So Does Norv Turner Get Fired Now?

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  1. Shapecity

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    1st half Chargers ran left everytime they wanted to gain yards and move the sticks. 2nd half they completely abandoned running to the leftside.</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

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    I find it hilarious that a Raider fan thinks they have weight to throw their team around in here. When was the last time the Raiders were respectable? They've got a bright future, but c'mon...you are already shit talking?</p>

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    We are in the Chargers forum, so I will keep the conversation all about the Chargers. No, it doesn't take 6 regular seaon games for a successful team (14-2) to figure out how to work with each other. It's shameful.</p>

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    How is it shameful when you've got a brand new defensive coordinator and a brand new head coach? It takes time to mesh together and unify to win games. Why do you think most championship teams win? They've got the experience under one group of coaches for a couple of seasons. The Chargers shook everything up this off-season, so it is a joke to expect them to replicate their success of last year, this year from the start.</p>

    It also doesn't help that they didn't fix their main need,a god damn WR.</p>

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shapecity)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    1st half Chargers ran left everytime they wanted to gain yards and move the sticks. 2nd half they completely abandoned running to the leftside.</p>

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    They completely abandoned running all together. It was a damn joke. Norv's head on a stick!</p>
     
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    Is it too early to call AJ Smith the Jerry Krause of the NFL? After all organizations win championships </p>
     
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    I hate the fact you guys are quick to go for Norv like that but I just get tired of hearing words like "Fire Norv Turner Damnit!" or "We Made a Mistake" or "I'm hoping on the Patriots bandwagon!" I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's not Turner's fault. The Chargers should be relying on LT and the D. Who gives a (sorry in advance but I'm super furious) fuck about Rivers, it's obvious that he sucks and isn't that good if the running game isn't working and has NO RECIEVERS other than Gates. And what about Shawne Merriman? I guess the lights out dance is only for when the game is over because no one wants to see his steroidy face again. And yes, I know there are injuries and yes it does affect the team, but hey, what's a good team if you don't have depth when you need it? RANT OVER!!!</p>
     
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    I've been living in the greater DC area since 1980. Been a Raider fan since 1963. I have seen enough of Norv Turner already man, where's the friggin' OFF button ?</p>

    Here's how it is. If the players begin to shout "the boat is sinking, we're all gonna die", Marty would say "shut up , sit down and start bailing".</p>

    Norv would say "Oh God, you're right, we're all gonna die" !</p>

    This guy is no Head Coach. Note to 29 other NFL teams...STOP hiring this idiot.</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MKIV_Supra)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    I hate the fact you guys are quick to go for Norv like that but I just get tired of hearing words like "Fire Norv Turner Damnit!" or "We Made a Mistake" or "I'm hoping on the Patriots bandwagon!" I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's not Turner's fault. The Chargers should be relying on LT and the D. Who gives a (sorry in advance but I'm super furious) fuck about Rivers, it's obvious that he sucks and isn't that good if the running game isn't working and has NO RECIEVERS other than Gates. And what about Shawne Merriman? I guess the lights out dance is only for when the game is over because no one wants to see his steroidy face again. And yes, I know there are injuries and yes it does affect the team, but hey, what's a good team if you don't have depth when you need it? RANT OVER!!!</p>

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    What about Merriman? He's got 20 tackles, 3 sacks, and a forced fumble. Our LB's are fine. Our front 3 aren't getting any push, and our CB's are terrible...nothing wrong with the LB core. And give the steroids thing a rest, even the NFL stood up for him by making it public that he was tested 20 times and only failed one test last year.</p>

    It's not Turner's fault? Turn on the damn damn game and watch. He is an absolute terrible coach. He doesn't have passion or desire to win, he has the same stupid fucking look on his face whether the Chargers are up, down, get an interception, throw an interception. He can't coach, plain and simple. He showed that Sunday when he abandoned the running game in the second half.</p>

    Who gives a fuck about Rivers? How stupid are you. He had a pro bowl season last year, he made the damn pro bowl. He is a major part of that offense and when he struggles, teams know that the Chargers are going to feed LT, so they'll stack 8-9 men in the box and stop LT. Rivers is a major reason why this team is struggling and until he gets back on track, they're going to continue to struggle.</p>

    Don't come in here and post nonsense, watch some god damn game highlights or something.</p>
     
