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  1. JCB

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'>Excuse me, Affalo and Stuckey are guards so we can expect from them? WOW, what a logic, then Marcus Williams is a guard, and Boone is a forward,

    but Boone performed much better in the 2nd half season. WOW, It seems that many people say the guards need the experience more than other positions.</p>

    WOW, you are soooo different. LOL</p>

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    Yes, we can expect more from Stuckey (Afflalo, not so much, IMO) than from Sean because they are guards. It's far much easier for a guard to make an impact in his rookie season than a big man. Stuckey is also MUCH more NBA-ready than Williams. Sean has virtually no offense outside of 5 feet. His D right now is good, but still raw. He needs to make smarter decisions based on what I saw in preseason. Stuckey's mid-range jumper and ball handling are both NBA-ready. He will make much more of an impact than Williams in their rookie seasons.</p>

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    jarkid Sean The Answer to Nets Big Men

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    Sure, Sean Williams is still raw now, how about him after training camp, preseason games, first month in the regular season? second month in the regular season?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'>Sure, Sean Williams is still raw now, how about him after training camp, preseason games, first month in the regular season? second month in the regular season?</div></p>

    Training Camp and preseason don't mean that much. He needs real game experience. Which he really won't get this year, mainly because he won't be playing any significant time. His potential is very high, but it takes more than a few months to develop it. You're expecting way to much from him.
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'>I am not trying to insult you, if you think so. But in some way, I think you are insulting me, too.Second Round exit? </p>

    Did I say it's the reason so I said they underestimate? Or Did you even ask me the reasons?</div></p>

    I'm not insulting you. I complimented you on your English, because it really is quite good. That sentence just didn't make any sense, so I pointed it out to you.</p>

    Well then, what is the reason you believe the writers are underestimating the Nets?</p>

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    jarkid Sean The Answer to Nets Big Men

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'>Excuse me, Affalo and Stuckey are guards so we can expect from them? WOW, what a logic, then Marcus Williams is a guard, and Boone is a forward,

    but Boone performed much better in the 2nd half season. WOW, It seems that many people say the guards need the experience more than other positions.</p>

    WOW, you are soooo different. LOL</p>

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    Yes, we can expect more from Stuckey (Afflalo, not so much, IMO) than from Sean because they are guards.  It's far much easier for a guard to make an impact in his rookie season than a big man. Stuckey is also MUCH more NBA-ready than Williams.  Sean has virtually no offense outside of 5 feet.  His D right now is good, but still raw.  He needs to make smarter decisions based on what I saw in preseason. Stuckey's mid-range jumper and ball handling are both NBA-ready. He will make much more of an impact than Williams in their rookie seasons.</p>

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    You are making nonsense, First of All, you say Sean is a rookie, after I said about Pistons, what the excuses else?</p>

    you say big men is different from the guards. Haha..LOL</p>

    at least Most people say the guards need more experience, they are so different to you.</p>

    So you mean Stuckey and Affalo are more experienced than Sean, so they are the reasons they could help PISTONS in their rookie seasons?</p>

    You are the king of Logic.</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mynetsforlife)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    Jarkid, I think you, JCB, and I are arguing the same point, your just putting on an optimistic filter, while JCB and I are using a pesimistic one.</p>

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    Realistic. I've spent far too many summers being overly-optimistic.</p>

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    Perhaps, to late for me to differentiate.
     
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    jarkid Sean The Answer to Nets Big Men

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'>I am not trying to insult you, if you think so. But in some way, I think you are insulting me, too.Second Round exit? </p>

    Did I say it's the reason so I said they underestimate? Or Did you even ask me the reasons?</div></p>

    I'm not insulting you.  I complimented you on your English, because it really is quite good.  That sentence just didn't make any sense, so I pointed it out to you. </p>

    Well then, what is the reason you believe the writers are underestimating the Nets? </p>

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    You didn't insult me, then I didn't insult you, too.  If you don't understand what I mean, you can ask me for details, but please stop refering to my English.</p>

    The reasons? It's really simple, many writers ignores the signing of Magloire, Allen, and Sean Williams.</p>

    There is a writer surprises me the most, he made the conclusion that the difference from last season for the Nets is that </p>

    Offseason Nets = Last Season Nets without Mikki Moore but with Krstic , that means he ignores all the signing of the summer.</p>

    Yeah, maybe the signing are all sucking, but how could you regard that as there is nothing happening in the offseason?</p>

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    Sean Williams was a draft pick. Nothing more, nothing less.</p>

    Magloire was a nice signing, and IIRC, one of the links Kidd showed did talk about mags. </p>
     
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    jarkid Sean The Answer to Nets Big Men

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    Affalo, Stuckey was a draft pick, nothing else, nothing more.</p>
     
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    I didn't read the whole article, I'm guessing you're referring to the Pistons getting too much love?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'>You are making nonsense, First of All, you say Sean is a rookie, after I said about Pistons, what the excuses else?</div></p>

    I'm not making nonsense. Your just don't understand what I'm saying. </p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>you say big men is different from the guards. Haha..LOL</p>

    at least Most people say the guards need more experience, they are so different to you.</div></p>

    Big men ARE different than guards. Try putting a rookie big as raw as Sean up against Duncan, Garnett, Shaq. Try putting him up against Curry, Al Jefferson, even. He won't stand a chance, on either side of the floor. Then take a look at a guard like Stuckey. He might not play the best D against the upper-tier guards he will face, but on offense, he will at least contribue some. His mid range jumper is NBA-ready. His ball handling skills are suitable, and he drives the lane effectively. He's much more ready to contribute in his rookie campaign. </p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>So you mean Stuckey and Affalo are more experienced than Sean, so they are the reasons they could help PISTONS in their rookie seasons?</p>

