<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2005)</div><div class='quotemain'>Did we lose the game or get beat? We got beat by the better team....... this week.</div> That is the patriots victory in defeat chorus. obviously if you play them in playoffs and lost again, you wouldnt continue to claim you were the better team. You would have to be crazy or blinded by team love to do that.</div> I think you need to give me a chance to do that first. If we meet in the playoffs and lose, then I'm sure I'll say the better team won. Don't put me with those Patsies.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats_Fan420)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>Do you honestly think the outcome would have been that much different? Can't you just give the Jags credit & move on? You said yourself that Ben would be ready like you had some inside knowledge. The Steelers could have chosen to go with Batch at any point in the game, but the defending SB champs felt their best chance to win was with Big Ben. Now you're questioning the decision making of the longest current tenured HC of the NFL?</div> Its funny how fans blame their team for losing the game instead of the opposing team beating their team when they start winning Super Bowls. Not talking smack, I'm one of them. I'd be willing to bet that good ol' Dale would be the same way if the Dolphins formed a dynasty. No I don't have anything to substantiate that claim either. It is just an opinion.</div> How is it funny that on an NFL forum fans debate why their team won or lost and what they could have done to play a better game? Isn't that what this forum is for? I have said it many times, Jacksonville played a great game. I am very dissapointed at the Steelers playcalling. They were way too conservative against a team that was stacking safeites in the box all night long. If and this is an IF...if Ben being in the lineup changed their play calling then he should have never started.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>Do you honestly think the outcome would have been that much different? Can't you just give the Jags credit & move on? You said yourself that Ben would be ready like you had some inside knowledge. The Steelers could have chosen to go with Batch at any point in the game, but the defending SB champs felt their best chance to win was with Big Ben. Now you're questioning the decision making of the longest current tenured HC of the NFL?</div> There are a million things that either team could have done that would have affected the game. I think people with a low football IQ don't understand that a gameplan and how you implement it has more to do with the outcome of a game than any other factor. Coaching has a whole hell of alot to do with how the game turns out, especially when you have two teams that are very similar as far as talent and style goes. You are trying to tell me that the Jags are so much better than the Steelers that no matter what they did they could have never won? You make no sense
I'm making no sense? What did we say the Steelers key to success was? Running the ball. Now you want them to go against that. You don't have the talent to air it out on a team of that caliber on defense. The Jags were not stacking the box. Ben was throwing into coverage but successfully in the early going. BTW his temp was not 104 it was 100.4. Beef would appreciate those mundane details. Just because your team had an amazing run late in the season you honestly think you're head & shoulders above the rest of the league now? Even I'm not that naive.
You're the one who stated the Steelers would be able to run all over the Jags depleted D. Now who has the low football IQ? :stupid:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2005)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2005)</div><div class='quotemain'>Did we lose the game or get beat? We got beat by the better team....... this week.</div> That is the patriots victory in defeat chorus. obviously if you play them in playoffs and lost again, you wouldnt continue to claim you were the better team. You would have to be crazy or blinded by team love to do that.</div> I think you need to give me a chance to do that first. If we meet in the playoffs and lose, then I'm sure I'll say the better team won. Don't put me with those Patsies.</div> Thats what i said! I am giving you more credit
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>Can't you just give the Jags credit & move on?</div> Hey, MOS. This is the same guy who after losing to the broncos twice last year, claimed patriots proved they were the better team, dont let him lecture you.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Thats what i said! I am giving you more credit</div> I could revisit that game, but I'd prefer to be the bigger man & look ahead to Sunday night. In case you were wondering I am planning a victory party that night.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Thats what i said! I am giving you more credit</div> I could revisit that game, but I'd prefer to be the bigger man & look ahead to Sunday night. In case you were wondering I am planning a victory party that night. </div> I know the "bigger man" usually draws attention to the fact he thinks he is the bigger man. I am glad you said that, now surely we will all realize
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>I'm making no sense? What did we say the Steelers key to success was? Running the ball. Now you want them to go against that. You don't have the talent to air it out on a team of that caliber on defense. The Jags were not stacking the box. Ben was throwing into coverage but successfully in the early going. BTW his temp was not 104 it was 100.4. Beef would appreciate those mundane details. Just because your team had an amazing run late in the season you honestly think you're head & shoulders above the rest of the league now? Even I'm not that naive.</div> You have no idea what you are talking about, of the 5 leading tacklers in the game for the Jags, 4 of them were DBs. That is an incredible number....Now, take into consideration that the Steelers had absolutely no running yardage and that tells you that the DBs were blitzing the run and not covering receivers. When you have safeties and corners tackling your RB at the line of scrimmage, you need to throw on 1st and 2nd down. And he was not throwing into coverage, the guys were open. What does that mean I think my team is head and shoulders above any other team? How do you get that out of me saying the play-calling was awful??
