I just saw the trailer for a new movie called We Are Marshall and I was wondering if this was a common story told to people who play football because I haven't heard about it until now.... The trailer is at wearemarshall-themovie.warnerbros.com
It is a well known story, but unfortunately is one that has been lost over time. Very similar to the Texas Western story found in Glory Road. That's one good thing about movies. They bring great sports stories back to life, back into the memory of those who had forgotten and places the story into the mind of those who never knew.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cubuffsman78)</div><div class='quotemain'>It is a well known story, but unfortunately is one that has been lost over time. Very similar to the Texas Western story found in Glory Road. That's one good thing about movies. They bring great sports stories back to life, back into the memory of those who had forgotten and places the story into the mind of those who never knew.</div> Your seeing a lot of sports movies based off of true stories now. Glory Road, Coach Carter, Gridiron Gang, We are Marshall, and Friday Night Lights. All with in the last few years. I think it's a great thing and I personally love watching sports movies.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cubuffsman78)</div><div class='quotemain'>Very similar to the Texas Western story found in Glory Road.</div> Not really. Josh Lucas & McConaughey slightly resembling each other is about as close its gets. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Your seeing a lot of sports movies based off of true stories now. Glory Road, Coach Carter, Gridiron Gang, We are Marshall, and Friday Night Lights. All with in the last few years. I think it's a great thing and I personally love watching sports movies.</div> I don't care how inspirational We are Marshall may be, I have a hard time with movies based on real life tragedies i.e Titanic. I plan on seeing the New James Bond, Deja Vu, & possibly the Fountain but won't see W A M. Movies IMO s/b entertaining and an escape. Okay. I'm off my soapbox.
For the Record, I did see Glory Road and enjoyed it. Only because, I have seen Don Haskins coach live in person, knew the story, and was curious to see how Real Life was adapted. The Marshall plane recently developed engine trouble on the way back from ECU almost 36 yrs to the day after the tragedy that inspired the movie.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cubuffsman78)</div><div class='quotemain'>Very similar to the Texas Western story found in Glory Road.</div> Not really. Josh Lucas & McConaughey slightly resembling each other is about as close its gets. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Your seeing a lot of sports movies based off of true stories now. Glory Road, Coach Carter, Gridiron Gang, We are Marshall, and Friday Night Lights. All with in the last few years. I think it's a great thing and I personally love watching sports movies.</div> I don't care how inspirational We are Marshall may be, I have a hard time with movies based on real life tragedies i.e Titanic. I plan on seeing the New James Bond, Deja Vu, & possibly the Fountain but won't see W A M. Movies IMO s/b entertaining and an escape. Okay. I'm off my soapbox.</div> I wasn't saying that it's the same type of movie. I'm saying that it's a story that was sadly forgotten by many and unknown by many more. It brought the story back into the consciousness of this country. That's what Glory Road has in common with We Are Marshall. Whether the movies are very accurate with the actual story or not...it still brings out the knowledge that hey, this actually happened. The younger generations especially would have no clue about the Glory Road or Marshall stories if it wasn't for the movies. I find that sad, but at least the movies give a way of learning something about the stories.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cubuffsman78)</div><div class='quotemain'>I wasn't saying that it's the same type of movie. I'm saying that it's a story that was sadly forgotten by many and unknown by many more. It brought the story back into the consciousness of this country. That's what Glory Road has in common with We Are Marshall. Whether the movies are very accurate with the actual story or not...it still brings out the knowledge that hey, this actually happened. The younger generations especially would have no clue about the Glory Road or Marshall stories if it wasn't for the movies. I find that sad, but at least the movies give a way of learning something about the stories.</div> I agree that it is sad that not many people know of some of the great stories of not only sports, etc... However (back on my soap box), I hope that people don't go to movies as a replacement for sleeping through History when they were in school. Letting someone else's subjective interpretation shape your knowledge w/o researching it yourself is not wise.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cubuffsman78)</div><div class='quotemain'>I wasn't saying that it's the same type of movie. I'm saying that it's a story that was sadly forgotten by many and unknown by many more. It brought the story back into the consciousness of this country. That's what Glory Road has in common with We Are Marshall. Whether the movies are very accurate with the actual story or not...it still brings out the knowledge that hey, this actually happened. The younger generations especially would have no clue about the Glory Road or Marshall stories if it wasn't for the movies. I find that sad, but at least the movies give a way of learning something about the stories.</div> I agree that it is sad that not many people know of some of the great stories of not only sports, etc... However (back on my soap box), I hope that people don't go to movies as a replacement for sleeping through History when they were in school. Letting someone else's subjective interpretation shape your knowledge w/o researching it yourself is not wise.</div> Ok, but when were these stories ever taught in a history class? They certainly weren't taught in my history class. Even when talking about civil rights in history, most teachers and history books leave out the impact that sports had on the movement.
