Ensuring the win - stealing signals with video cameras

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Basically the patriots cheating is like being a child molester. Once you get caught molesting a child, no one really believes it is the only one you have molested, and no one thinks you are going to stop just cuz you got caught. Belichek = the child molester of the NFL. How is that for libel? or is it still slander? Maybe if you have voice recognition software that makes it count as slander? LOL</div>

You see, you somehow think me using one word incorrectly is more egregious than believing every single conspiracy theory about the Pats. You said you know BB let's his player juice up, and you were complaining about completely legal tactics. That's exponetially more moronic.</p>

BTW, do you talk like this in real life? Than you are committing slander, which I assumed you did. </p><hr class="ety" /></div>

I dont believe every conspiracy about the pats. For example i dont believe any of the following conspiracy theories</p>

1. BB was the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll</p>

2. BB is the one who helped N. Korea acquire nuclear materials.</p>

3. Brady is fathering children out of wedlock . . .oh ooops, that one is true</p>

The point is, once you cheat, you become . . . a cheater! As a verified cheater you keep the label forever. No matter what you do for the rest of your life, no matter what you did previously, the gloom of cheating remains over it forever. You can never earn back fully the mantle of someone who didnt get caught cheating.</p>

 

So, HK, The dictionary definitions you provided are absolute gospel truth but mine are farm fresh grade A bull-plop? Even though, they are dang near identical?</p>

That's rather odd IMO.</p>

I'd like to tell you where you can sticksome of those prosthetic devices that you'll soon be making.Having aB.S. in Geography, I feel competent in pointing out locations for others. However, I am not going to as It gives me a migraine headache thinking down to your level (Quick name the group & song I'm quoting?)</p>

See ya in the funnies, sunshine.</p>

 

[quote name='blackadder']

So, HK, The dictionary definitions you provided are absolute gospel truth but mine are farm fresh grade A bull-plop? Even though, they are dang near identical?</p>

That's rather odd IMO.</p>

I'd like to tell you where you can stick some of those prosthetic devices that you'll soon be making. Having a B.S. in Geography, I feel competent in pointing out locations for others. However, I am not going to as It gives me a migraine headache thinking down to your level (Quick name the group & song I'm quoting?)</p>

See ya in the funnies, sunshine.</p>[/QUOTE]

Wow are you dense? They are exactly the same definitions (I just felt like copying and pasting them; I was going to highlight what I felt applied to you in the definitions), and why would you think that libel/slander doesn't apply to you?</p>

[quote name='BearsFan1']</p>

I think they should be forced to forfeit the game. Also, take away all the previous championships.[/Quote]</p>

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Yes, you're a maniacal conspiracy theorist.</p>

 

I could be as dense as the fog in London but that is neither here nor there.</p>

My pointwas why try &1 up me byreplicating something I'd already done?</p>

 

For the record, I never said or implied I was immune from libel/slander. Further, I am the conspiracy theorist & BF1 is the pragmatic, sensibleone

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>For the record, I never said or implied I was immune from libel/slander.</div></p>

Ah well that's polite to admit that.</p>

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Further, I am the conspiracy theorist & BF1 is the pragmatic, sensible one</div></p>

Both of you are CTs, BF1 just might be less extreme in that case then. I already reposted BF1's previous fanatical points. </p>

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>

I could be as dense as the fog in London but that is neither here nor there. </p>

My point was why try & 1 up me by replicating something I'd already done?</p>

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BA, I don't like slander, please stop slandering yourself.</p>

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>

I could be as dense as the fog in London but that is neither here nor there. </p>

My point was why try & 1 up me by replicating something I'd already done?</p>

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BA, I don't like slander, please stop slandering yourself.</p>

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When did I say everything BA said was slander?</p>

Remember I mentioned that most people that hate the Pats are not committing slander or libel in my opinion, just a select few.</p>

 

[quote name='huevonkiller'][quote name='blackadder']

So, HK, The dictionary definitions you provided are absolute gospel truth but mine are farm fresh grade A bull-plop? Even though, they are dang near identical?</p>

That's rather odd IMO.</p>

I'd like to tell you where you can stick some of those prosthetic devices that you'll soon be making. Having a B.S. in Geography, I feel competent in pointing out locations for others. However, I am not going to as It gives me a migraine headache thinking down to your level (Quick name the group & song I'm quoting?)</p>

See ya in the funnies, sunshine.</p>[/QUOTE]