    You are the king of Logic.</div></p>

    They're not more experienced than Sean. They're just more NBA-ready. Some of Stuckey's skills WILL be effective in his rookie year. NONE of Sean's skills, aside from the occasional blocked shot, are ready for the NBA. THAT is why Stuckey will help the Pistons far more than Williams will help us. </p>

    Yes, I am the king of logic. You just don't understand what I'm trying to say. </p>

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    jarkid Sean The Answer to Nets Big Men

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    If Pistons Rookies could be the reasons for high-ranking, why not Sean Williams? Because he is raw?</p>

    No, they are all rookies.</p>
     
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    That's going in my sig.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    If Pistons Rookies could be the reasons for high-ranking, why not Sean Williams? Because he is raw?</p>

    No, they are all rookies.</p>

    </div></p>That's precisely why. Sean has virtually no NBA-ready talent. Stuckey does.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mynetsforlife)</div><div class='quotemain'>That's going in my sig.</div></p>

    Meh, my head hurts now. Is it really almost midnight? Jeez.</p>

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    jarkid Sean The Answer to Nets Big Men

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    [quote name='JCB']

    [quote name='jarkid']You are making nonsense, First of All, you say Sean is a rookie, after I said about Pistons, what the excuses else? [/QUOTE]</p>

    I'm not making nonsense. Your just don't understand what I'm saying. </p>

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    Big men ARE different than guards. Try putting a rookie big as raw as Sean up against Duncan, Garnett, Shaq. Try putting him up against Curry, Al Jefferson, even. He won't stand a chance, on either side of the floor. Then take a look at a guard like Stuckey. He might not play the best D against the upper-tier guards he will face, but on offense, he will at least contribue some. His mid range jumper is NBA-ready. His ball handling skills are suitable, and he drives the lane effectively. He's much more ready to contribute in his rookie campaign. </p>

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    They're not more experienced than Sean. They just more NBA-ready. Some of the skills WILL be effective their rookie years. NONE of Sean's skills, aside from the occasional blocked shot, are ready for the NBA. THAT is why Stuckey will help the Pistons far more than Williams will help us. </p>

    Yes, I am the king of logic. You just don't understand what I'm trying to say. </p>

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    1)I do understand what you mean, but you are just still making nonsense.</p>

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    2) I am really happy you are not the coach. Coach won't play the rookie to guard the elite big men in the NBA all day long, if Sean Williams is a backup big man,</p>

    then he will play with the backup Big man. He can learn things from many sides. If Boone could guard Yao Ming for a while and did good, why can't</p>

    Sean Williams?</p>

    What could Sean Williams do? He could guard the guys that driving to the paint, and block the shots to LBJ, Wade, or What.</p>

    He can still be used in right way, not really as simple as in the internet.</p>

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    3) NBA ready? They even don't play any NBA games. Rookie is Rookie, and notthetop 5 draft rookies.</p>
     
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    [quote name='jarkid'][quote name='JCB']

    [quote name='jarkid']You are making nonsense, First of All, you say Sean is a rookie, after I said about Pistons, what the excuses else? [/QUOTE]</p>

    I'm not making nonsense. Your just don't understand what I'm saying. </p>

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    Big men ARE different than guards. Try putting a rookie big as raw as Sean up against Duncan, Garnett, Shaq. Try putting him up against Curry, Al Jefferson, even. He won't stand a chance, on either side of the floor. Then take a look at a guard like Stuckey. He might not play the best D against the upper-tier guards he will face, but on offense, he will at least contribue some. His mid range jumper is NBA-ready. His ball handling skills are suitable, and he drives the lane effectively. He's much more ready to contribute in his rookie campaign. </p>

    </p>

    They're not more experienced than Sean. They just more NBA-ready. Some of the skills WILL be effective their rookie years. NONE of Sean's skills, aside from the occasional blocked shot, are ready for the NBA. THAT is why Stuckey will help the Pistons far more than Williams will help us. </p>

    Yes, I am the king of logic. You just don't understand what I'm trying to say. </p>

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    1)I do understand what you mean, but you are just still making nonsense.</p>

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    2) I am really happy you are not the coach. Coach won't play the rookie to guard the elite big men in the NBA all day long, if Sean Williams is a backup big man,</p>

    then he will play with the backup Big man. He can learn things from many sides. If Boone could guard Yao Ming for a while and did good, why can't</p>

    Sean Williams?</p>

    What could Sean Williams do? He could guard the guys that driving to the paint, and block the shots to LBJ, Wade, or What.</p>

    He can still be used in right way, not really as simple as in the internet.</p>

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    3) NBA ready? They even don't play any NBA games. Rookie is Rookie, and not the top 5 draft rookies.</p>

    [/QUOTE]</p>

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    Because they are different players.</p>

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    jarkid Sean The Answer to Nets Big Men

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    If Pistons Rookies could be the reasons for high-ranking, why not Sean Williams? Because he is raw?</p>

    No, they are all rookies.</p>

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    That's precisely why. Sean has virtually no NBA-ready talent. Stuckey does. </div> </p>

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    Hi, King of Logic.</p>

    No, rookies is rookies.</p>
     
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    jarkid Sean The Answer to Nets Big Men

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    </p>difference players? Yes, a player coming off shoulder surgery, missing the training camp,and being called a bust before his high performance.
     

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