[quote name='peg182']</p> [quote name='ghoti']</p> [quote name='Dumpy']</p> [quote name='NetIncome']</p> Darrell Armstrong will be free in a week. I think Ilic will be bought out, freeing up a space. The question is whether the Nets will be willing to do for a backup PG like Armstrong what they have not been willing to do for Robert Hite, Malik Allen or Allan Houston: that is, give him a guaranteed deal.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> Damon Stoudamire may be free also. Which would you rather have?</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> Armstrong. by a mile.</p> Keep Stoudamire the hell away from Marcus Williams.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> </p> Definitely agree. Stoudamire is exactly the type of player we don't want Marcus becoming.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> </p> LOL, if anything Marcus was a Damon clone last year</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Split stats for Marcus as a rookie</p> <h3>Month</h3> <pre>+------------------------------------------------------------------+------------+------------------+ | Total | Shooting | Per Game | +------------------------------------------------------------------+------------+------------------+ Split | G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA TRB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS| FG% 3P% FT%| MP PTS TRB AST|+---------+---+----+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+----+ November | 15 281 47 114 6 34 21 23 34 43 2 1 27 24 121| 41 18 91| 19 8.1 2.3 2.9| December | 15 227 32 91 11 33 1 1 19 44 10 0 21 16 76| 35 33 100| 15 5.1 1.3 2.9| January | 13 206 38 78 11 25 17 21 29 40 9 0 22 10 104| 49 44 81| 16 8.0 2.2 3.1| February | 12 250 48 109 9 30 22 26 36 45 5 1 30 12 127| 44 30 85| 21 10.6 3.0 3.8| March | 15 220 27 85 3 21 11 13 24 57 2 0 23 26 68| 32 14 85| 15 4.5 1.6 3.8| April | 9 128 16 49 6 20 0 1 21 31 1 0 19 8 38| 33 30 0| 14 4.2 2.3 3.4|+---------+---+----+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+----+</pre> </div></p> </p> You know what I just realized? Of course Marcus' numbers and play trailed off at the end of the year. He was a rookie with conditioning problems. He'd never played an 82+ game season before, and even some better conditioned college players have trouble with that. Marcus was in really BAD shape to start the year. So of course he trailed off.</p> Considering that he's showed up in camp in great shape, and that he's got a year of point guard experience (and Jason Kidd's mentoring) under his belt, it's not that crazy to expect a huge leap from him. He's really starting to take seriously what it means to be an NBA point guard. That's been the hardest part for more than a few players in the past.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> The result of fantasy drafts by fans have no bearing on anyone's skills.</p> I mean really.</p> The kid is 21 years old. Last year, he was the youngest Net in the last 25 years. (By the way, the second youngest Net in the last 25 years is Sean Williams who just turned 21 last week.) Physically, as well as emotionally, he was immature. But one positive sign in his growth is that he admitted it. He said he was surprised at the toll 100 games had taken on him and he said that his confidence was shot. No false bravado.</p> I don't know what Jason Kidd was like emotionally his rookie year when he was 21 and thrown into a starting job for a mediocre team. I do know that Williams averaged more points per 48 minutes (19.7)than Kidd (16.6)and almost as many assists (10.9 to 9.5) per 48 in their rookie years. Williams wasn't even that far behindyoung Kidd in rebounding. Kidd averaged 7.7 per 48, Williams 6.0. Moreover, I know that in terms of turnovers, Williams averaged 5.1 per 48 minutes, Kidd 4.5, not much of a difference. I also know their shooting percentages were very equivalent...both shot less than40% overall and less than 30% from beyond the arc. Williams shot 39.5% overall, Kidd 38.5%. Williams shot 28.2% from beyond the arc, Kidd 27.2%</p> Kidd, like Deron Williams anda LOT of other point guards, made great strides his second year. You guys expected too much from Williams last year. Prepare to be surprised.</p> </div></p> </p> Ly_yng-that's pretty much what NI was sayin. i knew i read something similar to what you were saying in this thread.</p> as you can see, even marcus agrees with you, Ly_yng. Maybe this year he'll be more conditioned and better off, tho.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> The result of fantasy drafts by fans have no bearing on anyone's skills.</p> I mean really.</p> The kid is 21 years old. Last year, he was the youngest Net in the last 25 years. (By the way, the second youngest Net in the last 25 years is Sean Williams who just turned 21 last week.) Physically, as well as emotionally, he was immature. But one positive sign in his growth is that he admitted it. He said he was surprised at the toll 100 games had taken on him and he said that his confidence was shot. No false bravado.</p> I don't know what Jason Kidd was like emotionally his rookie year when he was 21 and thrown into a starting job for a mediocre team. I do know that Williams averaged more points per 48 minutes (19.7)than Kidd (16.6)and almost as many assists (10.9 to 9.5) per 48 in their rookie years. Williams wasn't even that far behindyoung Kidd in rebounding. Kidd averaged 7.7 per 48, Williams 6.0. Moreover, I know that in terms of turnovers, Williams averaged 5.1 per 48 minutes, Kidd 4.5, not much of a difference. I also know their shooting percentages were very equivalent...both shot less than40% overall and less than 30% from beyond the arc. Williams shot 39.5% overall, Kidd 38.5%. Williams shot 28.2% from beyond the arc, Kidd 27.2%</p> Kidd, like Deron Williams anda LOT of other point guards, made great strides his second year. You guys expected too much from Williams last year. Prepare to be surprised.</p> </div></p> </p> Luke-that's pretty much what NI was sayin. i knew i read something similar to what you were saying in this thread.</p> as you can see, even marcus agrees with you, Luke. Maybe this year he'll be more conditioned and better off, tho.</p> </div></p> Me? All I said was cross your fingers for Jason Hart. I'll have no problem with Marcus once he starts trying on d and returns RJ's chest bumps. I don't know what that smiley means but I like it.</p> </p>
Just one man's opinion. What I've seen of Marcus Williams, he stands a good chance to be an average starter on an average team or a decent backup on a better team. I don't get the idea of him being groomed to replace Kidd.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Me? All I said was cross your fingers for Jason Hart. I'll have no problem with Marcus once he starts trying on d and returns RJ's chest bumps. I don't know what that smiley means but I like it.</p> </div></p> </p> Sorry, wrong poster (both names start with L, haha. smooth, I know).</p> I still wanna know why Marcus didn't accept RJ's chest bump. If RJ hit on Marcus, or something, I don't blame him.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Me? All I said was cross your fingers for Jason Hart. I'll have no problem with Marcus once he starts trying on d and returns RJ's chest bumps. I don't know what that smiley means but I like it.</p> </div></p> </p> Sorry, wrong poster (both names start with L, haha. smooth, I know).</p> I still wanna know why Marcus didn't accept RJ's chest bump. If RJ hit on Marcus, or something, I don't blame him.</p> </div></p> </p> Im confused. You talking about me or lukewarm now? </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Marcus thought RJ is a gay or what?</p> </div></p> We all do.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Me? All I said was cross your fingers for Jason Hart. I'll have no problem with Marcus once he starts trying on d and returns RJ's chest bumps. I don't know what that smiley means but I like it.</p> </div></p> </p> Sorry, wrong poster (both names start with L, haha. smooth, I know).</p> I still wanna know why Marcus didn't accept RJ's chest bump. If RJ hit on Marcus, or something, I don't blame him.</p> </div></p> </p> Im confused. You talking about me or lukewarm now? </p> </div></p> </p> No, i was talking about Ly_yng's post with Marcus's stats, and accidently used Luke's name....i just get names mixed up easily, and both their usernames start with an "L".</p>
