So I decided to come up with my own Playoff System just for fun and I?m bored. :thumbsup: Here is what I think should go. No Pre Season Polls. After Week 6 the first polls are released. After Week 8 the first BCS Standings are released. 12 Team Playoffs Top 4 Rated BCS Teams get a bye. You do not have to be a Conference Champion to receive a Bye. Big East, Big Ten, Pac-10, SEC, ACC, and Big 12 Champions get an automatic bid to the Playoffs. These are the ONLY TEAMS THAT GET AN AUTOMATIC BID 6 At Large playoff teams are determine from their final order in the BCS. Doesn?t matter what conference your in or if you?re an independent or not. You hear that all you non major confernence teams. Even you ND. So for this year it?d look like this? #1 Ohio State (Big Ten Champ) - Bye #8 Boise State (At Large) vs. #9 Auburn (At Large) #4 LSU (At Large) - Bye #5 USC (Pac -10 Champ) vs. #12 Wake Forest (ACC Champ) #3 Michigan (At Large) - Bye #6 Louisville (Big East Champ) vs. #11 Notre Dame (At Large) #7 Wisconsin (At Large) vs. #10 Oklahoma (Big 12 Champ) #2 Florida (SEC Champ) - Bye Wake Forest gets in because they won the ACC Title. They are the only team outside of the top 12 of the Final BCS Standings to get in but they get an automatic bid because of the ACC Conference Title. So there is still controversy for those who like it that way.. Arkansas gets snubbed.. 1st round games start December 16th Gator Bowl, Outback Bowl, Alamo Bowl, and Peach Bowl. 2nd round games start December 23rd Sugar Bowl, Capital One Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, and Cotton Bowl. Semis Start December 30th Rose Bowl and Orange Bowl National Title January 13th Location varies ever year. At most it's 4 extra games. If the schools are so concerned over their players health then they can take away one non conference game for every team. So then at most 3 more games and 2 more games if you get the bye. Don't say the games don't mean anything either. Arkansas gets snubbed and they just played in the SEC Title so every game continues to count and your fighting for a 1st round bye. Would really be nice to see some of those games. Wisconsin vs. OU and Louisville vs. ND.. I don't see how this can't be better for the game. Obviously this is just my speculation on what a playoff system would look like. You can do an 8 Team Playoff as well or just take the top 4 BCS Teams or even top 6 BCS Teams and have the top 2 get a bye. In my opinion though a formula like this would create more drama and you'd have no problem crowning an Undisputed Champion.
Too many teams IMO. Further, it takes the Bowl Experience away from alot of deserving teams. Take the Top 4 like 2004 and this year. For example; #4 USC vs #1 Ohio St in the Sugar, #3 Michigan vs #2 Florida. or... take the conf champs from the ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big 12, PAC 10, Big East/MWC (whoever has the highest BCS Rating), & 1 at large.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Too many teams IMO. Further, it takes the Bowl Experience away from alot of deserving teams. Take the Top 4 like 2004 and this year. For example; #4 USC vs #1 Ohio St in the Sugar, #3 Michigan vs #2 Florida. or... take the conf champs from the ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big 12, PAC 10, Big East/MWC (whoever has the highest BCS Rating), & 1 at large.</div> I don't like the conference champs idea especially considering their are some worthy teams like LSU or Michigan that would deserve to be in it. Personally I think going with the top 8. Whether you win the conference or not is good enough. Anything but the current system. I will say I disagree with it taking away from deserving teams for Bowl games. Winning 6 games is not that hard. This year I really don't think Miami, Florida State deserve Bowl games. I think this makes all Bowl games more meaningful. 7 or 8 wins will get you in. 6 won't and to me that works better.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>I don't like the conference champs idea especially considering their are some worthy teams like LSU or Michigan that would deserve to be in it.</div> Or Wisconsin? Personally I think going with the top 8. Whether you win the conference or not is good enough. Anything but the current system. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>I will say I disagree with it taking away from deserving teams for Bowl games. Winning 6 games is not that hard. This year I really don't think Miami, Florida State deserve Bowl games.</div> IMiami & FSU getting in is a joke... I started a thread about that. The Big 12 having 8 tie-ins is also a piece of crap. 4 teams from that conference deserve bids this year IMO. What I meant by deserving teams is a team from a mid major like Central Michigan, Navy, or a Cinderella story like Rice getting some national exposure.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>What I meant by deserving teams is a team from a mid major like Central Michigan, Navy, or a Cinderella story like Rice getting some national exposure.</div> I don't think it would effect teams like that as much especially if you take out the 6 win teams that get in. Majority if not all of them are teams from major conferences like the Big 12 and ACC. Rarely does a 6 win mid major get in. I'm greedy though. I want the big playoff system so I can see more games. I like college football and I think it needs something like this and people will finallly learn the tradition and the games itself are close to that of the NFL. I also found it ironic that Tressel said that he wouldn't vote for a playoff system. I wonder if Ohio State had been in Michigan's situation how much his vision would of change.