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    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in">No offense, but to say this horrible start for the Chargers is not Norv Turner&rsquo;s fault is just ridiculous. Coaches are supposed to motivate the team and keep everyone&rsquo;s heads straight. When things go wrong, coaches are supposed to be the leaders that step in and calm down the players. All of which, Norv Turner lacks.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Turner has been a failure in every single one of his coaching stints, I&rsquo;m just amazed at how the Chargers felt he would be the answer for this team. Unless the Chargers somehow miraculously turn the season over, Turner will be known as the guy who single handedly destroyed a Super Bowl contender. The Chargers are a talented team. They rank up there with the Patriots and the Colts in the terms of talent. The pieces are there, they just haven&rsquo;t put it all together, and I doubt they will with Turner as coach. Now obviously not every single thing that has gone wrong is Turner&rsquo;s fault, but the majority of it is.</p>
     
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    To paraphrase Keith Olberman, "AJ Smith fired Marty for his playoff record. Norv Turner won't have the chance to win or lose games in the playoffs for the Chargers."</p>

    I still believe we'll easily in the AFC West, but come play off time...unless we get things going, forget about winning anything. One and done for Norv? Please God. I'd love to lure Bill Cowher out of retirement.</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MKIV_Supra)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    I hate the fact you guys are quick to go for Norv like that but I just get tired of hearing words like "Fire Norv Turner Damnit!" or "We Made a Mistake" or "I'm hoping on the Patriots bandwagon!" I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's not Turner's fault. The Chargers should be relying on LT and the D. Who gives a (sorry in advance but I'm super furious) fuck about Rivers, it's obvious that he sucks and isn't that good if the running game isn't working and has NO RECIEVERS other than Gates. And what about Shawne Merriman? I guess the lights out dance is only for when the game is over because no one wants to see his steroidy face again. And yes, I know there are injuries and yes it does affect the team, but hey, what's a good team if you don't have depth when you need it? RANT OVER!!!</p>

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    This doesn't make any sense. On the one hand, you think the Chargers should be relying on the running game and then you don't think we should fault the coach for inexplicably going away from Tomlinson over and over again.</p>

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mamba)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    What about Merriman? He's got 20 tackles, 3 sacks, and a forced fumble. Our LB's are fine. Our front 3 aren't getting any push, and our CB's are terrible...nothing wrong with the LB core. And give the steroids thing a rest, even the NFL stood up for him by making it public that he was tested 20 times and only failed one test last year.</p>

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    Merriam is not impressing anyone. For pete's sake, what the hell is your point? He's not high in any of those categories! Derek Johnson from the Chiefs is doing even better than Merriman, 27 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 forced fumbe, AND 1 interception. The Chiefs, like the Chargers, are going nowhere in the playoffs this year. The steroids thing will get NO rest! Not from here on out. All of Merriman's accomplishments his rookie year where completed under the influence of that drug.</p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mamba)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    It's not Turner's fault? Turn on the damn damn game and watch. He is an absolute terrible coach. He doesn't have passion or desire to win, he has the same stupid fucking look on his face whether the Chargers are up, down, get an interception, throw an interception. He can't coach, plain and simple. He showed that Sunday when he abandoned the running game in the second half.</p>

    Who gives a fuck about Rivers? How stupid are you. He had a pro bowl season last year, he made the damn pro bowl. He is a major part of that offense and when he struggles, teams know that the Chargers are going to feed LT, so they'll stack 8-9 men in the box and stop LT. Rivers is a major reason why this team is struggling and until he gets back on track, they're going to continue to struggle.</p>

    Don't come in here and post nonsense, watch some god damn game highlights or something.</p>

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    Okay, you need your moderator privledges revoked at the earliest. You are way out of control with the personal attacks. I have copied your post and sent it in for review.</p>

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  12. MKIV_Supra

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mamba)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MKIV_Supra)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    I hate the fact you guys are quick to go for Norv like that but I just get tired of hearing words like "Fire Norv Turner Damnit!" or "We Made a Mistake" or "I'm hoping on the Patriots bandwagon!" I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's not Turner's fault. The Chargers should be relying on LT and the D. Who gives a (sorry in advance but I'm super furious) fuck about Rivers, it's obvious that he sucks and isn't that good if the running game isn't working and has NO RECIEVERS other than Gates. And what about Shawne Merriman? I guess the lights out dance is only for when the game is over because no one wants to see his steroidy face again. And yes, I know there are injuries and yes it does affect the team, but hey, what's a good team if you don't have depth when you need it? RANT OVER!!!</p>

