<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Tough Cuts Loom<span style="font-style: italic;"> Oct 11</span> - The Celtics will have some difficult decisions when they make cuts, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll keep the maximum of 15. With the C's in the luxury tax range, they'll have to pay an extra dollar for every one they're over the mark. That means the salaries of players are essentially doubled. It's fair to say that Estaban Batista, Dahntay Jones, Jackie Manuel and Brandon Wallace are on the bubble.</p> "I think we have 17 NBA players on our roster right now," said Danny Ainge, who added that there is no present timetable for cuts. "There are a lot of factors that will go into it. It's just need right now. We're trying to figure out what we need to have our best season this year." -- <font color="#000000">Boston Herald</font> other news ... With all of the photo shoots and media attention, it's a wonder Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett found time to go to Europe and play baskeball. The Celtics new dream trio looms large on the cover of the November issue of Sports Illustrated for Kids. There they are again on the cover of the Improper Bostonian, and fronting last Sunday's Boston Globe magazine. And don't be surprised if they also pop up in coming issues of ESPN The Magazine and Sports Illustrated. -- <font color="#000000">Boston Herald</font> <font color="#006600">Edited to fix formatting - Premier</font></div></p> </p>
It will probably be Manuel and Wallace that get cut.</p> I like Batista and Jones, they have more experience.</p>
Manuel is a clear-cut goner. Luckily, he was drafted in the NBDL draft this summer, so he'll still have a home.</p> I would rather keep Brandon Wallace than Dahntay Jones. Jones is more experienced and is probably the better basketball player as of right now, but now that this team is going to have a stable rotation of 9-10 guys, neither one of them is going to play to begin with. So, why not take a flyer on Brandon Wallace, who is a long/athletic 3 who can defend some of the bigger wings in the league, and throw him down in the D-League so he can develop. He has solid potential, and while I'm not going to get overly excited about an undrafted rookie, I think he's worth taking a flyer on. It's a low-risk, high reward situation if he pans out. If he doesn't big deal... Dahntay doesn't fit this team anyway. When it really comes down to it, he's a less talented Tony Allen. Keep Wallace, send him down to Utah, and stash away what could be a versatile defender to have in the future.</p> There is no reason why Batista shouldn't make this team. Scot Pollard is a walking injury. We need that insurance. Batista is a wide-body who will scrap for rebounds, and he's a guy you can throw in at the 5-spot if and when Pollard is on the sidelines in street clothes.</p>
I say cut Manuel and Wallace. Neither will ever contribute significantly anyway, so why not.</p> I could really care less that Wallace can defend a few 3s. Okay, that's lovely, but so could a guy like Justin Reed, who IMO is pretty much what Wallace is. No sense in keeping him around. </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lanteri)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I say cut Manuel and Wallace. Neither will ever contribute significantly anyway, so why not.</p> I could really care less that Wallace can defend a few 3s. Okay, that's lovely, but so could a guy like Justin Reed, who IMO is pretty much what Wallace is. No sense in keeping him around. </p> </div></p> So instead of keeping somebody who contributes what we don't have, you'd like to keep a guy (Jones) who duplicates what we ALREADY have?</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lanteri)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I say cut Manuel and Wallace. Neither will ever contribute significantly anyway, so why not.</p> I could really care less that Wallace can defend a few 3s. Okay, that's lovely, but so could a guy like Justin Reed, who IMO is pretty much what Wallace is. No sense in keeping him around. </p> </div></p> So instead of keeping somebody who contributes what we don't have, you'd like to keep a guy (Jones) who duplicates what we ALREADY have?</p> </p> </div></p> Well considering TA is quite injury prone you can't guarantee that he'll make it through the season. Never mind the fact that Dahntay knows his role a little better than TA, imo. Tony still tries to do way too much. I know it's just preseason, but it's quite ugly watching him around on offense like a chicken with his head cut off.</p> </p>
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketb...ticleid=1038346</p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'></p> “(Jones is) close to making the team. He’s right on the line,” Rivers said. “It’s not going to come down to if he’s one of the better guys in the group. It’s going to be what we need, and based on that, who we want to keep.”</p> Rivers has no doubt Jones will play for some NBA team this season. At the moment, the coach just isn’t sure if Jones’ skills are precisely what the Celtics need.</p> </div></p> Exactly what I've been saying. If Jones makes this team, then so be it, but I'd rather take a flyer on a 15th man who could potentially fill a need for us in the future, rather than another version of Tony Allen.</p> http://blogs.metrowestdailynews.com/celtics/?p=561</p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'></p> “He’s doing all right,” Rivers said of Batista. “He’s still learning. I don’t know how ready he is, honestly.”</p> </div></p> OK... but if Jones and/or Wallace makes this team, and Batista doesn't, I'll be pissed.</p>