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6229904 Here's an article that I really think sums up what I feel about Wisconsin not being allowed in the BCS. The National Spotlight means a lot as well when factoring this stuff in.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>What I meant by deserving teams is a team from a mid major like Central Michigan, Navy, or a Cinderella story like Rice getting some national exposure.</div> Woot! Good call on Rice. I think teams on a lower level do need something to play for like Rice. Their first bowl game since 1961!! BTW, Rice is a team worth watching just for Jarett Dillard. He's caught a TD pass in every game this season and has 20 total TDs on the year. He's got incredible abilities and is a finalist for the Biletnikoff Award with Calvin Johnson and Jeff Samardzija.
My idea has always been to copy the NFL: Just take the top BCS ranked 6 teams & you'd only have 2 additional games per 2 teams at most. <u>Orange Bowl</u> 12/26 #4 LSU vs. #5 USC <u>Sugar Bowl</u> 12/26 #3 Michigan vs. #6 Louisville #1 & #2 get a BYE <u>Rose Bowl</u> 1/1 #1 Ohio State vs. #4, #5 or #6 <u>Fiesta Bowl</u> 1/1 #2 Florida vs. #3, #4 or #5 <u>Nat. Champ Bowl</u> 1/8 Fiesta Winner vs. Rose Winner
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6229904 Here's an article that I really think sums up what I feel about Wisconsin not being allowed in the BCS. The National Spotlight means a lot as well when factoring this stuff in.</div> OMG Wisconsin controlled its own destiny. If they won all their games, they would be playing ohio state in title game right now. So quit your crying. Only team that didnt control its destiny to win title was boise state who proved even winning every game wasnt enough to get in if you play all bad teams. Which IMO is a good thing also. They did get to BCS, also a good thing. system worked again.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6229904 Here's an article that I really think sums up what I feel about Wisconsin not being allowed in the BCS. The National Spotlight means a lot as well when factoring this stuff in.</div> OMG Wisconsin controlled its own destiny. If they won all their games, they would be playing ohio state in title game right now. So quit your crying. Only team that didnt control its destiny to win title was boise state who proved even winning every game wasnt enough to get in if you play all bad teams. Which IMO is a good thing also. They did get to BCS, also a good thing. system worked again.</div> BF1 is right... for the most part. Boise demolished The Univ of Utah. The Utes aren't a bad team just back to underachieving again with their coach who I swear shares a brain w/ Wannstedt.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>OMG Wisconsin controlled its own destiny. If they won all their games, they would be playing ohio state in title game right now.</div> Yeah, I agree. As much as I wanted to see the Badgers go all the way, I can hardly be disappointed that they didn't. They had every chance to beat Michigan, but slipped up in the 2nd half. No Badger fan should be disappointed by their ranking or their bowl game. They had a great year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6229904 Here's an article that I really think sums up what I feel about Wisconsin not being allowed in the BCS. The National Spotlight means a lot as well when factoring this stuff in.</div> OMG Wisconsin controlled its own destiny. If they won all their games, they would be playing ohio state in title game right now. So quit your crying. Only team that didnt control its destiny to win title was boise state who proved even winning every game wasnt enough to get in if you play all bad teams. Which IMO is a good thing also. They did get to BCS, also a good thing. system worked again.</div> I'm not crying and I'm not complaining about the National Title. Wisconsin doesn't deserve to play for the NT and I never said they did. I think they deserve a shot at a BCS Bowl Game. The rule doesn't allow them any shot at all. If the Sugar Bowl wanted to pick them up they aren't allowed in because of the rule. The same goes for Auburn. They had a good year. Same record as LSU and ranked higher than ND. They aren't allowed in because of the rule. If you had read the article you would of seen it states nothing bout them being more deserving. It states they should have the opportunity to be picked up for a BCS Bowl which they don't because of the rule.