</p> haha when I first saw it I thought it was an allusion to "The TO show" he mentions from time to time. Didn't associate it with the patriots until I read it somewhere else!</p>
Penalties are assessed because of cheating....all teams get penalties for cheating, whether its holding or excessive celebrations....
Excessive celebration is cheating? Really?</p> What direct unfair advantage did he gain by celebrating after a touchdown? Just because they both have negative connotation doesn't make the two similar.</p>
If it wasnt cheating, there wouldnt be a penalty for it....cheating has nothing to do with advantages or disadvantages, cheating is about breaking rules....
*yawn*, rather see Chad Johnson celebration.</p> </p> And why is this celebration thing taken so seriously, pretty soon players will be drafted, based on how they celebrate after a touchdown. JUST PLAY THE GAME!!!</p>
All words associated with cheating...</p> deceive, swindle, defraud, mislead, fool,dishonesty, unfaithful</p> None of those words have anything to do with a touchdown celebration. It's taunting, it's breaking the rules, but not cheating. If you cheat, you gain an unfair and unauthorized advantage over your opponent, and if taunting was cheating, the fans would be banned from the stadium for "cheating" and breaking the rules.</p> Loved the celebration. Without them, the NFL gets boring.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real Deal)</div><div class='quotemain'> All words associated with cheating...</p> deceive, swindle, defraud, mislead, fool,dishonesty, unfaithful</p> None of those words have anything to do with a touchdown celebration. It's taunting, it's breaking the rules, but not cheating. If you cheat, you gain an unfair and unauthorized advantage over your opponent, and if taunting was cheating, the fans would be banned from the stadium for "cheating" and breaking the rules. </p> Loved the celebration. Without them, the NFL gets boring. </p> </div></p> Exactly. But to beef even cheating on the first test on the school year means you've cheated for the whole year and your year is tainted. lol </p> GO PATS!!!</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'> Exactly. But to beef even cheating on the first test on the school year means you've cheated for the whole year and your year is tainted. lol </p></div> </p> Well, using your analogy, if you get caught cheating on a test, you fail that test, and the university would *expell* you from their school. So yes, your year *has* been tainted if you get caught cheating on a test. The Pats didn't even get an "L" for the Jets game, and no suspension for Belichik - EVEN THOUGH THEY CHEATED. Pretty damn lenient.</p> </p>
breaking the rules IS CHEATING....thats what penalties are for....if you hold, you are cheating....if you interfere with a reciever, you are cheating....if you spike the ball in the field of play, you are cheating....don't you guys get this? there is no gray area here, if you break the rules, you cheated....if you get caught, you get punished....sometimes the penalty is 5 yards, sometimes its 15 yards.....sometimes its the forfeiture of your 1st round draft pick
It's not the same though, you can't just use this umbrella definition and apply it to every "bad" thing that can happen in a game. To say that pass interference influences the game unfairly the same way doing a dance in the endzone after play has stopped is the same thing is a false analogy. </p> All forms of cheating are breaking the rules. Not all means of breaking the rules are cheating. (Behaviors that are illegal but do not gain an unfair advantage : taunting, for example) </p>
Beef has a point. Why is there a rule against taunting? Besides it being poor sportsmanship, there is the aspect of it causing a distraction or "getting inside the head" of the opponent. If you want to get inside your opponents head, then do it within the confines of the rules. This isn't the WWE. </p>
I agree with GMJigga. Excessive celebration is a penalty because it is taunting and it delays the game, not because it helps a team win a game. If the Bengals had danced and taunted after every single play yesterday and gotten away with it, would they have beaten the Browns? No. If they were pass interfering on every single play and got away with it, would they have beaten the Browns? Most likely, yes. Touchdown celebrations are penalized because it slows down the game and also taunts the other team. When guys started using props like the Joe Horn cell phone, that's when the league thought it was going too far and implemented the rule. I honestly wish the league wasn't so hard on people who do touchdown dances because I love watching it. Football is about entertainment and guys like Chad Johnson are exciting and fun to watch. The fact of the matter though is that dancing and celebrating doesn't give a team an unfair advantage over their opponent and to say that all penalties are cheating is just wrong.