind, and provides us with endless non-sensical entertainment. He is, in fact, irrelevant with respect to any discussed topic.</p>

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What's non-sensical about my views? Making up things I never said is non-sensical, which your posts are the epitome of. </p>

So I'm supposed to believe you share different views about the Pats when you orally discuss this subject? Uh lol, ok then. </p>