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6229904 Here's an article that I really think sums up what I feel about Wisconsin not being allowed in the BCS. The National Spotlight means a lot as well when factoring this stuff in.</div> OMG Wisconsin controlled its own destiny. If they won all their games, they would be playing ohio state in title game right now. So quit your crying. Only team that didnt control its destiny to win title was boise state who proved even winning every game wasnt enough to get in if you play all bad teams. Which IMO is a good thing also. They did get to BCS, also a good thing. system worked again.</div> I'm not crying and I'm not complaining about the National Title. Wisconsin doesn't deserve to play for the NT and I never said they did. I think they deserve a shot at a BCS Bowl Game. The rule doesn't allow them any shot at all. If the Sugar Bowl wanted to pick them up they aren't allowed in because of the rule. The same goes for Auburn. They had a good year. Same record as LSU and ranked higher than ND. They aren't allowed in because of the rule. If you had read the article you would of seen it states nothing bout them being more deserving. It states they should have the opportunity to be picked up for a BCS Bowl which they don't because of the rule.</div> Gripe still isnt legit. You controlled where you ended up on field. You could have gone to BCS bowl game (national title, in fact) just by winning every game. Rule is good. Keeps it open to non-BCS teams. also, why would anyone want the 3rd team in a conference in top 5 bowl game?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'> OMG Wisconsin controlled its own destiny. If they won all their games, they would be playing ohio state in title game right now. So quit your crying. Only team that didnt control its destiny to win title was boise state who proved even winning every game wasnt enough to get in if you play all bad teams. Which IMO is a good thing also. They did get to BCS, also a good thing. system worked again.</div> I'm not crying and I'm not complaining about the National Title. Wisconsin doesn't deserve to play for the NT and I never said they did. I think they deserve a shot at a BCS Bowl Game. The rule doesn't allow them any shot at all. If the Sugar Bowl wanted to pick them up they aren't allowed in because of the rule. The same goes for Auburn. They had a good year. Same record as LSU and ranked higher than ND. They aren't allowed in because of the rule. If you had read the article you would of seen it states nothing bout them being more deserving. It states they should have the opportunity to be picked up for a BCS Bowl which they don't because of the rule.</div> Gripe still isnt legit. You controlled where you ended up on field. You could have gone to BCS bowl game (national title, in fact) just by winning every game. Rule is good. Keeps it open to non-BCS teams. also, why would anyone want the 3rd team in a conference in top 5 bowl game?</div> At 11-1 and 10-2 does Wisconsin and Auburn deserve the SHOT at playing in the Bowl game? Absolutely especially since teams like LSU and Notre Dame get in with 2 loses and Florida has the same record and is playing for the NT. This rule prevents any sort of shot at all. Even if the rule wasn't there it likely still would of been Notre Dame and I understand the reasoning with money but to deny Wisconsin or Auburn any sort of opportunity to get noticed by the national spotlight is unfair. People want the parity in college football that they have in the NFL. Their never going to be any with this rule. It shouldn?t be about what conference your in. If a team is good enough to play in a BCS Bowl they should be allowed to get an invite if the Bowl wants them. Another point the article made was had Florida lost to Arkansas they would be playing Wisconsin in the Capital One Bowl because of the rule. Florida actually BEAT LSU this year and finished with the same record but because of the BCS and the rules they would be denied a BCS Bowl game.