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish)</div><div class='quotemain'>I agree with GMJigga. Excessive celebration is a penalty because it is taunting and it delays the game, not because it helps a team win a game. If the Bengals had danced and taunted after every single play yesterday and gotten away with it, would they have beaten the Browns? No. If they were pass interfering on every single play and got away with it, would they have beaten the Browns? Most likely, yes. Touchdown celebrations are penalized because it slows down the game and also taunts the other team. When guys started using props like the Joe Horn cell phone, that's when the league thought it was going too far and implemented the rule. I honestly wish the league wasn't so hard on people who do touchdown dances because I love watching it. Football is about entertainment and guys like Chad Johnson are exciting and fun to watch. The fact of the matter though is that dancing and celebrating doesn't give a team an unfair advantage over their opponent and to say that all penalties are cheating is just wrong.</div> </p> The Bengals-Browns game is a bad example because the Bengals were playing catch up all afternoon. I think if you let one team taunt and don't let the other then that gives the other team a realadvantage. You'll either see the team getting taunted get riled up or break and football fans would lose either way. Games should be decided by skill and not because one team could take advantage of the other teams' emotion. Personally, I don't think Turd Orifice's celebration had a real affect on this game because the Cowboys clearly beat the Dolphins, but if it had been a close game that ended up being decided by an emotional personal foul, then I would be really upset. As for the celebrations themselves, they are really starting to feel contrived and idiotic at this point. I miss Billy "White Shoes" Johnson and his simple, but effective, knee wagging dance.</p> </p>
First of all, lol @ "Turd Orifice." </p> Second of all I understand your point. However my take is that whatever emotional hit the other team gets is pretty negligible. I mean do you guys honestly feel that the Dolphin's saw TO's dance and then completely lost all hope, gave up, and lost the will to keep playing? This is the NFL. If you're a grown man and get your feelings hurt by seeing a touchdown dance you probably don't be long in the league; or playing football for that matter.</p> I was playing football with my cousins once; they're around 10 years old. I scored a TD, and spiked the ball. Would you believe that they didn't cry, or went right back to playing? So, uh....Dolphins? (jk! jk!)</p> Agree to disagree </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'> First of all, lol @ "Turd Orifice." </p> Second of all I understand your point. However my take is that whatever emotional hit the other team gets is pretty negligible. I mean do you guys honestly feel that the Dolphin's saw TO's dance and then completely lost all hope, gave up, and lost the will to keep playing? This is the NFL. If you're a grown man and get your feelings hurt by seeing a touchdown dance you probably don't be long in the league; or playing football for that matter.</p> I was playing football with my cousins once; they're around 10 years old. I scored a TD, and spiked the ball. Would you believe that they didn't cry, or went right back to playing? So, uh....Dolphins? (jk! jk!)</p> Agree to disagree </p> </div> </p> No, I don't think that the Dolphins or any other professional team would lose all hope over one endzone dance, but, in a close game, I could see a personal foul resulting in frustration and the change in field position changing the outcome of the game. Personally, I'd rather see games decided by skill and actual football stategy. I don't really see any teams being too riled up or broken down because there are rules against taunting which I think are extremely important especially in the lower levels of football. I guess I worry more about the school level game and those are kids who are watching the NFL. Still, ask Brock Marion or LaDainian Tomlinson how they feel about taunting. Of course, it can backfire. Last year, the Miami Hurricanes stomped on the Cardinal logo when they came to Louisville and the Cardinals spent the next 60 minutes stomping a mudhole in their backsides.</p> </p>
Honestly, I think that is one of the funniest TD celebrations of all time. I just burst out laughing when I saw that...
