They are going to miss the playoffs....that division is a killer....they will finish 3rd and be well out of the wild card race....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats_Fan420)</div><div class='quotemain'>I bet Brady or Manning would be the same way if they went through what he has though. When people get hurt and have health problems, it messes with them both physically and mentally.</div> Even Daunte? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats_Fan420)</div><div class='quotemain'>I still can't believe that I picked the Steelers to beat the Chargers at home last night. WTF was I thinking? I could have been 11-2 so far with my weekly picks.</div> I picked the home team last night.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I think benching Rothlisberger would be a mistake, unless he needs more time to heal. Batch isn't the answer for the Steelers' future. Don't kill Rothlisberger's confidence. Let him play through this and find an offensive identity with his newer teammates. (After Ward, I didn't recognize the next couple of recievers in the boxscore.) It's up Cowher and his staff to find an offensive gameplan that will help his offense find some success and minimize their weaknesses until they find their way.</div> No obviously Batch isn't the future but these are defending SB champs & if they want a chance to defend that title in the post season they better make a change. This is not the preseason. These games count & if Ben isn't ready then he shouldn't be in there. Their biggest problem is being unable to run consistently. Without a ground game the Steelers offense isn't going any where. At least with Batch they can trust him to "manage" the game right now. Ben has done a pretty good job of killing his confidence on his own already. It's time for a change before it's too late.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I think benching Rothlisberger would be a mistake, unless he needs more time to heal. Batch isn't the answer for the Steelers' future. Don't kill Rothlisberger's confidence. Let him play through this and find an offensive identity with his newer teammates. (After Ward, I didn't recognize the next couple of recievers in the boxscore.) It's up Cowher and his staff to find an offensive gameplan that will help his offense find some success and minimize their weaknesses until they find their way.</div> No obviously Batch isn't the future but these are defending SB champs & if they want a chance to defend that title in the post season they better make a change. This is not the preseason. These games count & if Ben isn't ready then he shouldn't be in there. Their biggest problem is being unable to run consistently. Without a ground game the Steelers offense isn't going any where. At least with Batch they can trust him to "manage" the game right now. Ben has done a pretty good job of killing his confidence on his own already. It's time for a change before it's too late.</div> With Batch at QB, the Steelers have no chance of successfully defending their title and I don't believe that Roethlisberger is going to get better on the bench unless his heath is the real culprit and he needs to heal. If you put Batch in for now, when do you pull him and put Rothlisberger back in? I know the Steelers need to win games, but quick fixes usually just bring more problems. Let the kid play through this. The Patriots failed to defend their first World Championship, but won the next two. You don't chuck the big picture at the first sign of trouble.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>With Batch at QB, the Steelers have no chance of successfully defending their title and I don't believe that Roethlisberger is going to get better on the bench unless his heath is the real culprit and he needs to heal. If you put Batch in for now, when do you pull him and put Rothlisberger back in? I know the Steelers need to win games, but quick fixes usually just bring more problems. Let the kid play through this. The Patriots failed to defend their first World Championship, but won the next two. You don't chuck the big picture at the first sign of trouble.</div> Well it would be pretty easy to understand why his health physical or mental would be compromised. Whether Ben will admit to it or not it is the up to the coach to realize something just isn't right. You said yourself Ben's role is to "manage" the system. With Brady he was given a lot more leeway as to how to run the offense. The Pats didn't have a great running game to rely on. I think keeping Ben out there to lose games is only going to screw with his confidence more. Batch is the best option right now. Under BB he doesn't care what you've done in the past he only puts out the best players he thinks can win on that day. These guys are professionals & if they can't understand that being benched is for the betterment of the team than they're not playing for the right reasons to begin with.
Do the Steelers have a great running game? All that sound wonderful until they actually put Batch in and everyone finds out that the Steelers have more problems on offense than Ben Rothlisberger, then what do you do? Keep shuffling QBs? I still say the only reason for sitting Ben right now would be if he is struggling because of his health.
You would admit that the Steelers won the SB despite Ben's poor play that night? The point I'm making is he's not an MVP like Brady therefore he is replaceable. If this were any other position he'd already been sitting on the bench. But because it's QB he's automatically given this higher status when in reality he may just not be that good.
I've never said that Roethlisberger was an elite QB, but I think he's better than Charlie Batch. I do think that Roethlisberger can be one of the better QBs in this league, but he needs for Cowher to stick with him and let him play through this. This is a team needing to find it's offensive identity and that's not going to happen with Roethlisberger sitting on the bench. Putting Batch in now just delays the learning process that's going to have to take place. It's a quick fix that may not work, then what do you do? You've delayed the learning process, lost more games, destroyed the foundation that you were laying with Roethlisberger and left your team looking for a leader. That will win a lot of championships. It does nothing to address the fact that the Steelers running game is inconsistant and their WRs are inexperienced. But, let's not let that stop us from dumping all of the fault on the QB.