Does it really matter who'll warm up the bench?The Celtics are done, the only thing they're picking up now is scrub time players.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (employee #5)</div><div class='quotemain'>Does it really matter who'll warm up the bench? The Celtics are done, the only thing they're picking up now is scrub time players.</div></p> Yes, it does matter. It's not just about the top 9 or 10. What happens if one of those guys go down with an injury? What if a couple guys are in foul trouble? You need insurance, and you need guys that can fill a void. With Scot Pollard being so injury plagued over the past few seasons, how can you not care if Batista is cut or not? We need him. I'll agree that Jones/Wallace is a matter of personal preference, but I don't understand why you don't care one bit about the final couple spots on the roster. It does matter.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32)</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (employee #5)</div><div class='quotemain'>Does it really matter who'll warm up the bench? The Celtics are done, the only thing they're picking up now is scrub time players.</div></p> Yes, it does matter. It's not just about the top 9 or 10. What happens if one of those guys go down with an injury? What if a couple guys are in foul trouble? You need insurance, and you need guys that can fill a void. With Scot Pollard being so injury plagued over the past few seasons, how can you not care if Batista is cut or not? We need him. I'll agree that Jones/Wallace is a matter of personal preference, but I don't understand why you don't care one bit about the final couple spots on the roster. It does matter.</p> </p></div> Thisteamwon'tbethesameteamofthepastfewyears.It'llhavearotation.There'sgoingtobe9or10playersplayingandif2/3godown,thenyoujustgiveupontheseasonasnoteamwouldbeabletoreplacetheirproduction.You have your starters, you have your bench, the battle for the scrubs is not that important. The Celtics feel the same way if they're only ending up with 14 players instead of 15 when the season starts.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (employee #5)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (employee #5)</div><div class='quotemain'>Does it really matter who'll warm up the bench? The Celtics are done, the only thing they're picking up now is scrub time players.</div></p> Yes, it does matter. It's not just about the top 9 or 10. What happens if one of those guys go down with an injury? What if a couple guys are in foul trouble? You need insurance, and you need guys that can fill a void. With Scot Pollard being so injury plagued over the past few seasons, how can you not care if Batista is cut or not? We need him. I'll agree that Jones/Wallace is a matter of personal preference, but I don't understand why you don't care one bit about the final couple spots on the roster. It does matter.</p> </p> </div></p> Thisteamwon'tbethesameteamofthepastfewyears.It'llhavearotation.There'sgoingtobe9or10playersplayingandif2/3godown,thenyoujustgiveupontheseasonasnoteamwouldbeabletoreplacetheirproduction. You have your starters, you have your bench, the battle for the scrubs is not that important. The Celtics feel the same way if they're only ending up with 14 players instead of 15 when the season starts.</p> </div></p> Let's say 2 guys get hurt out of that 9 or 10-man rotation. You want somebody to be able and fill that role. Batista fills the center role as a banger off the bench better than our 6'8'' (on a good day) PF's in Leon Powe and Glen Davis. Garnett doesn't want to play a lot of center, and Perk is foul prone. I just would have liked a 3rd center, with our 2nd center being hurt so often and our starting center being foul prone in his own right.</p> </p>
[quote name='CelticBalla32'] [quote name='employee #5'][quote name='CelticBalla32']</p> [quote name='employee #5']Does it really matter who'll warm up the bench? The Celtics are done, the only thing they're picking up now is scrub time players.[/QUOTE]</p> Yes, it does matter. It's not just about the top 9 or 10. What happens if one of those guys go down with an injury? What if a couple guys are in foul trouble? You need insurance, and you need guys that can fill a void. With Scot Pollard being so injury plagued over the past few seasons, how can you not care if Batista is cut or not? We need him. I'll agree that Jones/Wallace is a matter of personal preference, but I don't understand why you don't care one bit about the final couple spots on the roster. It does matter.</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> Thisteamwon'tbethesameteamofthepastfewyears.It'llhavearotation.There'sgoingtobe9or10playersplayingandif2/3godown,thenyoujustgiveupontheseasonasnoteamwouldbeabletoreplacetheirproduction. You have your starters, you have your bench, the battle for the scrubs is not that important. The Celtics feel the same way if they're only ending up with 14 players instead of 15 when the season starts.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> Let's say 2 guys get hurt out of that 9 or 10-man rotation. You want somebody to be able and fill that role. Batista fills the center role as a banger off the bench better than our 6'8'' (on a good day) PF's in Leon Powe and Glen Davis. Garnett doesn't want to play a lot of center, and Perk is foul prone. I just would have liked a 3rd center, with our 2nd center being hurt so often and our starting center being foul prone in his own right.</p> </p>[/QUOTE] Yes,Iunderstandthata3rdcentertostarttheseasonwouldbenice,butIstilldon'tconsiderthisanythingmajor.Thingis,BatistawouldhavejustbeenusedasabigbodytocoverupuntilScotcomesback.For a very limited amount of time too. OncePollardisback,Batistawouldendupin the Doc House even if he doesn't deserve to be.Actually, to tell you the truth, I don't expect much from Pollard, nevermind Batista.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Thingis,BatistawouldhavejustbeenusedasabigbodytocoverupuntilScotcomesback.For a very limited amount of time too. OncePollardisback</p> </div></p> That is exactly my point. Now, when Scot is out, we don't have a guy like Batista to throw in at the 5 to cover up. We will be forced to move KG to center more than we should, and way more than he wants to, and continue Doc's unsuccessful line of small ball. I understand going small in spurts would greatly benefit this team, but with the amount of time Pollard is going to miss, another banger is needed. You hit it on the head, Batista would only be used to cover up. My point is that we don't have a cover-up guy anymore.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32)</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'> Thingis,BatistawouldhavejustbeenusedasabigbodytocoverupuntilScotcomesback.For a very limited amount of time too. OncePollardisback</p> </div></p> That is exactly my point. Now, when Scot is out, we don't have a guy like Batista to throw in at the 5 to cover up. We will be forced to move KG to center more than we should, and way more than he wants to, and continue Doc's unsuccessful line of small ball. I understand going small in spurts would greatly benefit this team, but with the amount of time Pollard is going to miss, another banger is needed. You hit it on the head, Batista would only be used to cover up. My point is that we don't have a cover-up guy anymore.</p> </p></div> Istilldon'tbelievewe'llmissaguythatwouldhaveonlyplayed10games.I'dratherdowngrade(KG-Pierce-Allen-Allen-Rondo)ifneededthangowithjustaspaceholder.Itwon'tbeforalongtime.</p>
