10 Teans Who Should Play Nellieball

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  1. Shapecity

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <span style="font-weight: bold">10. Detroit Pistons</span>

    1. Chauncey Billups
    2. Rodney Stuckey
    3. Rip Hamilton
    4. Tayshaun Prince
    5. Rasheed Wallace

    Why: Billups is actually more similar to Baron "the messiah" Davis than any other point guard in the league; Tayshaun's destiny is to become Shawn Marion, from the funny shot to the freakish arms to the bizarre sense of ambivalence; Rasheed running, manning the blocks, and gunning 3s needs to happen. And we all know that Rip Hamilton loves to run and hates defense. The best part of this is that there's a good chance that Flip Saunders could finally snap and but this lineup out in crunch-time of a crucial playoff game.

    <span style="font-weight: bold">9. Charlotte Bobcats</span>

    1. Brevin Knight
    2. Raymond Felton
    3. Matt Carroll
    4. Walter Herrmann
    5. Gerald Wallace

    Why: Although the backcourt can't shoot, we do have a true point and a Nellie two; Matt Carroll can shoot; Walter Herrmann is all that is good. But most of all, this needs to be done for Gerald Wallace. Look at Wallace, running the floor. Shutting down centers through sheer force of will. Blocking an Andrew Bynum hook shot and running the whole way down the floor to dunk on Lamar Odom. The world must know the force that is Gerald Wallace, NBA center.
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    8. Cleveland Cavaliers</span>

    1. Daniel Gibson
    2. Shannon Brown
    3. Sasha Pavlovic
    4. LeBron James
    5. Anderson Varejao

    Why: LeBron was not made to suffer in a slow-down offense. He was born to run. This lineup suffers because of the lack of a true point (Daniel Gibson was born to be a Nellieball two), but it has big men who can run the floor and shooters, and it would be vastly more enjoyable than the Cavaliers we have to watch now.
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    7. Minnesota Timberwolves</span>

    1. Sebastian Telfair
    2. Randy Foye
    3. Corey Brewer
    4. Marko Jaric
    5. Al Jefferson

    Why: Nellieball will redeem Sebastian Telfair. The kid is fast as they come, loves to pass, and loves to shoot. When he is freed, it shall be a glorious day. I believe very strongly. Randy Foye was born to be a Nellie two-guard. Marko Jaric is destined to be the white Boris Diaw. Corey Brewer and Al Jefferson are actually good at basketball.

    <span style="font-weight: bold">6. Memphis Grizzlies</span>

    1. Mike Conley, Jr.
    2. Kyle Lowry
    3. Mike Miller
    4. Rudy Gay
    5. Stromile Swift

    Why: Stromile Swift needs Nellieball. Two point guards at the same time. Mike Miller bombing at will. Rudy Gay running, shooting, dunking. Sounds good.

    <span style="font-weight: bold">5. Toronto Raptors:</span>

    1. T.J. Ford
    2. Jose Calderon
    3. Anthony Parker
    4. Chris Bosh
    5. Andrea Bargnani

    Why: While the Ford trade and the hiring of the architect of the Suns gave the public the impression that the Raptors were part of the Nellieball revolution, in reality they are far too conventional. They were 8th out of the 16 playoff teams in "pace" factor, and they rarely ever play Ford and Calderon or Bosh and Bargnani together. This would be one of the best Nellieball lineups in the league: 2 true point guards, 3 dead-eye shooters, and two big men who can run the floor.

    <span style="font-weight: bold">4. Chicago Bulls</span>

    1. Kirk Hinrich
    2. Ben Gordon
    3. Chris Duhon
    4. Tyrus Thomas
    5. Joakim Noah

    Why: Okay, so you may think that Luol Deng should be in there. He may be "good", but he's not a Nellieballer. He shoots mid-range jumpers, he can only play one position, he doesn't pass, and he's an extremely stable person. I'll be damned if I let him in my revolution. Ben Gordon and Tyrus Thomas were born to go Nellieball, as was Noah. Hinrich can shoot and run the point, and Duhon can shoot, pass, and play defense. And while the Bulls do play a lot of "small-ball", this should not be confused with Nellieball. Basically, the Bulls need to loosen up. They should get rid of Ben Wallace. They should embrace Ben Gordon and Tyrus Thomas. They should attack at all costs. And they should wear headbands.

