Here are the 17 Finalists: http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/story.jsp?story_id=2285 If I had to vote, I'd vote for: Richard Dent Bruce Matthews Art Monk Derrick Thomas Paul Tagliabue I would probably vote for Ray Guy over Tagliabue, but what Paul did for the NFL in the past 17 years as commish is nothing short of amazing.
Thurman Thomas is on the edge for me. I'd like to see him in though...Yeah...I'd vote for him too. You add his total yardage numbers up and it's pretty impressive.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cubuffsman78)</div><div class='quotemain'>Thurman Thomas is on the edge for me. I'd like to see him in though...Yeah...I'd vote for him too. You add his total yardage numbers up and it's pretty impressive.</div> I always thought he carried those Bills teams and is what made that offense so successful. Even though they never won a Super Bowl. Getting to one alone is very difficult. 4 in a row is amazing.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cubuffsman78)</div><div class='quotemain'>Thurman Thomas is on the edge for me. I'd like to see him in though...Yeah...I'd vote for him too. You add his total yardage numbers up and it's pretty impressive.</div> I always thought he carried those Bills teams and is what made that offense so successful. Even though they never won a Super Bowl. Getting to one alone is very difficult. 4 in a row is amazing.</div> I always liked him. Emmitt called him the best running back in the league after the Cowboys first Super Bowl win. Most people forget that Thomas was good enough to keep Barry Sanders on the bench at Oklahoma St. I know that doesn't count towards his NFL eligibility, but still that's quite an honor.
Got to put thurman thomas in. 16k yards from scrimmage? I dont understand how he got to 2nd ballot. Plus, he has more receptions than lynn swann.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Plus, he has more receptions than lynn swann.</div> Good Lord! You're right! He also led the NFL in yards from scrimmage a record four times.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Plus, he has more receptions than lynn swann.</div> Good Lord! You're right! He also led the NFL in yards from scrimmage a record four times.</div> Yeah, like i said, the whole process lost my faith when he got passed on first ballot. FYI he has almost 40% more catches than swan!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Plus, he has more receptions than lynn swann.</div> Good Lord! You're right! He also led the NFL in yards from scrimmage a record four times.</div> Yeah, like i said, the whole process lost my faith when he got passed on first ballot. FYI he has almost 40% more catches than swan!</div> Not that it's right or wrong, but do you suppose it has anything to do with how much hardware Swan has on his hand vs. Thomas?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'> Good Lord! You're right! He also led the NFL in yards from scrimmage a record four times.</div> Yeah, like i said, the whole process lost my faith when he got passed on first ballot. FYI he has almost 40% more catches than swan!</div> Not that it's right or wrong, but do you suppose it has anything to do with how much hardware Swan has on his hand vs. Thomas?</div> Right, i knew that was coming. Its the HOF. championship not required for the greatest players of all time. btw, being one of 5 best players on the 2nd best team in the league 4 times is pretty damn impressive. Swann getting in cuz he team won rings is ridiculous. btw we are comparing his recieving #s to those of a rb, and he is stacking up. I think that says it all.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'> Good Lord! You're right! He also led the NFL in yards from scrimmage a record four times.</div> Yeah, like i said, the whole process lost my faith when he got passed on first ballot. FYI he has almost 40% more catches than swan!</div> Not that it's right or wrong, but do you suppose it has anything to do with how much hardware Swan has on his hand vs. Thomas?</div> Swann is in more because of the incredible catches he made during those Super Bowls. Now I don't think that's an excuse for him to get in, but that's what he's remembered for. Also, he had very good numbers for WRs of the time. He got in before John Stallworth though despite Stallworth being more productive over his career. Swann's in for the same reason that Joe Namath is in...he did something that is one of the most memorable events in NFL history. Namath threw a ton more INTs than he did TDs. I think he only had like 3 or 4 seasons where he threw more TDs than INTs in that season. He's the worst QB in the Hall of Fame in my opinion. But he's in because he made what seemed to be an outrageous prediction and he saved the playing of the Super Bowl. There was considerations that the Super Bowl would cease to be if the Jets got blown out by Baltimore in that game. However, Namath was the MVP despite not accounting for a single point in the game. The Jets defense won that game for him. That rant aside...I respect the NFL Hall of Fame more than any of the others, especially baseball's. Baseball's hall of fame is ridiculous. There will always be mistakes in voting players into the hall. I really hope that Thurman gets into the Hall. Really he'll be the first of a modern dual threat RB type that will be put into the Hall. His election will pave the way for Marshall Faulk's election into the Hall in a few years.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cubuffsman78)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'> Yeah, like i said, the whole process lost my faith when he got passed on first ballot. FYI he has almost 40% more catches than swan!