personally, i like College Basketballs March Madness. 12 teams out of 150? just isnt right, especially because Tie breakers would be insane, record wise. too many teams would sit out with 1 or 2 losses because they didnt have a good total net point
All you scenarios of teams getting screwed are where a team LOSES! Not where they got unfairly jobbed. The bottom line is wisconsin was just lucky they didnt play OSU or they would have 2nd loss. If wisconsins conference wasnt screwed up so that 2 teams could go undefeated and never play, then this would be non-issue, you would have made title game or michigan would have and it could be settled on field. Blame your conference not the BCS. BCS has worked every year except 1. auburn is the only team to ever get screwed. The rules are fine, its just so much whining about this and that. Only if you went undefeated vs legit schedule do you have any complaint of any merit ever.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>All you scenarios of teams getting screwed are where a team LOSES! Not where they got unfairly jobbed. The bottom line is wisconsin was just lucky they didnt play OSU or they would have 2nd loss. If wisconsins conference wasnt screwed up so that 2 teams could go undefeated and never play, then this would be non-issue, you would have made title game or michigan would have and it could be settled on field. Blame your conference not the BCS. BCS has worked every year except 1. auburn is the only team to ever get screwed. The rules are fine, its just so much whining about this and that. Only if you went undefeated vs legit schedule do you have any complaint of any merit ever.</div> Notre Dame has 2 loses which are more than Wisconsin. They played a very similar schedule as Wisconsin. Are they deserving of a BCS Bowl? Since Wisconsin obviously isn't by your logic since they lost one game then ND can't be with 2 loses. Same goes for LSU even though they lost as well twice. The NT should be Boise State vs. Ohio State since they are the only unbeaten teams in Division 1 College Football. The absolute FACT is Wisconsin went 11-1. Do they deserve a BCS Bowl. Maybe, Maybe not. Notre Dame went 10-2. Do they Deserve a BCS Bowl? Maybe, Maybe not. What we do know is ND gets the opportunity to be allowed to play in one and Wisconsin doesn't. That's not fair to the university of Wisconsin and it's not fair to the players at the school. You can substitute Wisconsin with Auburn and ND with Oregon for all I care. The rule is doing more damage than good and an 11-1 Wisconsin team deserves the opportunity for the Sugar Bowl committee to select them if they desire to do so.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>All you scenarios of teams getting screwed are where a team LOSES! Not where they got unfairly jobbed. The bottom line is wisconsin was just lucky they didnt play OSU or they would have 2nd loss. If wisconsins conference wasnt screwed up so that 2 teams could go undefeated and never play, then this would be non-issue, you would have made title game or michigan would have and it could be settled on field. Blame your conference not the BCS. BCS has worked every year except 1. auburn is the only team to ever get screwed. The rules are fine, its just so much whining about this and that. Only if you went undefeated vs legit schedule do you have any complaint of any merit ever.</div> How can you say that it worked? Why is Florida more deserving than Michigan to play for the NC? If Florida would have won against Auburn then I would understand but they have identical records and have similiar strength of schedules... We beat our lone common opponent by 9 more points than what Florida did... Michigan's lose was AT their arch rivals who happen to be the only one that people are sure should be playing for the NC by 3 points, Florida's was at a non rival, non BCS bowl team by 10 pts... After Michigan lost they were still looked at as the #2 team in america by everyone, then slipped 2 consecutive weeks without stepping on to the field... Why did Florida all of a sudden jump Michigan? Why not the weeks before? The lone reason is because the pollsters thought that USC was going to beat UCLA and it wouldn't have mattered so they went with what they saw on the field... Then the unthinkable happened and USC lost... Then they found themselves in a bind and they simply took the easy way out... The easy way is seldom the right way... The purpose of the BCS is to put the 2 best teams in the Nation on the field to play for a NC and that isn't the case... I believe it, Vegas believes it (U of M would be favored by 6 points against the Gators), most others believe it... Now once the game is played we can come back to this thread and we can see how each team stacked up against their second common opponent... Care for a bet? I'll take OSU giving up 3, exactly what U of M lost by... Any takers?
Oh and Porky I like your scenario... I came up with a 16 team one myself but it didn't include the no rankings until week 6... I like that and think I'll steal it... When I get time I'll put mine up...