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    What about Merriman? He's got 20 tackles, 3 sacks, and a forced fumble. Our LB's are fine. Our front 3 aren't getting any push, and our CB's are terrible...nothing wrong with the LB core. And give the steroids thing a rest, even the NFL stood up for him by making it public that he was tested 20 times and only failed one test last year.</p>

    It's not Turner's fault? Turn on the damn damn game and watch. He is an absolute terrible coach. He doesn't have passion or desire to win, he has the same stupid fucking look on his face whether the Chargers are up, down, get an interception, throw an interception. He can't coach, plain and simple. He showed that Sunday when he abandoned the running game in the second half.</p>

    Who gives a fuck about Rivers? How stupid are you. He had a pro bowl season last year, he made the damn pro bowl. He is a major part of that offense and when he struggles, teams know that the Chargers are going to feed LT, so they'll stack 8-9 men in the box and stop LT. Rivers is a major reason why this team is struggling and until he gets back on track, they're going to continue to struggle.</p>

    Don't come in here and post nonsense, watch some god damn game highlights or something.</p>

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    True that Merriman has some decent numbers but not the type of numbers that he is "capable" of and what others have been expecting him to have. I would have thought that he would be more explosive but I haven't heard much about him. The steroids, there will be no end to it since it will follow him for the rest of his career. Heck, it followed him into the NFL when he was being questioned during his college years (I THINK! Not sure about it.) And the CB's aren't the only ones in trouble, what about the whole secondary. Dwayne Bowe got through the blown cover 2 and took it to the house. Another thing, I happen to watch the game if you don't mind me saying so. Living in the SD area, when I'm not watching the Ravens game, I sometimes tune in their games so I'll be informed when I get into discussions like these at school. They had a pretty good game plan up until the second half where everything went downhill.</p>

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    Regarding Rivers, he is only a 2nd year starter. He didn't really have to do much other than pass it to either LT or Gates. They also didn't let him throw the ball much under the Schottenheimer offense which featured LT basically. How do you think he had the MVP season? So what if he made the pro bowl, it was the fans who made the picks right? Last time I checked, there could be some bias in that polling with him being more popular because of the Chargers record. Yes, teams do know they are going to give the ball to LT. But check this out, they've known this (oh wait, I can't believe I'm goign to say this but it just feels so good) for... throughout... his entire career!!! Oh come on, you have LT in the backfield, what else are you supposed to do. They've done the same thing his whole entire career with Brees, Rivers, Leaf (I think...) under center. Why? Not because of the QB's or the lack of reciever skills but because he's LT. The only reason he isn't putting great numbers is because of the offensive line. Have you seen these guys run block? Huge difference since last year and this year so far. Look at some of the games again and you'll agree with me.</p>

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    I also think that you aren't showing alot of courtesy towards a fellow member on the board. I know how you feel about the Chargers being in turmoil and emotions run high but you need to have self discipline especially as a moderator. Plus, this is what forums are for! I don't mind the cussing since I do it all the time even though it gets censored on the forums sadly but when you say I'm stupid, well... That's going a bit too far. And about watching highlights, quite frankly, I wouldn't call myself a football fan without watching some of these. But then again, the Chargers don't really have much of them other than for the other team scoring on them.</p>
     
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    To add on, you did state that in your signature, Philip Rivers is the new Ryan Leaf... enough said. And believe me, I'll keep refreshing my arguement every week until someone stops posting topics about why the Chargers are losing because of Norv Turner, which is true but not to the extent that he needs to be fired. Just face it, choking is a naturalentity of the Chargers until AJ is gone.</p>
     
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    Fire Shannahan. Just kidding.</p>

    San Diego Chargers finally got it together today and go a much needed win. This puts the Chargers right back in the race for a division title with KC losing, Oakland had a bye week, and Denver drops another one.]</p>

    Standings will be:</p>

    Raiders 2-2
    Broncos 2-3
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    Chargers 2-3</p>
     
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    41-3 good night Denver. This was the biggest margin of defeat for the Broncos at home in the history of their franchise.</p>
     
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    Just because they done good in one game doesn't mean it will stay that way. Anything can happen. Next thing you know, they might go for another 3 straight losses again. NOTHING IS FOR SURE IN THE NFL!!! Great game though, I didn't get to see much since I was really watching the Ravens game. I heard it became a snooze by halftime though when the Broncos were getting destroyed.</p>
     

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