</div> Not that it's right or wrong, but do you suppose it has anything to do with how much hardware Swan has on his hand vs. Thomas?</div> Swann is in more because of the incredible catches he made during those Super Bowls. Now I don't think that's an excuse for him to get in, but that's what he's remembered for. Also, he had very good numbers for WRs of the time. He got in before John Stallworth though despite Stallworth being more productive over his career. Swann's in for the same reason that Joe Namath is in...he did something that is one of the most memorable events in NFL history. Namath threw a ton more INTs than he did TDs. I think he only had like 3 or 4 seasons where he threw more TDs than INTs in that season. He's the worst QB in the Hall of Fame in my opinion. But he's in because he made what seemed to be an outrageous prediction and he saved the playing of the Super Bowl. There was considerations that the Super Bowl would cease to be if the Jets got blown out by Baltimore in that game. However, Namath was the MVP despite not accounting for a single point in the game. The Jets defense won that game for him. That rant aside...I respect the NFL Hall of Fame more than any of the others, especially baseball's. Baseball's hall of fame is ridiculous. There will always be mistakes in voting players into the hall. I really hope that Thurman gets into the Hall. Really he'll be the first of a modern dual threat RB type that will be put into the Hall. His election will pave the way for Marshall Faulk's election into the Hall in a few years.</div> Swann's #s actually were pretty horrible for his era. If i am not mistaken, he didnt finish in top 10 in league once. He makes being in the HOF less special.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Swann's #s actually were pretty horrible for his era. If i am not mistaken, he didnt finish in top 10 in league once. He makes being in the HOF less special.</div> He did finish in the top ten in some categories, but never recorded a 1000 yard season. Receptions: 1977-7th, 1978-7th Receiving yards: 1975-8th, 1977-4th, 1978-7th Receiving TDs: 1975-1st, 1977-6th, 1978-2nd Rush/Receive TDs: 1975-7th, 1978-5th He made the Pro Bowl 3 times (1975/1977/1978) By way of comparison, though, Sterling Sharpe shattered all of his numbers while playing in three fewer games...Swann had 115 career games, Sharpe had 112. Sterling had: 595 receptions, to Swann's 336 8134 yards, to Swann's 5462 65 TDs to Swann's 51 Sharpe made 5 Pro Bowls to Swann's three while leading the league in receptions three times, yardage once and receiving TDs twice. No one's ever once come close to mentioning Sterling Sharpe as a Hall of Famer (other than me). In Swann's defense, though, he's a much better sideline reporter and commentator than Sterling (or Shannon) will ever be. So maybe he should be in the BROADCASTING hall of fame...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Swann's #s actually were pretty horrible for his era. If i am not mistaken, he didnt finish in top 10 in league once. He makes being in the HOF less special.</div> He did finish in the top ten in some categories, but never recorded a 1000 yard season. Receptions: 1977-7th, 1978-7th Receiving yards: 1975-8th, 1977-4th, 1978-7th Receiving TDs: 1975-1st, 1977-6th, 1978-2nd Rush/Receive TDs: 1975-7th, 1978-5th He made the Pro Bowl 3 times (1975/1977/1978) By way of comparison, though, Sterling Sharpe shattered all of his numbers while playing in three fewer games...Swann had 115 career games, Sharpe had 112. Sterling had: 595 receptions, to Swann's 336 8134 yards, to Swann's 5462 65 TDs to Swann's 51 Sharpe made 5 Pro Bowls to Swann's three while leading the league in receptions three times, yardage once and receiving TDs twice. No one's ever once come close to mentioning Sterling Sharpe as a Hall of Famer (other than me). In Swann's defense, though, he's a much better sideline reporter and commentator than Sterling (or Shannon) will ever be. So maybe he should be in the BROADCASTING hall of fame...</div> If only finishing 4th one time is a HOFer, and 3 pro bowls, we better open the gates and let everyone in. I mean thats not even close to impressive.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>If only finishing 4th one time is a HOFer, and 3 pro bowls, we better open the gates and let everyone in. I mean thats not even close to impressive.</div> Another interesting comparison to run is Joe Namath vs. Ken Anderson. It's not even funny...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>If only finishing 4th one time is a HOFer, and 3 pro bowls, we better open the gates and let everyone in. I mean thats not even close to impressive.</div> Another interesting comparison to run is Joe Namath vs. Ken Anderson. It's not even funny...</div> I've had an extensive argument with a Jets fan about Joe Namath being the most overrated QB in the history of the game. It didn't matter how much proof I could come up with, it was impossible to convince him that Joe wasn't the greatest thing since sliced bread.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cubuffsman78)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>If only finishing 4th one time is a HOFer, and 3 pro bowls, we better open the gates and let everyone in. I mean thats not even close to impressive.</div> Another interesting comparison to run is Joe Namath vs. Ken Anderson. It's not even funny...</div> I've had an extensive argument with a Jets fan about Joe Namath being the most overrated QB in the history of the game. It didn't matter how much proof I could come up with, it was impossible to convince him that Joe wasn't the greatest thing since sliced bread.</div> I blame the liberal media.