Wow are you dense? They are exactly the same definitions (I just felt like copying and pasting them; I was going to highlight what I felt applied to you in the definitions), and why would you think that libel/slander doesn't apply to you?</p>

[quote name='BearsFan1']</p>

I think they should be forced to forfeit the game. Also, take away all the previous championships.[/Quote]</p>

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Yes, you're a maniacal conspiracy theorist.</p>[/QUOTE]

Well . . .</p>

me stating what i think they should do isnt a conspiracy theory.</p>

me stating what they did do isnt a conspiracy theory. </p>

I did speculate that they cheated other ways, but that is in fact what cheaters do. THEY CHEAT. </p>

Obviously the issue is with the definitions of these words</p>

Cheat - <span class="sense_label start">1 a</span><span class="sense_content">:to practice fraud or trickery</span> <span class="sense_label">b</span><span class="sense_content">:to violate rules dishonestly <<<>>> or my own personal defination . . .To favre someone</span></p>

<span class="sense_content">Prove - <span class="sense_label start">3 a</span><span class="sense_content">:to establish the existence, truth, or validity of.</span></span></p>

<span class="sense_content"><span class="sense_content">Now it is Proven that the patriots did cheat via video tape confiscated at a game and that rodney harrison cheatedvia a drug test that turned up HGH. </span></span></p>

<span class="sense_content"><span class="sense_content">Thus, i have MULTIPLE INSTANCES of a group of people PROVEN to have CHEATED to win NFL football games. Logically, One would assume from this that the group is attempting to CHEAT. I looked at what had happened to this same group of people and took existing facts (Like that belichek has been fined for his lying on injury reports) and taken the next logicalstep that he is using this as another way to CHEAT. It makes sense because they have been caught using HGH and they have been caught manipulating injury reports, and they have been PROVEN TO BE CHEATERS.</span></span></p>

<span class="sense_content"><span class="sense_content">Thats not a conspiracy theory! It is looking at what they have done (CHEATED) and saying hey! I would be an idiot not to realize that just cuz they only got caught doing this once to think they only did it once. Also, Since they have cheated at all these things to get competetive advantage, maybe their goal isnt to cheat at these 2 things, but to cheat to win. OMG thier goal was to win, and they cheated to accomplish it, and i speculated from that other very logical ways they probably cheated based on existing facts!!! I MUST HAVE LIBELED THEM!!! HOW DARE I DRAW THE CONCLUSION THEY WOULD CHEAT FROM THE FACT THEY CHEATED!!!! IT IS AN OUTRAGE</span></span></p>

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BF1, let's not forget that Rodney Harrison is *still* employed by the Patriots despite being tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs. </p>

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Well . . .</p>

me stating what i think they should do isnt a conspiracy theory.</p>

me stating what they did do isnt a conspiracy theory. </p>

I did speculate that they cheated other ways, but that is in fact what cheaters do. THEY CHEAT. </p>

Obviously the issue is with the definitions of these words</p>

Cheat - <span class="sense_label start">1 a</span><span class="sense_content">: to practice fraud or trickery</span> <span class="sense_label">b</span><span class="sense_content">: to violate rules dishonestly <<<>>> or my own personal defination . . .To favre someone</span></p>

<span class="sense_content">Prove - <span class="sense_label start">3 a</span><span class="sense_content">: to establish the existence, truth, or validity of.</span></span></p>

<span class="sense_content"><span class="sense_content">Now it is Proven that the patriots did cheat via video tape confiscated at a game and that rodney harrison cheated via a drug test that turned up HGH. </span></span></p>

<span class="sense_content"><span class="sense_content">Thus, i have MULTIPLE INSTANCES of a group of people PROVEN to have CHEATED to win NFL football games. Logically, One would assume from this that the group is attempting to CHEAT.</div></span></span></p>

They cheated by using video tape, not just in any fashion you came up with.</p>

<span class="sense_content"><span class="sense_content"><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I looked at what had happened to this same group of people and took existing facts (Like that belichek has been fined for his lying on injury reports) and taken the next logical step that he is using this as another way to CHEAT. It makes sense because they have been caught using HGH and they have been caught manipulating injury reports, and they have been PROVEN TO BE CHEATERS.</div></span></span></p>