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2005)</div><div class='quotemain'>Did we lose the game or get beat? We got beat by the better team....... this week.</div> That is the patriots victory in defeat chorus. obviously if you play them in playoffs and lost again, you wouldnt continue to claim you were the better team. You would have to be crazy or blinded by team love to do that.</div> As you are.
I didn't realize they said his temp was 104. 100.4 sounds more reasonable. He could not have played with a temp of 104. It would have been physically impossible because he would have been so out of it that he would have missed the snaps, if he could have made it out onto the field.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats_Fan420)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2005)</div><div class='quotemain'>Did we lose the game or get beat? We got beat by the better team....... this week.</div> That is the patriots victory in defeat chorus. obviously if you play them in playoffs and lost again, you wouldnt continue to claim you were the better team. You would have to be crazy or blinded by team love to do that.</div> As you are.</div> That's clever. Next time, try this one. YOUR MAMA!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats_Fan420)</div><div class='quotemain'>I didn't realize they said his temp was 104. 100.4 sounds more reasonable. He could not have played with a temp of 104. It would have been physically impossible because he would have been so out of it that he would have missed the snaps, if he could have made it out onto the field.</div> They said his temp on gameday was 100.4 on espn news today.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>What does that mean I think my team is head and shoulders above any other team? How do you get that out of me saying the play-calling was awful??</div> You've already back tracked from your original thread about the "depleted" jags. Now you're saying they're of equal talent. As far as I'm concerned you have no credibility.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats_Fan420)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'> That is the patriots victory in defeat chorus. obviously if you play them in playoffs and lost again, you wouldnt continue to claim you were the better team. You would have to be crazy or blinded by team love to do that.</div> As you are.</div> That's clever. Next time, try this one. YOUR MAMA!</div> I'd rather not think about someone else's mother. Thanks anyway.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>What does that mean I think my team is head and shoulders above any other team? How do you get that out of me saying the play-calling was awful??</div> You've already back tracked from your original thread about the "depleted" jags. Now you're saying they're of equal talent. As far as I'm concerned you have no credibility.</div> I was extremely confident that my team was going to beat Jacksonville, especially when I heard they were possibly going to be missing two of their starting DEs. Now, only one of them sat out the game, sitting out the whole year in fact...anyway, having confidence in my team and showing how and why I thought they would win suddenly gives me no credibility? Of course I backed down from saying the Steelers would win...THEY LOST!! what else am I supposed to do? I was wrong, Jax outplayed them...The Steelers and the Jags are a very similar team...how else would you like me to express that? As far as your credibility goes....why don't you answer my last post? Jax was stacking DBs in the box all night long. When they threw on 1st and 2nd down the WRs were open....now that I have presented you with the stats to back up my argument, why don't you continue to argue your point? or at least admit that you were wrong...
If you win an argument wiht bakes, that actually proves him right. That is how the patriots fans on this board operate.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As far as your credibility goes....why don't you answer my last post? Jax was stacking DBs in the box all night long. When they threw on 1st and 2nd down the WRs were open....now that I have presented you with the stats to back up my argument, why don't you continue to argue your point? or at least admit that you were wrong...</div> I don't know maybe they were in nickel or dime packages. I wasn't following it that closely, but it sure seemed like they had good coverage to me. The crux of my argument is you wanted the Steelers to go against what they do best & that just wasn't going to work. They don't have the talent to air it out against a quality defense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As far as your credibility goes....why don't you answer my last post? Jax was stacking DBs in the box all night long. When they threw on 1st and 2nd down the WRs were open....now that I have presented you with the stats to back up my argument, why don't you continue to argue your point? or at least admit that you were wrong...</div> I don't know maybe they were in nickel or dime packages. I wasn't following it that closely, but it sure seemed like they had good coverage to me. The crux of my argument is you wanted the Steelers to go against what they do best & that just wasn't going to work. They don't have the talent to air it out against a quality defense.</div> Well, now you really have shown that you have no football IQ. There were absolutely not in a nickel or dime package on first and second down. If you weren't following the game closely then why would you claim that the Jags never stacked the box? Of course I wanted the Steelers to throw, the Jags were stacking the box. They have a great QB and talented WRs, They aired it out early in every game of the playoffs, enabling them to win the super bowl. They didn't start running the ball until they were up by a couple scores on each team. You obviously know less about the Steelers than you claim so maybe you should just give up on this argument. Without the threat of Big Ben, even the Steelers offensive line would not be able to run the ball. The Jags showed that they weren't convinced that Ben would complete any balls on 1st or 2nd down....this enabled them to stack the box and the Steelers weren't able to run the ball all night. When a team does this you HAVE to throw the ball...the Steelers should have thrown more on 1st and 2nd down...that simple.