    <span style="font-weight: bold">3. New York Knicks</span>

    1. Stephon Marbury
    2. Nate Robinson
    3. Steve Francis
    4. Jamal Crawford
    5. David Lee

    Why: That's not one, not two, not three, but FOUR shoot-first point guards on the floor at the same time. David Lee would be responsible for all rebounding and defense. I honestly would just want to see what would happen here. And who better to quarterback this unit than Marbury, who seems to have freed himself from all shackles? After this lineup, the Knicks should absolutely put out Balkman, Jeffries, Lee, Randolph, and Curry out at the same time. Ahh, the Knicks. So many possibilities.

    <span style="font-weight: bold">2. The Sonics that could have been</span>

    1. Luke Ridnour
    2. Ray Allen
    3. Rashard Lewis
    4. Kevin Durant
    5. Chris Wilcox

    Why: This is what could have happened if the Sonics management had any balls. 50 threes a game. 3 post-up threats. 4 shooters. A true point guard. A man who could one day evolve into the ultimate Nellieball player, the vastly upgraded version of what makes Stephen Jackson so wonderful. But no, it was time to rebuild. The world was not prepared for this lineup.

    <span style="font-weight: bold">1. Portland Trail Blazers</span>

    1. Sergio Rodriguez
    2. Steve Blake
    3. Jarrett Jack
    4. Brandon Roy
    5. Greg Oden</div></p>

    Source: Blog Truth in A Bullet Fedora</p>

    Great read. The Raptors lineup against the Warriors would be a very entertaining game.</p>
     
  2. cpawfan

    cpawfan Monsters do exist

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    I lost count of how many players he had on the wrong teams.
     
  3. Legacy

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    The Nets should be one. They have a good fast break offense.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Legacy)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Nets should be one. They have a good fast break offense.</div>

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    maybe you should rephrase that..."With Jason Kidd, they COULD and SHOULD have a fastbreak offense." too bad they don't.</p>

    and the players being on the wrong teams is quite annoying. </p>
     
  5. Run BJM

    Run BJM Heavy lies the crown. Staff Member Global Moderator

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Legacy)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Nets should be one. They have a good fast break offense.</div>

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    Agree with that; Kidd, Williams, VC, Jefferson, Krstic? Jefferson can rebound adequately for a PF, plus Kidd can rebound like a monster and Magloire is quite good off the bench.</p>

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    A lot of those teams listed in the article actually are switching to pseudo Nellieball. The Grizz with Ivaroni Phoenix probably are, they'll have a nice running team with Conlley/Lowry running the show, some good tweener 4s in Gay and Warrick and a solid offensive swingman who can shoot in Miller. The Bobcats are also apparently going up tempo, if it were full on Nellie ball it would be Felton, JR, Carroll/Morrison, Wallace, Okafor but more likely it will be a more traditional lineup just going at a faster pace. Toronto is also a bit of a fast break team, not to the extent of the Warriors, Suns, or Nuggets but they can and do get out and run a lot but since they are one of the few teams with a great PF who can score inside they don't need to run all the time. </p>
     
  6. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>I lost count of how many players he had on the wrong teams.</div>

    Which players on the wrong teams?</p>

    Also, I thought Denver and New Orleans are Nelly ball compatible. Any team that doesn't have a strong inside presence should probably be running and attacking with their guards. </p>
     
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    Brevin Knight has moved.</p>

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    Hawks would seem among the most obvious and Denver pushes the pace. Some of these are bad ideas....Jaric and Brewer as F's? Good grief. Griz park Gasol to get Lowry in the lineup????</p>

    Bobcats are obvious...yet why Carroll instead of J Rich? Morrison could thrive in a faster game. Obviously Okafor is in the lineup.</p>

    Sonics can put some nice quick guys on the floor....and Durant can be a great PF on a running team. Green can play transition,so can Collison while their young C's do run. However...they lack at SG which is a main part of a Nellie-or transition game</p>

    Pistons??? Nah</p>

    Bulls....yeah----clearly intend to up tempo based on drafting Thomas-Noah</p>
     
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    Yow we got a bunch of new smilies and still have some of our old favs.....I ALWAYS felt the need for a chainsaw massacre smiley....a great alternative to getting nasty.
     