"They" have been caught with HGH?</p>

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<span class="sense_content"><span class="sense_content">Thats not a conspiracy theory! It is looking at what they have done (CHEATED) and saying hey! I would be an idiot not to realize that just cuz they only got caught doing this once to think they only did it once. Also, Since they have cheated at all these things to get competetive advantage, maybe their goal isnt to cheat at these 2 things, but to cheat to win. OMG thier goal was to win, and they cheated to accomplish it, and i speculated from that other very logical ways they probably cheated based on existing facts!!! I MUST HAVE LIBELED THEM!!! HOW DARE I DRAW THE CONCLUSION THEY WOULD CHEAT FROM THE FACT THEY CHEATED!!!! IT IS AN OUTRAGE</span></span></p>

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What is your circumstantial evidence to suggest they cheated with HGH or the compensatory pick system? You can't just make up stuff. </p>

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider)</div><div class='quotemain'>

BF1, let's not forget that Rodney Harrison is *still* employed by the Patriots despite being tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs. </p>

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I am pretty sure Harrison didnt make the HGH in his own lab. </p>

 

[quote name='huevonkiller'][quote name='BearsFan1']

Well . . .</p>

me stating what i think they should do isnt a conspiracy theory.</p>

me stating what they did do isnt a conspiracy theory. </p>

I did speculate that they cheated other ways, but that is in fact what cheaters do. THEY CHEAT. </p>

Obviously the issue is with the definitions of these words</p>

Cheat - <span class="sense_label start">1 a</span><span class="sense_content">: to practice fraud or trickery</span> <span class="sense_label">b</span><span class="sense_content">: to violate rules dishonestly <<<>>> or my own personal defination . . .To favre someone</span></p>

<span class="sense_content">Prove - <span class="sense_label start">3 a</span><span class="sense_content">: to establish the existence, truth, or validity of.</span></span></p>

<span class="sense_content"><span class="sense_content">Now it is Proven that the patriots did cheat via video tape confiscated at a game and that rodney harrison cheated via a drug test that turned up HGH. </span></span></p>

<span class="sense_content"><span class="sense_content">Thus, i have MULTIPLE INSTANCES of a group of people PROVEN to have CHEATED to win NFL football games. Logically, One would assume from this that the group is attempting to CHEAT.[/Quote]</span></span></p>

They cheated by using video tape, not just in any fashion you came up with.</p>

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"They" have been caught with HGH?</p>

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What is your circumstantial evidence to suggest they cheated with HGH or the compensatory pick system? You can't just make up stuff. </p>[/QUOTE]

Well, my evidence isnt circumstantial. It is substantial. </p>

Harrison tested positive for HGH. he plays for patriots. Thus, they tested positive for HGH. He is them, they are him. He is part of orginization. They didnt cut him</p>

They were fined for injury report. Its a fact. Search on google. There are a lot of articles about patriots manipulating injury report.</p>

HGH reduces recovery time. Google that. Its true! </p>

So, we have a team. That has a player (who was injured and recovered faster than expected) who used HGH, and theymanipulate injury report so no one knows how injured their players really are. Yep, crazy to think they have more than one injured player doing that</p>

You got me.</p>

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Well, my evidence isnt circumstantial. It is substantial.</div></p>

Oooohhhh, a little Cochran right there, nice.</p>

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Harrison tested positive for HGH. he plays for patriots. Thus, they tested positive for HGH. He is them, they are him. He is part of orginization. They didnt cut him</div></p>

Why do they have to cut him? He's going to serve his time. If the NFL doesn't ban people from the league on their first HGH offense that is their fault.</p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'></p>

They were fined for injury report. Its a fact. Search on google. There are a lot of articles about patriots manipulating injury report.</p>

HGH reduces recovery time. Google that. Its true! </p>

So, we have a team. That has a player (who was injured and recovered faster than expected) who used HGH, and they manipulate injury report so no one knows how injured their players really are. Yep, crazy to think they have more than one injured player doing that</p>

You got me.</p>

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And there isn't a reliable test for HGH, google that. So if they thought Rodney/Player-X was clean, but he wasn't, they wouldn't be able to tell. </p>

 

"My purpose was never to gain a competitive edge," he said Friday night. "Rather, my use was solely for the purpose of accelerating the healing process of injuries I sustained while playing football"</p>

There you have his quote. So HGH or not, the point is valid</p>

http://sports.myway.com/news/09012007/v5345.html</p>

There is the link to the article.</p>

 

Just a point for clarity. Rodney Harrison didn't fail a test for HGH because there isn't one. According to the Boston Globe, Harrison admitted that he was using HGH because the feds were investigating the company that Harrison was purchasing HGH from. Still, Rodney Harrison used a banned substance and is serving a four game suspension for being a cheater.