The problem with some of these stories is that they DIDN'T actually happen the way they are portrayed in the movies. "Glory Road" is revisionist history. When "Glory Road" came out, a gentleman who was covering the Kentucky Wildcats at the time came forward and said that race wasn't the issue that the movie has made it out to be. It didn't become an issue until an SI reporter made it one in a 1990 article. He said that when he spoke with Rupp the following morning that Rupp mentioned how he underestimated their quickness, but never mentioned race. He also questioned why there was no controversy over UK naming their basketball court, Rupp Arena. He also made the point that the worst thing that happen to UK was that they beat Duke to go to the Championship Game, then Duke could have been made out to be the big racist villian that needed to be put down. Granted, I'm a Kentucky Wildcat basketball fan and you may accuse me of being bias, but, before you do, be honest and say you wouldn't be offended if someone tried to rewrite history to make your sports heroes out to be racists unfairly. Personally, I think it's ironic that Rupp would be subjected to this because I'm sure that the fact the he was German helped perpetuate this myth. I'll try to see if I can find a link to the article later. I'm late for an appointment now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cubuffsman78)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>I agree that it is sad that not many people know of some of the great stories of not only sports, etc... However (back on my soap box), I hope that people don't go to movies as a replacement for sleeping through History when they were in school. Letting someone else's subjective interpretation shape your knowledge w/o researching it yourself is not wise.</div> Ok, but when were these stories ever taught in a history class? They certainly weren't taught in my history class. Even when talking about civil rights in history, most teachers and history books leave out the impact that sports had on the movement.</div> My friend. You are taking me abit to literal. I meant that entertainment should not be mistaken for education. I think we can agree that Sports has an impact on society. More than some of these elitist intellectuals (I hope I don't sound like O'Reilly) would like us to believe. Dale is right; It is revionism but that is an issue I did not want to bring or even really discuss.
I couldn't find the article that I had in mind, but it was over a year ago. Here is a good article that helps point out some of the problems with "Glory Road." http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sport...icle_937537.php
Ah! I just found the article that I read and it's even better than the one I linked to above. http://www.leovia.com/?q=node/8
I didnt realize how much I had been missing with the football stories in general...this is a good reason to like movies...thanks for the messages...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>Ah! I just found the article that I read and it's even better than the one I linked to above. http://www.leovia.com/?q=node/8</div> Sounds like the SEC and ACC were both racist conferences until the late 60's. Rupp likely did get a bad rap because he was "The Man" is a racist conference. Pro football of the early 60's and even the 1950's look like racial trailblazers compared to the SEC and the ACC. It had to be tough for Pro leagues to have many black stars when so many colleges had none on their teams for so long.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zackman)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>Ah! I just found the article that I read and it's even better than the one I linked to above. http://www.leovia.com/?q=node/8</div> Sounds like the SEC and ACC were both racist conferences until the late 60's. Rupp likely did get a bad rap because he was "The Man" is a racist conference. Pro football of the early 60's and even the 1950's look like racial trailblazers compared to the SEC and the ACC. It had to be tough for Pro leagues to have many black stars when so many colleges had none on their teams for so long.</div> Wow, this thread got resurrected out of nowhere. Rupp was "the Man" in a racist conference? Did you even bother to read the article for which I provided the link? While, I would agree that being the head coach of the Kentucky Wildcats basketball program is THE job to have in all of college sports that position isn't the most powerful at the school, let alone in the conference. If the SEC has an unwritten policy about not recruiting black players, Rupp had better have some support, particularly from higher up at UK, in order to do it and keep his job. If you want a better example of "the Man" in a racist league, try Redskins' owner, George Preston Marshall, who ran black athletes out of the NFL and fought tooth and nail to keep them out. You can thank the AFL for not treating black athletes as inferior people and helping to truly integrate the league with the merger in 1970. Here's a Wikipedia article that says that the AFL had 17% more black athletes on their teams, than the NFL, during the early 60's. It also points out that the 69 Chiefs had twice as many black athletes than did the 69 Vikings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_players...sional_football
Lamar Hunt was a trailblazer in that respect. He had the predominately black colleges recruited heavily with not much competition for awhile. Pretty shrewd.