  9. cpawfan

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (custodianrules2)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>I lost count of how many players he had on the wrong teams.</div>

    Which players on the wrong teams?</p>

    Also, I thought Denver and New Orleans are Nelly ball compatible. Any team that doesn't have a strong inside presence should probably be running and attacking with their guards. </p>

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    Ray Allen isn't on the Sonics
    Brevin Knight isn't on the Bobcats
    Steve Francis isn't on the Knicks
    Rashard Lewis isn't on the Sonics</p>

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  10. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (custodianrules2)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>I lost count of how many players he had on the wrong teams.</div>

    Which players on the wrong teams?</p>

    Also, I thought Denver and New Orleans are Nelly ball compatible. Any team that doesn't have a strong inside presence should probably be running and attacking with their guards. </p>

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    Ray Allen isn't on the Sonics
    Brevin Knight isn't on the Bobcats
    Steve Francis isn't on the Knicks
    Rashard Lewis isn't on the Sonics</p>

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    I guess that's two then since in the Sonics title it says "<span style="font-weight: bold">2. The Sonics that could have been</span>"</p>

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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (REREM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    Brevin Knight has moved.</p>

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    Hawks would seem among the most obvious and Denver pushes the pace. Some of these are bad ideas....Jaric and Brewer as F's? Good grief. Griz park Gasol to get Lowry in the lineup????</p>

    Bobcats are obvious...yet why Carroll instead of J Rich? Morrison could thrive in a faster game. Obviously Okafor is in the lineup.</p>

    Sonics can put some nice quick guys on the floor....and Durant can be a great PF on a running team. Green can play transition,so can Collison while their young C's do run. However...they lack at SG which is a main part of a Nellie-or transition game</p>

    Pistons??? Nah</p>

    Bulls....yeah----clearly intend to up tempo based on drafting Thomas-Noah </p>

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    I was about to say that the Bobcats idea is insane. Gerald Wallace at center? LOL. Okafor is an athletic guy, it's not like he couldn't run or score. Plus, not having Jrich in there is a travesty. He's probably going to be only one of two possible surefire 20 ppg scorers.

    The guy should just write about having an all guard starting line-up or something like we always joke about in Nelly ball.</p>
     
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    cpawfan Monsters do exist

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    [quote name='custodianrules2'][quote name='cpawfan'][quote name='custodianrules2'][quote name='cpawfan']I lost count of how many players he had on the wrong teams.[/QUOTE]

    Which players on the wrong teams?</p>

    Also, I thought Denver and New Orleans are Nelly ball compatible. Any team that doesn't have a strong inside presence should probably be running and attacking with their guards. </p>

    [/QUOTE]</p>

    Ray Allen isn't on the Sonics
    Brevin Knight isn't on the Bobcats
    Steve Francis isn't on the Knicks
    Rashard Lewis isn't on the Sonics</p>

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    </p>

    [/QUOTE]</p>

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    I guess that's two then since in the Sonics title it says "<span style="font-weight: bold">2. The Sonics that could have been</span>" </p>

    </p> [/QUOTE]

    Why would I waste my team reading the details when the player lists were so idiotic? </p>
     
  13. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    [quote name='cpawfan'][quote name='custodianrules2'][quote name='cpawfan'][quote name='custodianrules2'][quote name='cpawfan']I lost count of how many players he had on the wrong teams.[/QUOTE]

    Which players on the wrong teams?</p>

    Also, I thought Denver and New Orleans are Nelly ball compatible. Any team that doesn't have a strong inside presence should probably be running and attacking with their guards. </p>

    [/QUOTE]</p>

    Ray Allen isn't on the Sonics
    Brevin Knight isn't on the Bobcats
    Steve Francis isn't on the Knicks
    Rashard Lewis isn't on the Sonics</p>

    </p>

    </p>

    [/QUOTE]</p>

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    I guess that's two then since in the Sonics title it says "<span style="font-weight: bold">2. The Sonics that could have been</span>" </p>

    </p> [/QUOTE]

    Why would I waste my team reading the details when the player lists were so idiotic? </p>

    [/QUOTE]</p>

    Well details are important if you're trying to be accurate. The guy made a list of a fictional Sonic team knowing that Allen and Shard were no longer Sonics. As far as the other teams, he might have just forgotten or didn't know.</p>

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