Here's what I don't get which was brought up elsewhere on the net? Why is it the "experts" are bashing the phins for not matching expectations this year but not Pittsburgh? Part of it IMO had to do w/ what a certain Georgian & I theorized many moons ago and all real estate agents and Geographers know that its ...location. location. LOCATION! 1 person had the nerve to say its because the Steelers are the defending champs. Isn't that all the more reason?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Here's what I don't get which was brought up elsewhere on the net? Why is it the "experts" are bashing the phins for not matching expectations this year but not Pittsburgh? Part of it IMO had to do w/ what a certain Georgian & I theorized many moons ago and all real estate agents and Geographers know that its ...location. location. LOCATION! 1 person had the nerve to say its because the Steelers are the defending champs. Isn't that all the more reason?</div> Lets remember that the Dolphins have played one more game than the Steelers and the only game they managed to win was 13-10 against the Titans. The Steelers have been quite dissapointing, but they have also lost close games to good teams.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Here's what I don't get which was brought up elsewhere on the net? Why is it the "experts" are bashing the phins for not matching expectations this year but not Pittsburgh? Part of it IMO had to do w/ what a certain Georgian & I theorized many moons ago and all real estate agents and Geographers know that its ...location. location. LOCATION! 1 person had the nerve to say its because the Steelers are the defending champs. Isn't that all the more reason?</div> Lets remember that the Dolphins have played one more game than the Steelers and the only game they managed to win was 13-10 against the Titans. The Steelers have been quite dissapointing, but they have also lost close games to good teams.</div> I don't care how you spin it... a loss is a loss is a loss whether by 40 or 4. Still doesn't answer my question. I said months ago; Pittsburgh also gets little love from the media along the Northeastern seaboard. Why should they be exempt from critique this year just because they won the big game @ the end of last season?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Here's what I don't get which was brought up elsewhere on the net? Why is it the "experts" are bashing the phins for not matching expectations this year but not Pittsburgh? Part of it IMO had to do w/ what a certain Georgian & I theorized many moons ago and all real estate agents and Geographers know that its ...location. location. LOCATION! 1 person had the nerve to say its because the Steelers are the defending champs. Isn't that all the more reason?</div> Lets remember that the Dolphins have played one more game than the Steelers and the only game they managed to win was 13-10 against the Titans. The Steelers have been quite dissapointing, but they have also lost close games to good teams.</div> I don't care how you spin it... a loss is a loss is a loss whether by 40 or 4. Still doesn't answer my question. I said months ago; Pittsburgh also gets little love from the media along the Northeastern seaboard. Why should they be exempt from critique this year just because they won the big game @ the end of last season?</div> Well, Pittsburgh was always known to have a tough schedule this year..the reason so many thought that Miami would do well is because of the schedule...even with that they are struggling so there is your deserved criticism. Not many people picked the Steelers to be much improved this year, almost nobody predicted they would make it back to the super bowl... The Dolphins were supposed to be the team on the rise with the cake schedule...you should be pissed at your team not the critics for not pointing out the Steelers problems.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'> Lets remember that the Dolphins have played one more game than the Steelers and the only game they managed to win was 13-10 against the Titans. The Steelers have been quite dissapointing, but they have also lost close games to good teams.</div> I don't care how you spin it... a loss is a loss is a loss whether by 40 or 4. Still doesn't answer my question. I said months ago; Pittsburgh also gets little love from the media along the Northeastern seaboard. Why should they be exempt from critique this year just because they won the big game @ the end of last season?</div> Well, Pittsburgh was always known to have a tough schedule this year..the reason so many thought that Miami would do well is because of the schedule...even with that they are struggling so there is your deserved criticism. Not many people picked the Steelers to be much improved this year, almost nobody predicted they would make it back to the super bowl... The Dolphins were supposed to be the team on the rise with the cake schedule...you should be pissed at your team not the critics for not pointing out the Steelers problems.</div> Are you ready? No! Are you ready? I am not pissed at anyone not Nick, Daunte, Joey, Houck, etc... because I can't control it. As for your "thougts" on the Steelers...spin on!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Steelers have been quite dissapointing, but they have also lost close games to good teams.</div> As have the Packers Bro, Rams=4-1 Division leaders, New Orleans=4-1 Division leaders. Every team the Packers have lost to this year are in the tops of the division, the only team that truly outmathced them for the entire game was Chicago, they were winning against philly until a major meltdown in the 2nd half, and Had both New Orleans and St.Louis on the ropes but lost both of these games by costly inexcusible fumbles.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FLORIDA PACKER)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (manofsteel)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Steelers have been quite dissapointing, but they have also lost close games to good teams.</div> As have the Packers Bro, Rams=4-1 Division leaders, New Orleans=4-1 Division leaders. Every team the Packers have lost to this year are in the tops of the division, the only team that truly outmathced them for the entire game was Chicago, they were winning against philly until a major meltdown in the 2nd half, and Had both New Orleans and St.Louis on the ropes but lost both of these games by costly inexcusible fumbles.</div> Hey, if you had rogers starting you would have won. He didnt make deals with other team to give them win for stats
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Hey, if you had rogers starting you would have won. He didnt make deals with other team to give them win for stats</div> I seriously doubt it, I just don't think Rodgers is going to be a NFL QB, I hope im totally wrong but Tedford QBs scare me. Rodgers may end up being Kyle Boller 2.0, which isn't hard to improve upon.
In my opinion Roethlisberger never had it in the first place. Its the steeleres system that made them succesful and now that teams are figuring it out, they are plunging down the black hole of super bowl follow ups. Its pretty simple what the steelers do. Run it on first Run it on second Small hitch routes on third Teams are now saying hey well we know that they never throw on first, jam the line. They dont have bettis anymore to get those extra couple of yards so make Parker go east and west. Parker gets between a 2-3 yard gain. They then throw it out to the sideline for a couple of yards or try to force t in which usually gets another 2 or 3 yards and there at a 3rd and 3-6 and everyone in the world knows what they are going to do. They run both WR's to hitch they tell the middle receiver to run a slant type route, then they delay Hayes or parker and hope that the defense still falls for the same play. You want to talk about VANILLA, thats the Steelers Offense. Ben never had it becuase he was never put in the situation to gain "it". How many bombs have you seen completed by roethlisberger or how mny 15-25 yard throws have you seen needled in there for their WR's. Not very many and teh reason is becuase of cowhers conservative nature. I am a guy who loves to run the ball but Cowher is the king of running the ball.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>Hey Bakes! I told you so!!!! </div> Oh shush! lol The Chiefs stink this year. Even I picked the Steelers to win this week.
